Topic: NO MORE TUMULT (Read 17002 times)

Ron Pulliam · « **Reply #60 on:** August 31, 2004, 12:13:53 PM »

Quote from: Matt H. on August 31, 2004, 08:03:39 AM

I remember reading Harry Warren's bitter words of recrimination when Rogers Edens and other MGM notables added the Gershwins' "They Can't Take That Away from Me" to the score of THE BARKLEYS OF BROADWAY without even mentioning it to him they were doing it. Of course, that sequence is by far the best in the picture.

I think it's pretty, but I don't think it's better than "Swing Trot" which opens the movie -- sensationally -- under the credits. OF course, all that flowing of Rogers's gown and some spectacular dance moves make the number a standout for most folks, including me.

Stuart · « **Reply #61 on:** August 31, 2004, 12:15:31 PM »

Quote from: Dan (the Man) on August 31, 2004, 11:25:16 AM

Actually, everytime I look at it I think of the opening line of "No More" from Into The Woods.

I am with you, DR DTM.

Stuart · « **Reply #62 on:** August 31, 2004, 12:19:01 PM »

Quote from: JoseSPiano on August 31, 2004, 11:48:03 AM

Well, just chatting with my roommate right now... Apparently, our upstairs neighbors ceiling fell in in three different places...

I assume you mean your full-time roommate back home, n'est-ce pas? 'Cause unless DR/DB Jay has undertaken one of those Extreme Home Makeovers hosted by the glamorously talented carpenter Ty Pennington, I can't recall a second story on Jay's Pasadena manse......

bk · « **Reply #63 on:** August 31, 2004, 12:24:50 PM »

Welcome nine GUESTS. We're talkin' about poetry.

Dan-in-Toronto · « **Reply #64 on:** August 31, 2004, 12:37:44 PM »

Sarah - Have the Happiest of Birthdays and the Greatest of Years!

Jane · « **Reply #65 on:** August 31, 2004, 12:42:32 PM »

GOOD JOB VIBES FOR ANN!

Jennifer · « **Reply #66 on:** August 31, 2004, 12:44:41 PM »

For those here who watch Big Brother, here is the new twist that will happen on Thursday/Saturday:

http://www.tvrules.net/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=5693

Dan (the Man) · « **Reply #67 on:** August 31, 2004, 12:59:54 PM »

Beverage Haiku

I've downed three cans of
Caffeine Free Diet Pepsi.
A belch is coming.

JoseSPiano · « **Reply #68 on:** August 31, 2004, 01:01:12 PM »

Well.. I'm still here... (Ah, a FOLLIES reference...)...

I had planned to be heading into Hollywood by now to catch a movie at the Arclight, but the time just simply got away from me. I've been continuing to check in with friends back home in Richmond. Everyone is doing well, and staying dry. A few friends have flooded apartments and basements, but they all seem to be doing well and are in good spirits. And, thankfully, my apartment is nice and dry - even with the leaking roof in the upstairs apartment.

So... Now I shall be heading out. I'm planning on doing some walking around and sight-seeing and then catching "Broadway: The Golden Age" at the Laemmle Faifax at 4:40. See you there!

Oh, and I guess I could see the movie I had planned to catch at 2:00, "Garden State", after the other movie, hmmm...

Laters...

Jane · « **Reply #69 on:** August 31, 2004, 01:17:29 PM »

It really has been far to long since I have read poetry and I’m enjoying today’s posts. THE PRIME OF LIFE is great George. Emily Dickenson may be my favorite poet, after Keith. And Frost was always another favorite, especially THE ROAD NOT TAKEN.

A poem that had a great impact on me as a child was about a dog named Rags by Edmund Vance Cooke. I never read this poem without crying and insisted everyone read the poem. I just found it on the internet- http://www.animalsvoice.com/PAGES/poetry/rags.html
Warning-this is probably the reason I became a vegetarian.

Who remembers this fun one, THE CREMATION OF SAM MCGEE by Robert Service?
There are strange things done in the midnight sun
By the men who moil for gold;
The Arctic trails have their secret tales
That would make your blood run cold;
The Northern Lights have seen queer sights,
But the queerest they ever did see
Was that night on the marge of Lake Lebarge
I cremated Sam McGee.

For the entire poem
http://members.aol.com/acadac/poems/s_mcgee.html

My favorite poem is called WISHING and was written in 1970 by Keith. This poem is special as it captured the young woman I was and has kept her frozen in time.

Panni · « **Reply #70 on:** August 31, 2004, 01:25:20 PM »

Last time I was in San Francisco I went to the famous City Lights Book Store and bought POETRY DAILY - 366 POEMS FROM THE WORLD'S MOST POPULAR POETRY WEBSITE. There is a pooem for every day of the month and it's fun to look each day and see what the Poem of the Day is. (Today's is "Ant Farm' by Thilias Moss)
The poem for May 10 was #2 by Lawrence Ferlinghetti. And what a pleasant surprise when I found that he had signed and dated the poem.

Matt H. · « **Reply #71 on:** August 31, 2004, 01:42:24 PM »

Guess we'll have to prefer different dances in THE BARKLEYS OF BROADWAY, DR RLP. While I think "Swing Trot" is excellent, the lyrical and romantic allure of the Gershwins (plus the carryover of its somewhat throwaway use in SHALL WE DANCE) keep it just one step ahead for me.

Panni · « **Reply #72 on:** August 31, 2004, 01:43:19 PM »

Quote from: Jennifer on August 31, 2004, 10:36:06 AM

Question, did Disney make you guys write that sappy ending?

Am I the only one who wanted the father to go home and be with his family?

Jennifer,
Glad you liked the movie. I think it would have been somewhat unheroic for the father to desert his ship and go be with the family right after 9/11.
As for your query re the "sappy ending"... let me just respectfully say -- that's a dangerous kind of question to ask a writer. What if the answer were "No, Disney had nothing to do with it. It was all my idea." I think the foot-in-mouth quotient would be pretty high. As it is, that's not the case. But neither is Disney "made" the writers do it. It's more complex than that. These things tend to "evolve..." And the evolution is complicated,often frustrating and mostly impossible to explain to anyone not intimately involved in the process.
As a point of interest - there's also a huge difference between the way Americans feel about flag and country and the way Canadians feel. In the US, it's much more heartfelt, emotional and upfront. I think those feelings might also contribute to how one feels about the end of the movie. I would bet that it would be barf-inducing to 8 out of 10 Canadians.

Panni · « **Reply #73 on:** August 31, 2004, 01:45:30 PM »

Jennifer - As an experiment - you should send the tape to Dan-in-Toronto and we could get his take on it.

Matt H. · « **Reply #74 on:** August 31, 2004, 01:45:57 PM »

The afternoon has gotten away from me, too. I had planned on watching the DVD of YOU WERE NEVER LOVELIER, but got sidetracked watching the biography of Julie Newmar on The Biography Channel, so I'll watch the Fred-Rita musical tonight.

bk · « **Reply #75 on:** August 31, 2004, 01:46:06 PM »

Well, I saw Swishy Sarah hanging around the board today so at least we know she got her birthday wishes. Why she didn't respond to same is a question for the ages.

William E. Lurie · « **Reply #76 on:** August 31, 2004, 01:51:17 PM »

Quote from: RLP on August 31, 2004, 12:13:53 PM

I think it's pretty, but I don't think it's better than "Swing Trot" which opens the movie -- sensationally -- under the credits. OF course, all that flowing of Rogers's gown and some spectacular dance moves make the number a standout for most folks, including me.

In case you didn't know, one of the THAT'S ENTERTAINMENT films (I think it's 3) shows "Swing Trot" without the credits blocking out much of the dance.

Warning to DRs who collect Broadway Cast Albums:

The Decca Broadway CD of Cole Porter's MEXICAN HAYRIDE (with bonus tracks of "Mary Martin Sings Cole Porter") scheduled for release today is a faulty pressing with one of the Martin songs "accidently" replaced by a song from her LUTE SONG album. All copies have been recalled, although if you pre-ordered it on-line you will get the wrong version. A corrected version will be available in two or three weeks, distinguished by a sticker that says "First Time On CD" that is not on the faulty pressing. If you do end up with one of the pressings with the incorrect track, let me know and I'll give you the address where to send it for a free replacement of the corrected version. This is the third time in less than 2 years that this has happened with a Decca Broadway release (the others being MERRY WIDOW and SONG OF NORWAY).

Matt H. · « **Reply #77 on:** August 31, 2004, 01:52:57 PM »

OMG! I just read that Bitty Shramm, who plays the long suffering nurse Sharonna on MONK, will not return for the next set of episodes to premiere in January.

I think she's going to be SORELY missed in the show. The chemistry between her and Tony Shalhoub was palpable, and the success of his character being tolerable to us was in HER ability to tolerate him despite his eccentricities and phobias.

Argh!

Jennifer · « **Reply #78 on:** August 31, 2004, 02:08:08 PM »

Quote from: Panni on August 31, 2004, 01:43:19 PM

Jennifer,
Glad you liked the movie. I think it would have been somewhat unheroic for the father to desert his ship and go be with the family right after 9/11.
As for your query re the "sappy ending"... let me just respectfully say -- that's a dangerous kind of question to ask a writer. What if the answer were "No, Disney had nothing to do with it. It was all my idea." I think the foot-in-mouth quotient would be pretty high. As it is, that's not the case. But neither is Disney "made" the writers do it. It's more complex than that. These things tend to "evolve..." And the evolution is complicated,often frustrating and mostly impossible to explain to anyone not intimately involved in the process.
As a point of interest - there's also a huge difference between the way Americans feel about flag and country and the way Canadians feel. In the US, it's much more heartfelt, emotional and upfront. I think those feelings might also contribute to how one feels about the end of the movie. I would bet that it would be barf-inducing to 8 out of 10 Canadians.

Btw, I did not mean sappy in a bad way. I am just very curious about the process and was wondering who made the decision. And yeah the ending did seem very patriotic, while very "Disney".

I agree about what you said about it being hard to have the father go home after 9/11. And I'm not saying i would have wanted him to right then. But I really liked how the dad had realized the toll his absence had taken on his family. ANd I found it sort of unsatisfying that the family could not be together (even though I know that in the immediate future he was needed elsewhere).

Interesting what you say about Canadian vs American interpretation. I'd be interested to hear more opinions.

And if Emily or DIT are interested in watching it, just email me.

Jane · « **Reply #79 on:** August 31, 2004, 02:13:55 PM »

Quote from: Matt H. on August 31, 2004, 01:52:57 PM

OMG! I just read that Bitty Shramm, who plays the long suffering nurse Sharonna on MONK, will not return for the next set of episodes to premiere in January.

I think she's going to be SORELY missed in the show. The chemistry between her and Tony Shalhoub was palpable, and the success of his character being tolerable to us was in HER ability to tolerate him despite his eccentricities and phobias.

Argh!

Oh darn!

Jennifer · « **Reply #80 on:** August 31, 2004, 02:14:00 PM »

DR Panni, since you grew up in Canada, what was your first inclination on how to end the movie.

I think maybe part of my problem was that while Hayden's character was obviously wise beyond her years and very caring ... I still wonder how many kids would be that unselfish. I wasn't sure that I wanted her to give her father permission (maybe I was thinking that she would have simply accepted the fact, without it being her idea).

Anyhow, I hope this doesn't come across as criticism. I really enjoyed the movie. I'm just thinking out loud.

Tomovoz · « **Reply #81 on:** August 31, 2004, 02:19:12 PM »

Interesting dialogue with DR Jennifer and DR Panni.
In very general terms, the reason why we in OZ dislike so many USA TV programmes and movies is the patriotism "Barf" factor. It really is very much a cultural difference.

Jane · « **Reply #82 on:** August 31, 2004, 02:20:16 PM »

Jennifer all along I felt he should stay, even before 911. Did he have a career option if he left? To me it staying was more realistic guess because Keith’s job took him so far from home. The kids and I didn’t like it but it was his job

Jane · « **Reply #83 on:** August 31, 2004, 02:22:38 PM »

With Keith's permission.

Wishing

She's lying on the bed
Across the room
Sewing on a blue shirt,
Mending my abuses.
Now and then
She lifts her head
From what she's doing
And smiles at me.
I smile back.
She's beautiful you know.
There's a strange light
In her eyes;
Her child-laugh
And woman-look
Are enough to kill the thoughts
Of anyone
Or anything else.

I sit here
Wishing
To be a
Blue shirt.

June 1, 1970

Jane · « **Reply #84 on:** August 31, 2004, 02:28:18 PM »

Quote from: Jennifer on August 31, 2004, 02:14:00 PM

I think maybe part of my problem was that while Hayden's character was obviously wise beyond her years and very caring ... I still wonder how many kids would be that unselfish. I wasn't sure that I wanted her to give her father permission (maybe I was thinking that she would have simply accepted the fact, without it being her idea).

A couple of times my children gave Keith “permission” to move. I expect they regretted it later-but what’s a kid to do. Trying to change the situation was one way Hayden was unique.

Matt H. · « **Reply #85 on:** August 31, 2004, 02:33:53 PM »

The backstairs gossip at MONK about this is that all three supporting actors, Bitty, Ted, and George, were angling for raises (MONK has become the highest rated series on basic cable), and that in Bitty's case (perhaps because she asked for more since she is in more scenes), they weren't forthcoming with enough raise. Ted and George are returning.

Jrand74 · « **Reply #86 on:** August 31, 2004, 02:45:20 PM »

Applause for Keith and DRJANE

Jane · « **Reply #87 on:** August 31, 2004, 02:47:12 PM »

“Television networks are increasingly willing to take a hard line against raise-seeking actors who aren’t absolutely essential to the show.”

I think not only is she essential but the relationship between her son and Monk are some of the finer moments in the show. To me it is Lieutenant Randall Disher’s character that is often a silly weak link. Often he doesn’t need to be a regular on the show and I wonder why he is even there-like when they went to NY. I will admit his role in the last few episodes has been better than in the past.

Jrand74 · « **Reply #88 on:** August 31, 2004, 02:47:19 PM »

off to dinner and rehearsal.....whew! No more leads, let the young people have them...I want my old part back.

Last night, we were doing the last bit of THE NERD, and even though I was playing Rick, I couldn't remember anything but Axel's lines...and I played Axel in 1992! The set was the same and the blocking was similar....and it just sent me over the edge....whew....

Jane · « **Reply #89 on:** August 31, 2004, 02:48:38 PM »

Thank you JRand.

Have fun at rehearsal.

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