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« Reply #30 on: June 06, 2004, 07:37:34 AM »

This Charlie Chan package includes those Chans Toler made for Monogram which were his last films before his death and before Roland Winters took over the last few films in the series.

I hope the boxed set does well enough to convince Fox to do something with the QUALITY Chan films it owns. Right now, the studio is stupidly taking some kind of PC moral high ground, but if the MGM Chans make money, I suspect Fox's greed will outweigh its misguided sense of right-and-wrong.
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« Reply #31 on: June 06, 2004, 07:50:55 AM »

Good morning, Dear Readers!  It'll be a busy day for me today.  This morning I have a synagogue-related function out in Brentwood.  From there I will make my way downtown to the Walt Disney Concert Hall for an afternoon performance by the Los Angeles Philharmonic of the Berlioz Requiem, conducted by Esa-Pekka Salonen.  This evening, of course, I shall be ensconced in front of my television for the Tony Awards.  
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« Reply #32 on: June 06, 2004, 07:56:23 AM »

Another memorable Tony moment:

Michael Jeter and Brent Barrett (my first time seeing either of them) doing "We'll Take a Glass Together" in the GRAND HOTEL excerpt. After I saw it on TV, I booked tickets and a flight and saw it, CITY OF ANGELS, and other shows that December. All of the original casts were still with the shows, and overall was one of the best trips to NYC ever to see shows.
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« Reply #33 on: June 06, 2004, 07:56:40 AM »

No matter how good the actual broadcast is tonight, the most entertaining part of the Tonys has to be Michael Reidel's prediction show this week where Michael, three other queens and a dyke (all right all critics but that's how they came off) gave their comments.  My favorite remark" "Of course Hugh Jackman will win and he'll thank his wife and his personal assistant".  This show is almostworth giving money to PBS.
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« Reply #34 on: June 06, 2004, 08:07:48 AM »

LOL WEL - and we don't even get to see it in Indiana.

Thanks for the info DB - I will look at Amazon!

I once played Tony Wendice, cad and murder conspirator in DIAL M FOR MURDER.  So many lines!  So many lines!

Matinee of STATE FAIR today, but home in plenty of time for the Tony Awards which for us will start at 9 pm EST since we are in the CST time zone now.  And I can't get the NY channel on the satellite at this time. 8-(

I hope everyone printed out a ballot - the link was in the notes a few days ago - it will be very easy use and very practical!
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« Reply #35 on: June 06, 2004, 08:13:18 AM »

Oh and DRPANNI - you may be interested to learn that Mr Ronald Reagan got a lot of his acting training from Miss Sophie Rosenstein who worked as the acting coach at Warner Bros for many years before moving to Universal International (where she was NO help to Lori Nelson).  ;D

Ms Rosenstein got her job through her former student at the University of Washington/Seattle - Miss Frances Farmer.  :'(

Ms Rosenstein was also the wife of Mr Gig Young!  ;D
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« Reply #36 on: June 06, 2004, 08:22:38 AM »

This should indeed be an interesting Tony night in light of the extensive campaigning AVENUE Q has done for the award. If it does indeed win over WICKED, we will see a new era in campaigning for the prize in the years to come.
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« Reply #37 on: June 06, 2004, 08:24:02 AM »

Favorite lyric on my "JR CD" (attention FS Pogue):
Annette: The perfect boy doesn't have to be a Hercules
Chorus: Her-cu-leees....
Annette: The perfect boy doesn't have to be Euripides
Chorus: ''Rip-ee-deees
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« Reply #38 on: June 06, 2004, 08:25:22 AM »

No matter how good the actual broadcast is tonight, the most entertaining part of the Tonys has to be Michael Reidel's prediction show this week where Michael, three other queens and a dyke (all right all critics but that's how they came off) gave their comments.  My favorite remark" "Of course Hugh Jackman will win and he'll thank his wife and his personal assistant".  This show is almostworth giving money to PBS.

WEL, by saying "three other queens" you're implying that Michael is gay himself, a situation most definitely refuted by that article about him which was linked here yesterday.

Do you have information that others of us are lacking?
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« Reply #39 on: June 06, 2004, 08:27:10 AM »

Ladies and Gentlemen of HHW - for Tony Day, I present STAIRWAY TO STARDOM!!!   ;D

Particularly for those with DSL or cable modem for fast downloading - talent you will NOT believe!   8)

http://www.sharpeworld.com/Stairway/stairway.html

I am not sure which is my favorite, but the tap dancing girl or the Elvis "America" are certainly up there....or down there, as the case may be!   :P
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« Reply #40 on: June 06, 2004, 08:29:39 AM »

Yes, Panni, I was thinking you would enjoy that lyric....now imagine it sung by Annette in capri pants sitting on a blanket on the beach surrounded by girls dressed in swimsuits.....pretending to know who Euripedes is....or maybe not even caring....

The perfect boy only has to be faith - ful
True and faithful to me!
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« Reply #41 on: June 06, 2004, 09:13:50 AM »

Having caught up on the morning posts let me just say, "This is where the partay is!"  By the way (BTW, in Internet lingo), just what was up doing on the morning posts anyway?  That naughty up.

The Tony show is slated for three hours.  Yet, they can't give a series of important awards on the air.  Yet, the Tony shows of old were three hours and they not only managed to give all the awards but to do all the numbers, scenes from plays and various tribute sequences.  Why?  Simple.  At leat one third of tonight's show will be commercials, which was not quite the way it was in days of old.
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« Reply #42 on: June 06, 2004, 09:26:09 AM »

Ain't it the truth...there just ain't no class anymore.

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« Reply #43 on: June 06, 2004, 09:26:43 AM »

Extracts from an LA Times article:

Days of the great dark way
By Patrick Pacheco
Special to The Times

Jun 6 2004

On the face of it, the new Broadway musical "Avenue Q" is a delicious bit of fluff with its bright bouncy tunes and eccentric cast of slackers…But the central character, Princeton, just out of school and newly arrived in New York, faces a quandary out of Samuel Beckett: What am I doing on this earth?

His existential conundrum, as well as the story's dabbles in racism, homophobia and Internet porn, are the darker shades that temper the comedy in this musical comedy — shades that colored several other Broadway shows, which, like "Avenue Q," opened during the 2003-04 season.

"The Boy From Oz," based on the glitzy showbiz life of the late entertainer Peter Allen, included deaths from AIDS complications, a topic as well in the short-lived "Taboo," which detailed the drug-soaked club years of pop star Boy George. The spectacularly lavish "Wicked" looked at the "Wizard of Oz" legend from a perspective of genetic tampering and segregation, the latter also being addressed in "Bombay Dreams," about an Indian slum dweller's rise to film fame, and "Caroline, or Change," which revolves around a black maid's fury in 1963 Louisiana. Perhaps only "Never Gonna Dance," the flop adaptation of the 1936 Fred Astaire-Ginger Rogers movie "Swing Time," was a return to the frothy mindlessness long associated with musical comedy.

Weighty themes in musical theater of course are nothing new, dating to 1927, when "Show Boat" dared to treat the serious subjects of betrayal, abandonment and miscegenation, and carried on in any number of musicals from "Oklahoma!" to "Assassins," which finally made its bow on Broadway this season. But at least from a commercial point of view, the recent trend seemed to be toward a return to the traditional sense of musical comedy. In 2001, "The Producers" became a phenomenon and swept up a record 12 Tony Awards. And the successes of "Mamma Mia!" and multiple Tony winner "Hairspray" seemed to underline that audiences, rattled by the bleak and despairing headlines after Sept. 11, were seeking a refuge in lighter fare.

But that premise has been tested to varying degrees this season, especially by the four nominees for this year's best musical Tony Award: "Avenue Q," "Wicked," "The Boy From Oz" and "Caroline, or Change.

"I don't think of qualities of darkness and light in the musicals I choose to do," says Jeffrey Seller, who with his partner Kevin McCollum has been lead producer on "Rent," "La Bohème" and now "Avenue Q." "But I think what's appealing is provocative material that takes you to a darker place but still manages to thrill with qualities we traditionally associate with musicals, like great songs and great dancing."
"Avenue Q", which uses the conventions of "Sesame Street" to make its points lightheartedly, is arguably an easier sell. (And, in fact, it has become the first commercial hit of the season, having recently paid back its investment.) But even so, Seller says he and McCollum lobbied the creators — book writer Jeff Whitty and songwriters Robert Lopez and Jeff Marx — to end the musical with the entire company happily on stage rather than with just Princeton standing alone in the doorway, still caught in his existential quandary. "My instinct is to go with what is most pleasing to the audience," Seller says, "but they argued — quite rightly — that this is not what the show was about. Life is always a struggle in finding your purpose."

On the other hand, producer Ben Gannon, who shepherded "Boy From Oz" from page to stage, first in Australia and then in New York, says that appealing to the broadest possible audience was always uppermost in his mind. In his favor was the fact that Allen, at one time married to Liza Minnelli, was a consummate showman who could appeal both to gay men and the proverbial "blue-haired" matinee ladies. More problematic, the semiautobiographical musical had to address the composer's and his boyfriend's deaths from complications of AIDS in the early '90s as well as Allen's abusive and alcoholic father, who committed suicide. (Not to mention the accidental overdose of his mother-in-law, Judy Garland.)

The show in Australia glossed over some of the sadder aspects. But Gannon said he knew that American audiences would demand "more depth." Consequently, Martin Sherman, whose best-known drama in America had been "Bent," about gays in Nazi Germany, was hired to add heft to the original book. "To tell the story truthfully, we knew we had to include these elements," Gannon says. "But the last thing we needed was a scene in a hospital bed." The solution? Get the AIDS deaths out of the way fast to reach what the producer calls "Rio Heaven," the musical's concluding fantasia of all the characters — living and dead — reunited in a extended play rendition of Allen's hit "I Go to Rio."

Of course, many people in the audience would be willing to go to hell and back because the guide is, after all, Hugh Jackman, who will host tonight's telecast and has a bet-the-house lock on the leading actor in a musical Tony Award. "Hugh, like Peter, is incredibly charming and likable and that carries the day in terms of handling these darker issues," Gannon says. "But we always knew that we would go only so far into that world if we wanted to have any hope of recouping our [$8.5-million] investment. You can't ask people to spend $100 a ticket and then depress them."

"Wicked" had wider latitude in telling its revisionist story about the Wicked Witch of the West, who is neither as wicked nor as witchy as she has been fixed in the popular imagination. According to its lead producer, Marc Platt, the show could have struck either "a bright bouncy tone" or a more "brooding and ominous one." He says the fact that the creative team would aim for somewhere in the middle was clear from the first formal reading of the musical in Los Angeles in March 2001. "What surprised us was that people were not only entertained but also so emotionally involved in some of the darker undercurrents," Platt says. "This is about a girl who is brutally rejected by her father because of her skin color and is abused by those in power."

Positively 'Wicked'

Among the boldest decisions taken was to entrust a $14-million musical to Joe Mantello …Joe matched the sensibility of Stephen and Winnie to deliver mainstream entertainment that could deliver great songs, sets and music," Platt says, "but surprise the audience by tackling more provocative themes, like the responsibility of power and who gets to write history

A hot ticket, "Wicked" should have no problem recouping its investment and launching a global franchise, something few people are predicting for "Caroline, or Change." The musical by Tony Kushner and Jeanine Tesori is by far the riskiest commercial proposition to arrive on Broadway since Stephen Sondheim's "Passion" (or, for that matter, "Assassins", though that is protected by being presented under the auspices of the nonprofit Roundabout Theatre).

Like "Passion," "Caroline" also features a sour lead character whose dreams are stuck in amber. Caroline's best hope for the future — a realization brought about after a particularly ugly exchange in the Jewish household in which she serves as a maid — is simply one of resignation and calm, hardly the cathartic ending promised by most musicals…
"I think whenever you're blazing a trail, you just have to keep whacking away with a machete and be thankful for whatever you do get from audiences," says Carole Shorenstein Hays, the San Francisco-based theater owner and producer …"I think if you ever try to do the safe thing, it rarely turns out to be that way."

If Tony history is any indication, "Caroline" will have a tough time snatching the top award of the night from its competition. Almost invariably, the sunnier show has won: "West Side Story" lost to "The Music Man," "Gypsy" to "The Sound of Music," "Sunday in the Park With George" to "La Cage aux Folles…

"When you're a pioneer, sometimes it takes a bit of work and a bit of time," she says. "Sometimes it's better to leave it for history to decide rather than to try to second-guess these things."

But second-guessing is what Broadway producers are paid to do in terms of the audience's acceptance of whatever may be proffered. Those expectations change, as the revival of "Chicago" has proved so lucratively. When that John Kander-Fred Ebb musical opened in 1975, director Bob Fosse's black comic vision of merry murderesses was widely considered by both audiences and critics as too cynical and nasty. Likewise, when "Assassins" bowed in 1991 off-Broadway, there was a revulsion expressed in many of the reviews that the subject matter of presidential assassination could be considered fitting for the musical idiom. The glowing reviews it has received this time around are a vindication of sorts for Sondheim and book writer John Weidman.

[Bolding is mine, not the Times]

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« Reply #44 on: June 06, 2004, 09:36:47 AM »

At leat one third of tonight's show will be commercials, which was not quite the way it was in days of old.

Which wouldn't be so bad if we were treated to fresh Clio-aspiring ads like the Superbowl attracts instead of retreads of "This Ain't' Your Father's Oldsmobile" and "100 Gourmet Uses for Velveeta".

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« Reply #45 on: June 06, 2004, 09:41:11 AM »

That first national broadcast of the Tony Awards in 1967 where CABARET won over I DO! I DO! THE APPLE TREE, and WALKING HAPPY, wasn't it just 90 minutes? And it still managed to present the awards and do numbers from all four shows.
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« Reply #46 on: June 06, 2004, 09:57:16 AM »

Excuse me, but where in tarnation IS everyone?  One person is a partay?  Yes, it's Sunday, but it's Tony Sunday and if this errant and truantness continues, Tony Soprano will be doing the bitch-slapping around these here parts.

My favorite Tony moments: Seeing the first Tony broadcast from a hotel room in Cincinatti.  I couldn't believe how exciting it was to see Wilkommen and I Do! I Do!  Others have already mentioned A Chorus Line's opening, and I would add the divine Turkey Lurky Time, You're Never Fully Dressed Without a Smile (maybe my favorite Tony moment I've watched the most), And I Am Telling You I Am Not Going, and Miss Dorothy Loudon's Fifty Percent from Ballroom.
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« Reply #47 on: June 06, 2004, 10:02:27 AM »

I too loved the ANNIE moment!  

Off to the STATE FAIR matinee.  Pray for Rosemary's Baby.
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« Reply #48 on: June 06, 2004, 10:03:20 AM »

How do people feel about having the Tonys at Radio City? Somehow, I liked the smaller, more intimate feel of doing it at a Broadway house like the Imperial or even newer houses like the Gershwin or the Minskoff.

I guess it's grander for the TV audience to have it in a HUGE place, and it's probably easier for TV lights and cameras to be in a larger house like Radio City, but I love seeing the old shows from various legitimate theaters like the Hellinger.
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« Reply #49 on: June 06, 2004, 10:08:31 AM »

RE THE NON-BROADCAST SECTION OF THE TONYS:

Go to this URL

http://www.tonyawards.com/en_US/index.html

THEN CLICK ON
News: The First Six Awards: A TonyAwards.com Video Webcast Exclusive
Be here at 7:15 p.m. (ET) on Sunday as Marissa Jaret Winokur hosts the first 45 minutes of the awards ceremony, available only on this site.

...AND YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO WATCH.
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« Reply #50 on: June 06, 2004, 10:11:15 AM »

...There are other interesting features on that page to check out.
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« Reply #51 on: June 06, 2004, 10:12:29 AM »

Thanks, Panni. I have bookmarked that site so I can watch prior to the network broadcast.
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« Reply #52 on: June 06, 2004, 10:13:57 AM »

So is everyone having partys at their house in honor of the Tonys?  

What special dish are you cooking for this day or are your going out someplace to watch them?  Can you even do that?  Like a sports bar kinda thing?

I just put a nice pork roast with garlic and onions on to cook with sweet potatos.  We'll have a nice side salid with that.

I'll be here on HHW and watching the TV at same time.  
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« Reply #53 on: June 06, 2004, 10:17:51 AM »

Would you like to touch my Tony?

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« Reply #54 on: June 06, 2004, 10:18:32 AM »

Would you like to see my Tony's backside?

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« Reply #55 on: June 06, 2004, 10:21:01 AM »

Where did you get that?  
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« Reply #56 on: June 06, 2004, 10:22:08 AM »

I'm tres excited about the Tonys tonight. Tres, tres excited. When it comes right down to it, I'd like to see any of them win the award, so tonight's just going to be about enjoying theatre for what it is and for what it means to me. I think that all of those nominees deserve to win--they've all done fantastic work--so I'm not going to fret if AVE. Q wins over WICKED or if Donna wins over Tonya. I'm just gonna have fun.

My most memorable Tony shows: Seeing "La Vie Boheme." I'm not a RENThead, but that clip made me want the recording. Seeing my friend, Dan, performing with the cast of LA BOHEME--I was so proud of him. Kristi Chenoweth winning for Sally. I cried with her. Getting chills watching the scene from TITANIC. Sitting with my jaw on the ground when they did the three-diva opening (Patti, Jennifer H. and Betty) three or four years ago. I think "Defying Gravity" will be one of those moments for me tonight. And maybe Tonya's "Lot's Wife." Somewhere in the back of my mind I seem to remember seeing a performance of "Tevye's Dream" and "At the End of the Day" on TV. Don't know if it was on the Tonys or somewhere else, but I remember Fruma Sarah being incredibly tall and it scared the shite out of me. (I was very young). And I remember the audience going nuts for LES MIZ. I wasn't "into" theatre then, so I didn't pay much attention.

I'm going to a Tony-watching party tonight at a friend's house. He has most of the Tonys on tape from the early 70's to last year. I'm going to ask him if I could possibly get him to put the performance clips on DVD for me. Heck, I'll do it myself if he'll show me how! But before I can do any celebrating of Tony, I have to go wash my clothes...and see Senora Lavadora. :-\
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« Reply #57 on: June 06, 2004, 10:26:49 AM »

How do people feel about having the Tonys at Radio City? Somehow, I liked the smaller, more intimate feel of doing it at a Broadway house like the Imperial or even newer houses like the Gershwin or the Minskoff.

Before I moved to "the City," the Tonys were my only way to see what the inside of an honest-to-goodness Broadway theatre looked like. I don't know why it held so many mysteries--I'd been in dozens of theatres before--but those were BROADWAY Theatres. In my two and a half years here I've been lucky enough to see at least one show in nearly every Broadway house in New York, but I would still love to see the Tonys broadcast from the theatres where the magic actually happens.
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« Reply #58 on: June 06, 2004, 10:27:17 AM »

Hey Joey:

What's the scoop on the "Tales of 2 Cities" show pictured on your web page?

Also, you mentioned watching a "Song of the South" VHS - was it a copy of the Japaneses LaserDisc or the UK VHS done in 1997?

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« Reply #59 on: June 06, 2004, 10:32:07 AM »

Almost forgot my BET YOU DIDN'T KNOW THEY WERE HUNGARIAN! of the day...

As it's awards day, first a factoid. Unfortunately, I have no Tony info, so the Oscars will have to do....
"According to the Associated Press, (AP-NY-10-26-96 1604EDT) people with some claim to Hungarian ancestry have been nominated for Oscars 136 times since 1929, when the first ones were handed out, and have taken home 30."
(That figure actually seems low to me, but who am I to argue with AP?)

And now our Hungie of the day. Because it's Tony day...[DRUM ROLL]
ADOLPH GREEN  - Green was born in the Bronx to Hungarian immigrants Daniel and Helen Weiss Green.
(And I can attest to the fact that he actually spoke Hungarian because I once had a lovely conversation with him in just that language.)
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