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[George]

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[Cillaliz]

TOD:

9/11 events
11/22/63 events
Titanic

You watched the Titanic on TV?  I didn't know the sinking was televised

[Cillaliz]

The pen is a tattoo:

Different...interesting.

He could have just grown hair

[Cillaliz]

TOD: what haven't I watched obsessively....well I guess what's going on now, but I watched  Oklahoma City Bombing, the standoff at Waco, maybe even Randy Weaver's stand off,  OJ - but not so much the bronco chase itself, I was in a karaoke contest that night, 911 of course, Princess Di tragedy and funeral the royal weddings, sheesh, I'm pretty much glued to whatever event is going on

[Cillaliz]

I guess I'm one of those out of towners who went to  ground zero.  I didn't go there until about a year and a half after it happened. We had a seminar at the Marriott Financial Center. 

I had stayed in the Marriott WTC less than a year before 911 and remember going to a dinner at the top to honor Bianca Jagger for her international work against the death penalty.  I sat at the same table with Ricky Kleiman, William Bratton, Micky Sherman and others.  (they were grooming me for leadership in the criminal defense lawyers organization, but I decided against it).  I took lots of photos that day out the windows.  I looked at those a lot on 911

[vixmom]

I couldn't bear to watch the 9/11 coverage,  we were there just  13 days before and were not able to go up to the observatory because of a bomb threat

I have not been back to the neighborhood yet....

[vixmom]

the only news event that I  actively sought out information would be the murder of the Vixter's friend, Kyle

[Cillaliz]

I think for me any many others going there was making it real.   It was real to all of you who are there, of course. And I'm sure there are a lot of others who have absolutely no interest in making it real, but it was so hard to get my mind around it, that even seeing it over and over on TV, it really didn't seem real. Even being evacuated from a federal building, waiting in line for hours to give blood and watching the media scamper when they heard President Bush was in Omaha (90 miles away) didn't make it real.  The first trip there was very sobering. It was a chance for me to pay my respects to those who perished, something I felt a need to do even though I didn't know them. 

But it was also uplifting. I saw that people were back at work, some surrounding buildings had been repaired and rebuilt and others were preparing to open or be demolished.  It was good to see.   It was like the American Spirit. No matter what happens, you can't keep us down.

I went to the same hotel for a seminar a couple years later and it was so cool to see how life had come back even more.   I want to go back again and go to the memorial.   I guess I don't completely understand why I have  need to go there, but I do.  I suspect many other people from around the country and the world have the same feeling. 

[Cillaliz]

I became really fascinated by the Titanic after I saw the movie. I started reading everything I could get my hands on. Then I went back to the movie over and over.  I was amazed at the little details that were historically correct.  It was fun to catch another here and there.  I've always been interested in the Titanic, but not like I was for a while ther

[Cillaliz]

And Ok, I read 24 books about the OJ Simpson case and trial.  I think Jeffrey Toobin's was the best

[Cillaliz]

I tend to get interested in something and read absolutely everything I can about it.  Then when my curiosity is satisfied, I don't think about it anymore

[Cillaliz]

But enough about me

[John G.]

I tend to get interested in something and read absolutely everything I can about it.  Then when my curiosity is satisfied, I don't think about it anymore

I'm like you on that. I read everything about the BTK killer when he got arrested and haven't thought about him in ages.

[vixmom]

I didn't mean to come off as critical -  and I  am sorry if that is how it appeared -  it is all too real to me -  the street I live on was renamed for the grandfather of of the Vixter's classmates - (as was our post office)  other streets in our town are named after people in town who perished that day

my family was very lucky -  my brother was delayed by a phone call  and was late for his meeting at building # 2 -  - my cousin's business trip was cancelled on Monday night, so he wasn't on the plane that crashed into the Pentagon

but there are too many people I know who have less fortunate families..

I  guess I am just afraid that if I go down there I will start crying and not be able to stop ever again

[John G.]

Good night, all.

Hope to catch up tomorrow.

[vixmom]

With Kyle I needed to know that they found the person who had done this terrible terrible thing -  and it seems they have - now we await the trial

[Cillaliz]

I didn't mean to come off as critical -  and I  am sorry if that is how it appeared -  it is all too real to me -  the street I live on was renamed for the grandfather of of the Vixter's classmates - (as was our post office)  other streets in our town are named after people in town who perished that day

my family was very lucky -  my brother was delayed by a phone call  and was late for his meeting at building # 2 -  - my cousin's business trip was cancelled on Monday night, so he wasn't on the plane that crashed into the Pentagon

but there are too many people I know who have less fortunate families..

I  guess I am just afraid that if I go down there I will start crying and not be able to stop ever again

Oh, I didn't take it as you being critical at all.  Someone wondered about out of towners going there or something like that, anyway, it was my way of explaining my experience.  I would definitely feel differently if I had lived through it there. 

[singdaw]

Yes, indeed - welcome home, DR John G.!

[singdaw]

I thought your statement was beautiful, DR Cillaliz.

[Cillaliz]

And I'm sorry if I talked about 911 too much, I know it's a sensitive subject for some and I don't want to bring up bad feelings for anyone

[Cillaliz]

Thanks Singdaw

[vixmom]

And I'm sorry if I talked about 911 too much, I know it's a sensitive subject for some and I don't want to bring up bad feelings for anyone

not as far as I am concerned  and I appreciate what you said about the rebuilding efforts

[vixmom]

Dan -  I didn't realize you were a local boy ---- for 14 years I worked at a building  between Union Turnpike and  Marcus Avenue, just east of Lakeville Road - and I bet you know just where i mean!
 

[vixmom]

well I better get me some beauty sleep  i have to go into  NYC tomorrow for  a business meeting

[bk]

Back from the casting session and shall now finish half a motion picture.

[ChasSmith]

Vixmom, it just happens that I carry a li'l memory around with me about the February 1993 bombing of the WTC.  It was a day I took off work to drive friends and self out to a then-new CompUSA store near a large mall -- was it Hempstead?  Valley Stream?  I forget, but I guess it had to be out toward Vixville USA.  Anyhoo, the bombing had happened that morning, and all day long we kept listening to WCBS (traffic and weather on the eights) and eyeing the WTC from a distance -- it was an overcast but sharp, clear day, and the skyline and twin towers were etched so beautifully, and it all looked so calm from out there on the expressways and bridges.

[ChasSmith]

I just watched THIEF for my first time since 1981.  What a movie!  Another li'l memory:  I was living on Mentone Ave. in Palms and saw it at the Century Plaza with a sparse audience on a quiet week night.  It played the large theater and I sat in the rear about halfway up the stadium seating.  At the time, I found it entertaining or suspenseful enough, but much of it flew right over my head and I kind of forgot it over the years, even after getting to know a couple of other Michael Mann films.  Now it's so rewarding to return to things like that and be able to sink my teeth into them.

[ChasSmith]

Well, I too must get some beauty sleep.  I have my checkup at the optometrist tomorrow.  I totally missed last year's, and I'm pretty sure it's time for a change in prescription, so.....here goes a few more bucks.  (A few.  Ha.  I do amuse myself.)

[bk]

I don't know that I've ever seen Thief.

[bk]

Finished with my viewing.