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Re:NO MORE TUMULT
« Reply #30 on: August 31, 2004, 07:58:26 AM »

Poetry - I love Dylan Thomas. One of my very favorite of his poems is FERN HILL. IMHO it is one of the greatest reflections on the beauty and innocence of childhood ever written. It's too long to print out here in full. I'll just print the first verse and the last. The last three lines of the poem bring tears to my eye, no matter how often I read them.


     Now as I was young and easy under the apple boughs
     About the lilting house and happy as the grass was green,
       The night above the dingle starry,
         Time let me hail and climb
       Golden in the heydays of his eyes,
     And honoured among wagons I was prince of the apple towns
     And once below a time I lordly had the trees and leaves
         Trail with daisies and barley
       Down the rivers of the windfall light.

Last verse:

Nothing I cared, in the lamb white days, that time would take me
     Up to the swallow thronged loft by the shadow of my hand,
       In the moon that is always rising,
         Nor that riding to sleep
       I should hear him fly with the high fields
     And wake to the farm forever fled from the childless land.
     Oh as I was young and easy in the mercy of his means,
         Time held me green and dying
       Though I sang in my chains like the sea.


Anyone who doesn't know the poem and would like to read it, can find it at
                http://www.bigeye.com/fernhill.htm



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« Reply #31 on: August 31, 2004, 08:03:39 AM »

Happy Birthday to Swishy Sarah!

I like JUST FOR YOU and HERE COMES THE GROOM about equally, though I think in terms of sophistication, I like GROOM maybe just a little bit better. Bing must have had major deja vu five years later making HIGH SOCIETY which has a similar idea of breaking up a marriage before it takes place. I also thought it was interesting that the Paramount powers that be would go to Hogey Carmichael and Johnny Mercer for "In the Cool, Cool, Cool of the Evening" when Livingstone and Evans wrote everything else in the movie. I'll bet that made them angry.

I remember reading Harry Warren's bitter words of recrimination when Rogers Edens and other MGM notables added the Gershwins' "They Can't Take That Away from Me" to the score of THE BARKLEYS OF BROADWAY without even mentioning it to him they were doing it. Of course, that sequence is by far the best in the picture.
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« Reply #32 on: August 31, 2004, 08:07:13 AM »

ot much of a poetry person. I college, knowing I was going to have to teach poetry once I got hired to teach high school, I took a modern poetry to try to gain some appreciation for the art. I made an A for the class (hard earned as we had to have about 200 poems at our brain-tips for the final exam to be able to identify poet and theme), but I emerged with no greater appreciation for it than when I entered.

So, other than Shakespeare as a poet, I did read and enjoy Robert Frost and Emily Dickinson, some of T.S. Eliot and some of James Dickey. But I couldn't really say any of them are real favorites.
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« Reply #33 on: August 31, 2004, 08:11:28 AM »

Benny Goodman recorded "Let's Dance" long before David Bowie.

And Goodman was merely riffing on Carl Maria Von Weber's "Invitation to the Dance."
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« Reply #34 on: August 31, 2004, 08:14:57 AM »

Happy Birthday, Sarah.  Swish on, girl!
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« Reply #35 on: August 31, 2004, 08:16:50 AM »

My favorite poets include the Americans Carl Sandburg, Edna St. Vincent Millay, and Walt Whitman. But I think my favorite poem of all, learned in college, is by W.B. Yeats.

The Lake Isle of Innisfree
William Butler Yeats


I will arise and go now, and go to Innisfree,
And a small cabin build there, of clay and wattles made:
Nine bean-rows will I have there, a hive for the honey-bee;
And live alone in the bee-loud glade.

And I shall have some peace there, for peace comes dropping slow,
Dropping from the veils of the morning to where the cricket sings;
There midnight's all a glimmer, and noon a purple glow,
And evening full of the linnet's wings.

I will arise and go now, for always night and day
I hear lake water lapping with low sounds by the shore;
While I stand on the roadway, or on the pavements grey,
I hear it in the deep heart's core.
 

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« Reply #36 on: August 31, 2004, 08:24:04 AM »

In my early years of teaching, I taught Longfellow's EVANGELINE which I always found beautiful and heartbreaking. Other Longfellow ballads were also part of the curriculum. By the 1980s, almost all of his poems had been removed from the literature texts we used. He had become thoroughly out of favor.

The Sherlock Holmes stories were bounced out of the texts for a couple of textbook adoption periods (5-6 years generally), too, but by my last few years, they had been reinstated, and I reveled in getting to teach "The Adventure of the Speckled Band" and "The Red Headed League."
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« Reply #37 on: August 31, 2004, 08:35:14 AM »

I think I've got an early morning one woman frenzy going here. I used to really enjoy writing poetry, haven't done it in ages. My ex-husband, whatever else I may think of him, was a good poet. One of his poems, "Windows," published years ago in Canada in The Proper Lover, a slim volume of his poetry, is a love poem (to - blush - me) that's actually a memory poem, a reflection on childhood (in his case in Newfoundland - which has Irish roots - thus a connection to Dylan Thomas in his style) and how that first bloom of love makes you feel like a child again.  Here's a bit:

The voices of the grown-ups
were as distant as a wasp.
Inside the house
there was a window where someone
had caught the colours of the rainbow
in small glass squares,
a magic place where the world
would shift from green to red
to the glow of yellow
as I moved my head,
the changing colours of the world,
the changing shades that licked my face
until I dreamed the world
was smeared and washed with colour,
and four-years-old
I slept the world
away.

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« Reply #38 on: August 31, 2004, 09:03:35 AM »

Oh my such wonderful poetry...such wonderful poetry.

It always reminds me of the time when Irving Thalberg was castigating his writers and said:  "What is writing anyway, just putting one word after the other..."

And Ben Hecht (I think) replied:  "No, Irving, it's putting one RIGHT word after the other...."
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« Reply #39 on: August 31, 2004, 09:22:18 AM »

Frank O'Hara and William Carlos Williams are my favorites.  Also like some e. e. cummings.  I'm thrilled that O'Hara's words are immortalized on a fence in front of the Battery Park City marina.

At a recent wedding which took place on a boat going around Manhattan, the bride instructed me to answer the questions about out-of-towners, to be the resident expert on New York.  People being, well, what they are, the most common question was "Where was the World Trade Center?"  So, when we were in front of the marina, I had to say, between those buildings, rather than say, on that fence they have a quote from one of my favorite poets, Frank O'Hara.

Rare is the opportunity to discuss poetry!

Here's one of the more famous O'Hara poems.  "Lady" was how fans referred to Billie Holliday.

THE DAY LADY DIED

It is 12:20 in New York a Friday
three days after Bastille Day, yes
it is 1959 and I go get a shoeshine
because I will get offthe 419 in Easthampton
at 7:15 and then go straight to dinner
and I don't know the people who will feed me

I walk up the muggy street beginning to sun
and have a hamburger and a malted and buy
an ugly NEW WORLD WRITING to see what the poets
in Ghana are doing these days
I go on to the bank
and Miss Stillwagon (first name Linda I once heard)
doesn't even look up my balance for once in her life
and in the GOLDEN GRIFFIN I get a little Verlaine
for Patsy with drawings by Bonnard although I do
think of Hesiold, trans. Richmond Lattimore or
Brendan Behan's new play or Le Balcon or Les Negres
of Genet, but I don't, I stink with Verlaine
after practically going to sleep with quandariness

and for Mike I just stroll into the PARK LANE
Liquor Store and ask for a bottle of Strega and
then I go back where I came form to 6th Avenue
and the tobacconist in the Ziegfeld Theatre and
casually ask for a carton of Gauloises and a carton
of Picayunes, and a NEW YORK POST with her face on it

and I am sweating a lot by now and thinking
of leaning of the john door in the FIVE SPOT
while she whispered a song along the keybord
to Mal Waldron and everyone and I stopped breathing

7/17/59


Frank O'Hara

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Re:NO MORE TUMULT
« Reply #40 on: August 31, 2004, 09:31:39 AM »

Is anybody else looking at the title of today's notes and humming No More Candy from She Loves Me?
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« Reply #41 on: August 31, 2004, 09:34:33 AM »

What lovely poetical postings.  I've never much been into poetry myself, so I'm thoroughly enjoying this.  
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« Reply #42 on: August 31, 2004, 09:53:43 AM »

[move=left,scroll,6,transparent,100%]HAPPY BIRTHDAY §WI§HY §ARAH !![/move]

Could someone P.M. me the rest of the poem that goes:
There was a young man from Nantucket...
I know the second line, but I've never been told the rest of it. ::) Seriously...I have NEVER known how it ends!

Otherwise, you can count me as yest another non-poetry fan.  But when I was much younger, my sister was a fan of Isaac Asimov and she had a book of short stories by him.  This poem was in it and she memorized it.  For some reason, I did too.  It's the only real poem that I've ever memorized...and I like it.  It's funny:

THE PRIME OF LIFE by Isaac Asimov ;)

It was, in truth, an eager youth
Who halted me one day.
He gazed in bliss at me, and this
Is what he had to say:

"Why, mazel tov, it's Asimov,
A blessing on your head!
For many a year, I've lived in fear
That you were long since dead.

Or if alive, one fifty-five
Cold years had passed you by,
And left you weak, with poor physique,
Thin hair and rheumy eye.

For sure enough, I've read your stuff
Since I was but a lad
And couldn't spell or hardly tell
The good yarns from the bad.

My father, too, was reading you
Before he met my Ma.
For you he earned, once he had learned
About you from _his_ Pa.

Since time began, you wondrous man,
My ansestors did love
That s.f. dean and writing machine
The aged Asimov."

I'd had my fill. I said: "Be still!
I've kept my old-time spark.
My step is light, my eye is bright,
My hair is thick and dark."

His smile, in brief, spelled disbelief,
So this is what I did;
I scowled, you know, and with one blow,
I killed that rotten kid.
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« Reply #43 on: August 31, 2004, 10:18:34 AM »

For DR George:

There once was a man from Nantucket,
Who kept all of his cash in a bucket,
But his daughter, named Nan,
Ran away with a man,
And as for the bucket, Nantucket.


P.S. Do you want me to PM you the non-family-site version? You've been warned.
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« Reply #44 on: August 31, 2004, 10:23:18 AM »

I don't know from poetry.
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« Reply #45 on: August 31, 2004, 10:30:25 AM »

I remember memorizing "How Do I love Thee" for grade 8 drama class.  One other classmate also memorized it, yet paused at all the wrong points.  I remember getting a very good grade for that one.

DR Elmore, continued good health vibes ~~~~~~~~~~.

BK, good mold vibes ~~~~~~~~~~~~.

DR Ann, good job vibes ~~~~~~~~~~~.
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« Reply #46 on: August 31, 2004, 10:30:57 AM »

Limericks count as poetry?  Oh, well, in that case I have lots of favorite poems.  

But none of them can be posted here, as this is a family site.
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« Reply #47 on: August 31, 2004, 10:36:06 AM »

I finally saw Tiger Cruise and enjoyed it very much.

I really love the lead girl, Hayden.  I used to see her on Guiding Light, and she was wonderful as a younger actress.  And still is great.

Question, did Disney make you guys write that sappy ending? :)

Am I the only one who wanted the father to go home and be with his family?
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« Reply #48 on: August 31, 2004, 11:03:23 AM »

Oh...DRNOEL has certainly posted a nifty poem....

And DRGEORGE did, as well.
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« Reply #49 on: August 31, 2004, 11:24:34 AM »

Is anybody else looking at the title of today's notes and humming No More Candy from She Loves Me?

I wasn't, but now I am.

BTW, what kind of confection would a tumult be? Something fudgelike?


We become indiscreet
Eating sweet after sweet,
Though we know very well where that may lead.
So this box was designed
With the two of us in mind
As the kind of reminder we need.
When you lift the lid, the music plays
Like a disapproving nod.
And it sings in your ear:
"No more tumult, my dear!"
In a way, it's a little like the voice of God.
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« Reply #50 on: August 31, 2004, 11:25:16 AM »

Is anybody else looking at the title of today's notes and humming No More Candy from She Loves Me?

Actually, everytime I look at it I think of the opening line of "No More" from Into The Woods.
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« Reply #51 on: August 31, 2004, 11:27:40 AM »

DTM,

Interesting, we replied to Noel's post within a minute of each other.
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« Reply #52 on: August 31, 2004, 11:36:37 AM »

Synchronicity....

Isn't that a Sherman & Sherman song from THE HAPPIEST MILLIONAIRE?
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« Reply #53 on: August 31, 2004, 11:38:41 AM »

Ahh....yes.....

One night in late October
When I was far from sober.
Returning with my load with manly pride.
My feet began to stutter, so I lay down in the gutter.
And a pig came up and lay down by my side.

A woman passing by was heard to say:
"You can tell a man who boozes
 by the company he chooses."
And the pig got up and slowly walked away.
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« Reply #54 on: August 31, 2004, 11:41:06 AM »

DTM,

Interesting, we replied to Noel's post within a minute of each other.

We are the same side of two different coins.

(i donno what that means either...)
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« Reply #55 on: August 31, 2004, 11:42:08 AM »

Synchronicity....

Isn't that a Sherman & Sherman song from THE HAPPIEST MILLIONAIRE?

Also a song from the same named album by The Police.  It's one of my desert island discs.
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« Reply #56 on: August 31, 2004, 11:42:38 AM »

Happy Birthday, DR Swishy Sarah!!!!

I don't know from poetry. DR Sandra has to explain it to me.

This is the only poem I understand:

A wonderful bird is the pelican,
His bill will hold more than his belican.
He can take in his beak
Food enough for a week,
But I'm damned if I see how the helican.
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« Reply #57 on: August 31, 2004, 11:48:03 AM »

Good Morning!

-Well, it's still morning here on this coast...

Just checking in on things here and there.  Unfortunately, the water and flood damage in Richmond from yesterday's downpour - 9 inches in 12 hours! - has caused millions of dollars of damage.  And, unfortunately, a bunch of my friends have been affected by the storm in one way or another.  I've been calling and IMing with them this morning.  The biggest casualty seems to be the Historic Shockoe Bottom area - whole buildings flooded out, some washed away.  Lots of restaurants and clubs in that area along with apartments and condos.  *And in an ironic "twist", it seems the city officials may be looking into the "purpose" of the newish flood wall that was constructed a few years ago.  It seems to be doing a great job of keeping the river from overflowing, unfortunately, it also seems to be doing a good job of keeping the water from city side "in"...

-Well, I've used the word "unfortunately" too many times by now...

OOHH!!!  -Well, just chatting with my roommate right now... Apparently, our upstairs neighbors ceiling fell in in three different places... Guess the roof patching job they did earlier this year... Ah, well...

Laters...
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« Reply #58 on: August 31, 2004, 11:48:06 AM »

hehehe  Pelican Doggerel!!!
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« Reply #59 on: August 31, 2004, 12:12:43 PM »

A BIG HAPPY SEVENTEENTH BIRTHDAY SWISHY SARAH! :)

Bruce, most potent vibes and xylophones and lessened tumult for the next few weeks.
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