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NOVEMBER, WE HARDLY KNEW YE
« on: November 29, 2004, 11:59:12 PM »

Well, you've read the notes, you know the deal,  you know the routine, you know the thing, and now it is time for you to post until the cows, whom we hardly knew, to come home.
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« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2004, 12:15:19 AM »

What kind of a fershluganah name is Acker Bilk? For one thing, it's backwards. It should be Bilk Acker. That sounds much better.
That's all I have to say about instrumental music for now.
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« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2004, 12:16:54 AM »

My cousin in Switzerland sent me a box of champagne truffels as a housewarming gift. It arrived today. I've eaten almost half the box, dear readers. Somebody stop me!
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« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2004, 12:18:57 AM »

And continuing in my chocolate induced monologue... I received good news today. I got my next writing gig. And a good on it is, too.
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Re:NOVEMBER, WE HARDLY KNEW YE
« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2004, 12:19:00 AM »

Instrumentals?  Nothing personal, but I was never a fan of instrumental music in general...still ain't (I like vocals).  There are some that I really like, but they're usually instrumental versions of vocal music.  Like the Sondheim Suite of Dances that was arranged/orchestrated for the Book of the Month Records Sondheim recording.  But that's not a "pop instrumental," so it doesn't count for today's Topic of the Day.

One that I did like growing up was the disco version of the theme from "Close Encounters of the Third Kind."  I remember buying that vinyl album when I was in high school and inside the big album there was a 7 inch record that had the disco version, which wasn't on the regular album at all.  I didn't understand that at the time....that it was a bonus mini-album.  I haven't checked but as far as I know, I still have it.
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« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2004, 12:20:31 AM »

And continuing in my chocolate induced monologue... I received good news today. I got my next writing gig. And a good on it is, too.

Congratulations!! ;D ;D
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« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2004, 12:23:36 AM »

Instrumentals:

Wonderland By Night - Bert Kaempfert
Theme from "East Of Eden" - Dick Jacobs
Maria Elena - Los Indios Tabajaras
Third Man Theme - Anton Karas
Tracy's Theme - Spencer Ross
Terry's Theme from "Limelight" - Frank Chacksfield
Albatross - Fleetwood Mac
Petite Fleur - Chris Barber
Look For A Star - Billy Vaughn

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« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2004, 12:25:21 AM »

Great news DR Panni. Congratulations. Nobody knows the truffles you've seen.
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« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2004, 12:25:25 AM »

Now it's almost 12:30 a.m. and I have to pay my bills.  I pay most of them on-line, but individually at each utility's website.  Otherwise, I only write two checks a month (for bills).  So, goodnight all!
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« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2004, 12:27:10 AM »

Okay, I also did like Frank Mills' "Music Box Dancer."  I learned to play this when I took piano lessons...low these many years ago (t's been almost 20 since I had actual lessons).  I couldn't play it now to save my life.  Oh, well! ::)
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« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2004, 04:53:15 AM »

The power of the Internet? Remember DerB's popcorn-stuffing recipe? The one that Danise e-mailed to her friends? Today it was e-mailed to me - verbatim - from a friend in Honey Harbour, Ontario.
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« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2004, 04:58:20 AM »

As a yoot, I also enjoyed listening to "instrumentals." One of my favorites was a Mantovani LP that featured Oliver on one side, and Stop the World I Want to Get Off on the other.
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Re:NOVEMBER, WE HARDLY KNEW YE
« Reply #12 on: November 30, 2004, 05:24:00 AM »

The only instrumental that comes to mind right now is "Popcorn" from the 70s.  Urk!
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« Reply #13 on: November 30, 2004, 05:34:33 AM »

Okay, that solid steel door on that part of my brain just squeeked open a bit and I remember two more:  "Love Is Blue" and the Theme to Zeffirelli's Romeo and Juliet (not sure if that was actually called "A Time for Us" or not.)
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Re:NOVEMBER, WE HARDLY KNEW YE
« Reply #14 on: November 30, 2004, 05:43:31 AM »

Good morning, all!  I just finished reading the remainder of yesterday's posts, so I wanted to add one more great Christmas play I cannot believe I forgot:
THE BUSINESS OF GOOD GOVERNMENT by John Arden, a British one-act published in the late 1960s by Grove Press; King Herod's dilemma:  it's the business of good government to ensure peace on earth, but it's just not possible.  It's a wondefyl piece.

Secondly, Nurse Jane, I'm sending out good vibes and wishes for Echo!  I may even go over to the Catholic Church across the street and light a candle!

Today's topic:  the first instrumentals I remember hearing are "Cherry Pink and Apple Blossom White" and "The Poor People of Paris."  I believe my favorite, which got some airplay in the mid-1960s, is the Boston Pops wonderful version of "I Want to Hold Your Hand."



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Re:NOVEMBER, WE HARDLY KNEW YE
« Reply #15 on: November 30, 2004, 05:44:28 AM »

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Stressed?  Moi?  Why, I've never been more relaxed in my life!   ;)

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« Reply #16 on: November 30, 2004, 05:47:53 AM »

Vibes to Echo from Marty

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« Reply #17 on: November 30, 2004, 05:48:33 AM »

Vibes to Echo from Mikey

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« Reply #18 on: November 30, 2004, 05:49:14 AM »

Vibes to Echo from Bonnie

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« Reply #19 on: November 30, 2004, 05:49:43 AM »

Vibes to Echo from Buster

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« Reply #20 on: November 30, 2004, 05:50:27 AM »

Vibes to Echo from Fletcher

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« Reply #21 on: November 30, 2004, 05:51:07 AM »

Vibes to Echo from Zeus

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« Reply #22 on: November 30, 2004, 05:51:43 AM »

And, of course, vibes to Echo from me!

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« Reply #23 on: November 30, 2004, 05:56:51 AM »

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For some reason, the only pop instrumentals I can remember were by Herb Alpert and the Tijuana Brass.  I still like the theme from Casino Royale.
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« Reply #24 on: November 30, 2004, 06:05:32 AM »

I remember one Christmas at work, when I put together a tape of Christmas music from my collection of holiday CDs.  Some of the women I worked with were furious with me, absolutely furious, because the entire tape was instrumentals.  They Wanted VOCALS!

Can you guess how impressed I was by their expressions of displeasure?   :-\

(For what it's worth, all I had in my collection at the time were instrumentals.   8))

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« Reply #25 on: November 30, 2004, 06:11:40 AM »

Well, my faves were already mentioned:  Theme from "A Summer Place," and just about anything by Herb Alpert and the TB (but especially "Casino Royale" and "Spanish Flea").  If they count, I would also like to include "String of Pearls" and "In the Mood."  I know there are lyrics to "In the Mood," but it seems more famous in its instrumental version.  And I seem to remember a treasure trove (or at least a Reader's Digest collection) of things by Percy Faith, Kostelanetz, the Boston Pops, and possibly Mantovani being played in our house as a youth.
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« Reply #26 on: November 30, 2004, 06:12:23 AM »

Oh, and congratulations to DR Panni on her new gig.
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« Reply #27 on: November 30, 2004, 06:22:40 AM »

And vibes to DR Jane's dear canine, Echo.
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« Reply #28 on: November 30, 2004, 06:41:16 AM »

Okay, I also did like Frank Mills' "Music Box Dancer."

I met a boy named Frank Mills on September 12th, right here in front of the Waverly.  But unfortunately I lost his address.
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« Reply #29 on: November 30, 2004, 06:45:01 AM »

DR Jose asked many questions about my pork roast. I will try to answer.

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Was it a pork loin roast?

1 1/2 hours sounds like it should have done the trick, but there are some variables to consider.

What temperature did you cook it at?
-I've been using the method suggested in The Joy of Cooking where you start the roast off at 450F for the first fifteen minutes, and the lower the over to 250F for another hour and a half or so.  PLUS, then letting the roast rest to finish cooking outside the oven - residual hear and all.  And that's usually for a five-pounder.

What kind of pan did you cook it in?
-If the sides are too high, then the heat cannot circulate properly around the roast.  The size of the roasting pan is usually not a major factor, but sometimes...

Did you take the roast right from the fridge and put it in the preheated oven?
-Now this is something I've learned over the past few years, and I've finally learned to "deal with it", and let all my fears dealing with food safety go by the wayside...  When cooking a chunk of meat - whether it's beef, lamb, pork, even turkey and chicken - it helps to let the piece of meat warm up a little bit before placing it in the oven.  I'm not saying to leave it out until it comes to room temperature, but just long enough to take the chill off the outside.  This way the piece of meat and the oven doesn't go into "shock".  Does this make sense?  And sometimes, a very cold piece of meat can cook all right on the outside, but the inside may still be underdone at the same time.

Did you use a marinade or rub?
-Just curious.

And when you say "way underdone" do you mean as is visibly still raw, or with just a bit of pink in it?
-I like my pork on the pink side - as long as the internal temp is around 155-160.  The USDA recommended temps of 170-185, just simply ruin a good cut of pork.  Again, a good rest after the pork comes out of the oven is a good thing.  Just take the pork out of the oven when it's around 148-150, tent it with foil, then let it sit on the counter for about 10-15 minutes.  -You can make the gravy during that time!  The roast should come up to temperature as it sits.

I cooked it at 350F.  And yes I had a marinade and kept taking it out to baste it.  Also (and I'm not sure if this was a factor), but the person I was cooking it for was late.  So I took the roast out of the oven completely for like 25 minutes in the middle.  Is that very bad?

It was a regular roasting pot (not high edges) and sitting on a metal roasting rack.

Yes, I did take it out of the fridge first, but only for like 20 minutes.

Yes, it was underdone as in raw near the bone.  And I don't have an oven thermometer.  Is that something I need?

Thanks for your help.  I rarely cook roasts.  So I figured 1 1/2 hours seemed like plenty of time! :(
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