Topic: THE EPHEMERAL TIME (Read 6047 times)

George · « **Reply #90 on:** April 08, 2015, 04:03:53 PM »

4OUR!!

George · « **Reply #91 on:** April 08, 2015, 04:05:17 PM »

Quote from: Jane on April 08, 2015, 09:58:27 AM

From DR Ben:
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That wasn't what I meant by my comment. I know that Overdrive works with Kindle. I'm saying that Overdrive lets you return e-pub ebook files which are different from Kindle book files. You cannot return a Kindle ebook once it's checked out but you can return an e-pub book when you've finished it. It's why I will not take a Kindle ebook if I have a choice between Kindle and e-pub.

Got it. Yes, another reason I do not like using the Kindle app. I read a popular book in several days and then it sat there for the full 21 days. I felt very bad about this.

Well, I am a total goon! I guess I never looked into this, but I THOUGHT that Kindle e-books couldn't be returned (unless there was a change in policy at some point that I never heard about). Because of all this conversation here on HHW, I decided to speak with our library's e-book guru Liz, and she said that ALL formats can be checked in early! Although, how they're checked in is different for the different formats or the different reading devices. So, I CAN check out a library e-book for 7 days and download it through a USB cable (like I've been doing), and then instantly return it so that the title is instantly available for the next patron! And because I don't sync up my device to my account through Wi-Fi, it can stay on my device indefinitely. That's called workin' the system.

George · « **Reply #92 on:** April 08, 2015, 04:05:26 PM »

So thanks, Jennifer, for starting this whole conversation!

George · « **Reply #93 on:** April 08, 2015, 04:08:33 PM »

Wow! All of a sudden, there's a flash rain and hail storm here! It's been going on for about five minutes and it's loud!

George · « **Reply #94 on:** April 08, 2015, 04:09:14 PM »

It's slowing down and getting quieter, now. Darn. It was pretty cool while it lasted.

bk · « **Reply #95 on:** April 08, 2015, 04:11:52 PM »

Rehearsals went well. Had Bruce Vilanch, Devin Kelly and Timothy Omundson (from Galavant).

Jane · « **Reply #96 on:** April 08, 2015, 04:32:27 PM »

Quote from: George on April 08, 2015, 04:05:17 PM

Quote from: Jane on April 08, 2015, 09:58:27 AM
From DR Ben:
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That wasn't what I meant by my comment. I know that Overdrive works with Kindle. I'm saying that Overdrive lets you return e-pub ebook files which are different from Kindle book files. You cannot return a Kindle ebook once it's checked out but you can return an e-pub book when you've finished it. It's why I will not take a Kindle ebook if I have a choice between Kindle and e-pub.

Got it. Yes, another reason I do not like using the Kindle app. I read a popular book in several days and then it sat there for the full 21 days. I felt very bad about this.

Well, I am a total goon! I guess I never looked into this, but I THOUGHT that Kindle e-books couldn't be returned (unless there was a change in policy at some point that I never heard about). Because of all this conversation here on HHW, I decided to speak with our library's e-book guru Liz, and she said that ALL formats can be checked in early! Although, how they're checked in is different for the different formats or the different reading devices. So, I CAN check out a library e-book for 7 days and download it through a USB cable (like I've been doing), and then instantly return it so that the title is instantly available for the next patron! And because I don't sync up my device to my account through Wi-Fi, it can stay on my device indefinitely. That's called workin' the system.

That's great. You might want to test it first after you have read the book, just in case. Wait, never mind. I'm guessing you need more than a week to read the book

Jane · « **Reply #97 on:** April 08, 2015, 04:32:45 PM »

Quote from: George on April 08, 2015, 04:05:26 PM

So thanks, Jennifer, for starting this whole conversation!

George · « **Reply #98 on:** April 08, 2015, 04:33:42 PM »

Quote from: bk on April 08, 2015, 04:11:52 PM

Rehearsals went well. Had Bruce Vilanch, Devin Kelly and Timothy Omundson (from Galavant).

Cool! Timothy Omundson was also in "Psych"! I loved that show.

George · « **Reply #99 on:** April 08, 2015, 04:35:19 PM »

Quote from: Jane on April 08, 2015, 04:32:27 PM

Quote from: George on April 08, 2015, 04:05:17 PM
Quote from: Jane on April 08, 2015, 09:58:27 AM
From DR Ben:
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That wasn't what I meant by my comment. I know that Overdrive works with Kindle. I'm saying that Overdrive lets you return e-pub ebook files which are different from Kindle book files. You cannot return a Kindle ebook once it's checked out but you can return an e-pub book when you've finished it. It's why I will not take a Kindle ebook if I have a choice between Kindle and e-pub.

Got it. Yes, another reason I do not like using the Kindle app. I read a popular book in several days and then it sat there for the full 21 days. I felt very bad about this.

Well, I am a total goon! I guess I never looked into this, but I THOUGHT that Kindle e-books couldn't be returned (unless there was a change in policy at some point that I never heard about). Because of all this conversation here on HHW, I decided to speak with our library's e-book guru Liz, and she said that ALL formats can be checked in early! Although, how they're checked in is different for the different formats or the different reading devices. So, I CAN check out a library e-book for 7 days and download it through a USB cable (like I've been doing), and then instantly return it so that the title is instantly available for the next patron! And because I don't sync up my device to my account through Wi-Fi, it can stay on my device indefinitely. That's called workin' the system.

That's great. You might want to test it first after you have read the book, just in case. Wait, never mind. I'm guessing you need more than a week to read the book

Actually, I did have one book checked out and it did check in, both in my Amazon account and on the library's OverDrive page. It can be checked out right now.

Jane · « **Reply #100 on:** April 08, 2015, 04:38:03 PM »

Good.

KevinH · « **Reply #101 on:** April 08, 2015, 04:38:24 PM »

Hello!

KevinH · « **Reply #102 on:** April 08, 2015, 04:40:46 PM »

I'll have to look into borrowing books on my mini ipad. If I need advice, I'll know where to come!

Jane · « **Reply #103 on:** April 08, 2015, 04:52:09 PM »

LOL Kevin.

Ginny · « **Reply #104 on:** April 08, 2015, 05:11:43 PM »

Quote from: Jane on April 08, 2015, 03:04:23 PM

DR Ginny I feel bad for your niece and all those grieving

Thank you, DR Jane. I'd like to give Laura a big hug right now, but my phone call had to suffice...

Ginny · « **Reply #105 on:** April 08, 2015, 05:13:27 PM »

We have thunderstorms rolling through the area, so I think I'll sign off - bye for now!

Ben · « **Reply #106 on:** April 08, 2015, 05:15:28 PM »

Quote from: George on April 08, 2015, 04:05:17 PM

Quote from: Jane on April 08, 2015, 09:58:27 AM
From DR Ben:
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That wasn't what I meant by my comment. I know that Overdrive works with Kindle. I'm saying that Overdrive lets you return e-pub ebook files which are different from Kindle book files. You cannot return a Kindle ebook once it's checked out but you can return an e-pub book when you've finished it. It's why I will not take a Kindle ebook if I have a choice between Kindle and e-pub.

Got it. Yes, another reason I do not like using the Kindle app. I read a popular book in several days and then it sat there for the full 21 days. I felt very bad about this.

Well, I am a total goon! I guess I never looked into this, but I THOUGHT that Kindle e-books couldn't be returned (unless there was a change in policy at some point that I never heard about). Because of all this conversation here on HHW, I decided to speak with our library's e-book guru Liz, and she said that ALL formats can be checked in early! Although, how they're checked in is different for the different formats or the different reading devices. So, I CAN check out a library e-book for 7 days and download it through a USB cable (like I've been doing), and then instantly return it so that the title is instantly available for the next patron! And because I don't sync up my device to my account through Wi-Fi, it can stay on my device indefinitely. That's called workin' the system.

I hate to continue this conversation

but Anthony does NOT have the option of returning his Kindle books early. He has a Kindle Fire tablet and every Kindle book that he has put on his device stays there until the loan period is over. He doesn't use Overdrive since it's a Kindle device. Perhaps that's the issue. We assumed that since you can return e-pub books that you can return Kindles as well. We looked and looked and when he tried the first time to return a Kindle he got a message saying that Kindle books cannot be returned once they are on the device. They just fall off when the loan period is over.

ChasSmith · « **Reply #107 on:** April 08, 2015, 05:26:49 PM »

Very sorry to hear and read about the plane crash, DR Ginny.

George · « **Reply #108 on:** April 08, 2015, 05:45:15 PM »

Quote from: Ben on April 08, 2015, 05:15:28 PM

Quote from: George on April 08, 2015, 04:05:17 PM
Quote from: Jane on April 08, 2015, 09:58:27 AM
From DR Ben:
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That wasn't what I meant by my comment. I know that Overdrive works with Kindle. I'm saying that Overdrive lets you return e-pub ebook files which are different from Kindle book files. You cannot return a Kindle ebook once it's checked out but you can return an e-pub book when you've finished it. It's why I will not take a Kindle ebook if I have a choice between Kindle and e-pub.

Got it. Yes, another reason I do not like using the Kindle app. I read a popular book in several days and then it sat there for the full 21 days. I felt very bad about this.

Well, I am a total goon! I guess I never looked into this, but I THOUGHT that Kindle e-books couldn't be returned (unless there was a change in policy at some point that I never heard about). Because of all this conversation here on HHW, I decided to speak with our library's e-book guru Liz, and she said that ALL formats can be checked in early! Although, how they're checked in is different for the different formats or the different reading devices. So, I CAN check out a library e-book for 7 days and download it through a USB cable (like I've been doing), and then instantly return it so that the title is instantly available for the next patron! And because I don't sync up my device to my account through Wi-Fi, it can stay on my device indefinitely. That's called workin' the system.

I hate to continue this conversation but Anthony does NOT have the option of returning his Kindle books early. He has a Kindle Fire tablet and every Kindle book that he has put on his device stays there until the loan period is over. He doesn't use Overdrive since it's a Kindle device. Perhaps that's the issue. We assumed that since you can return e-pub books that you can return Kindles as well. We looked and looked and when he tried the first time to return a Kindle he got a message saying that Kindle books cannot be returned once they are on the device. They just fall off when the loan period is over.

Does Anthony search for titles on his Kindle Fire? After checking out and downloading a title, I logged into my Amazon account (I do this through my computer), went to "Manage Your Content and Devices," and there is a list of all my titles, including e-books from the library. There's a column labeled "Action" and if you click that box next to the title, it should have an option to "Return this book." I clicked on that, I got the message, "Are you sure you want to return this Library Loan Ebook?" I clicked Yes and it was "Successfully returned." I went to my library's OverDrive site for that title and it's again available for the next patron.

George · « **Reply #109 on:** April 08, 2015, 05:48:22 PM »

In other words, I just found out that I can return my library Kindle books, but through my account on Amazon, not through my device (if I had the Wi-Fi turned on), and not through my account on OverDrive.

ChasSmith · « **Reply #110 on:** April 08, 2015, 06:01:05 PM »

Dinner, pan-fried in olive oil:

http://us.bibigo.com/products/19

And a Manhattan. Perfect combination. (Always loved any kind of Chinese/Asian food with a Manhattan.)

ChasSmith · « **Reply #111 on:** April 08, 2015, 06:08:26 PM »

I'm not saying it can compete with a Lawn Guyland diner feast. No sirree.

But what could? I ask you.

Jennifer · « **Reply #112 on:** April 08, 2015, 06:11:33 PM »

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LOL I didn't know you could borrow books from Amazon. I thought you had to purchase them.

You can borrow lendable e-books from someone who has purchased the e-book. They can be lent once for 14 days.

Barnes and Noble also does that though the books are rarely something I want to lend.

Did you mean the book are rarely something you want to borrow?

I have lent and borrowed a lot of e-books. and there are tons more than i want to read that are lendable.

Lend or borrow and there aren't very many of them to even have the option. There were more when I first got my Nook.

I'm confused. Why would there be an e-book that you wouldn't want to lend? There are tons at amazon that are lendable.

Can you lend all the e-books you purchase? Of the books I purchase there are very few that offer the option to lend them. I'm sure there are more, I just don't seem to buy them.

Not all of them, but a lot of them. Plus I am lucky because I have a book friend who buys a lot of e-books and generously offers me first dibs at all the ones that are lendable.

Jennifer · « **Reply #113 on:** April 08, 2015, 06:14:35 PM »

DR George wrote:

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Does Anthony search for titles on his Kindle Fire? After checking out and downloading a title, I logged into my Amazon account (I do this through my computer), went to "Manage Your Content and Devices," and there is a list of all my titles, including e-books from the library. There's a column labeled "Action" and if you click that box next to the title, it should have an option to "Return this book." I clicked on that, I got the message, "Are you sure you want to return this Library Loan Ebook?" I clicked Yes and it was "Successfully returned." I went to my library's OverDrive site for that title and it's again available for the next patron.

This is exactly how i return my borrowed kindle e-books early, thru amazon on my computer not directly on my kindle.

Jennifer · « **Reply #114 on:** April 08, 2015, 06:15:55 PM »

Quote from: George on April 08, 2015, 05:48:22 PM

In other words, I just found out that I can return my library Kindle books, but through my account on Amazon, not through my device (if I had the Wi-Fi turned on), and not through my account on OverDrive.

Yes i bet if Anthony went on his computer and into his amazon account he could return his kindle library books. it's on amazon's site as well.

George · « **Reply #115 on:** April 08, 2015, 06:23:06 PM »

Well, I need to leave work and run a couple of errands before I go home. Tonight, I need to do some laundry before we start the third weekend of "Laughing Stock" tomorrow night. I don't have any of my costume pieces, so I don't have to worry about that...I just need some clean clothes.

Be back later.

Jane · « **Reply #116 on:** April 08, 2015, 06:28:46 PM »

Quote from: Ben on April 08, 2015, 05:15:28 PM

Quote from: George on April 08, 2015, 04:05:17 PM
Quote from: Jane on April 08, 2015, 09:58:27 AM
From DR Ben:
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That wasn't what I meant by my comment. I know that Overdrive works with Kindle. I'm saying that Overdrive lets you return e-pub ebook files which are different from Kindle book files. You cannot return a Kindle ebook once it's checked out but you can return an e-pub book when you've finished it. It's why I will not take a Kindle ebook if I have a choice between Kindle and e-pub.

Got it. Yes, another reason I do not like using the Kindle app. I read a popular book in several days and then it sat there for the full 21 days. I felt very bad about this.

Well, I am a total goon! I guess I never looked into this, but I THOUGHT that Kindle e-books couldn't be returned (unless there was a change in policy at some point that I never heard about). Because of all this conversation here on HHW, I decided to speak with our library's e-book guru Liz, and she said that ALL formats can be checked in early! Although, how they're checked in is different for the different formats or the different reading devices. So, I CAN check out a library e-book for 7 days and download it through a USB cable (like I've been doing), and then instantly return it so that the title is instantly available for the next patron! And because I don't sync up my device to my account through Wi-Fi, it can stay on my device indefinitely. That's called workin' the system.

I hate to continue this conversation

Jane · « **Reply #117 on:** April 08, 2015, 06:32:26 PM »

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Can you lend all the e-books you purchase? Of the books I purchase there are very few that offer the option to lend them. I'm sure there are more, I just don't seem to buy them.
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Not all of them, but a lot of them. Plus I am lucky because I have a book friend who buys a lot of e-books and generously offers me first dibs at all the ones that are lendable.
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You are lucky to have a generous friend. I have lent and borrowed, and I can tell my Nook friends that I have a book for them to borrow. DR td had sent me books to read but that was when he worked for B&N. He isn't as active on Goodreads either so I'm guessing along with not posting here he is not reading as much as well.

Jennifer · « **Reply #118 on:** April 08, 2015, 07:10:13 PM »

DR Jane, when you said that 137 e-books are lendable are you saying that you think that is how many e-books B&N has that are lendable?

That can't be. I'm pretty sure that most e-books that are lendable on amazon are also lendable on B&N.

Jennifer · « **Reply #119 on:** April 08, 2015, 07:18:01 PM »

I see that you can search lendme's on B&N (don't think you can do this for amazon). But i wouldn't do it anyways.I just look at the books that i want to read and the books people in my book groups are talking about and i check if those are loanable.

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