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« Reply #60 on: January 26, 2005, 06:42:25 AM »

My Ask bk question  is Why, oh, why do they no longer make movies that the whole family can enjoy?

Movies like  ":The Russians Are Coming" or  "Support Your Local Sheriff"  or  "Support Your Local Gunfighter"  Why do they have to always add "language" or unnecessary (to the storyline)  sex scenes??????  

And (Part II)

 Why, oh , why do current filmmakers feel the need to put some disgusting "sight gag" in kids' movies? Can't they make an amusing kids' movie without having some one vomit all over the car or have a bird leave droppings on someone's head?

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« Reply #61 on: January 26, 2005, 06:42:54 AM »

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« Reply #62 on: January 26, 2005, 06:44:26 AM »

Will American Idol Fave Diana DeGarmo Be Beauty and the Beast's Next Belle?

http://www.broadway.com/gen/Buzz_Story.aspx?ci=505809

My first thought is she seems too young to do this.
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« Reply #63 on: January 26, 2005, 06:45:05 AM »

Whew!  What an amazing collection of notes/posts/photos since last I was here!

Chooster is back, and all is right with the world!  Yay!

(BTW, DR Panni, DC -- dear canine, in HHW-speak -- Morgan often sits in the position in which your Abie was so perfectly captured.  We are always thrilled when she then decides to rest her chin on the ottoman -- footrest, not empire -- that sits in front of the couch on which her tush is precariously perched.  I love that dog!)

Two more character actors from yesterday:  Jack Carson, Simon Oakland.  (And I am embarassed that I did not come up with Maureen Stapleton.  I love Maureen Stapleton.)

Favorite Character Actor packed movie:  Pick any one of the 70s disaster pics.

No question for BK quite yet.
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« Reply #64 on: January 26, 2005, 06:45:43 AM »

DR Danise  congrats on Bonnie!! May I borrow her until the snow goes away?   :)




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« Reply #65 on: January 26, 2005, 06:48:15 AM »

Thank you, DR Jose, for the comments on the HDMI connection. Anything else your brother has to offer would be greatly appreciated.
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« Reply #66 on: January 26, 2005, 06:48:51 AM »

just for you  dear bk!

"whole cloth" (notes by Ellen Rosen)

(Phrase Origins)



   The phrase "made out of whole cloth" (and variants) currently
means "utterly without foundation in fact, completely fictitious."
MWCD10 gives only this sense for "whole cloth" and dates it 1840.
The phrase did not always have this connotation, however.

   The OED has citations for "whole cloth" from 1433 on.  Its first
definition is "a piece of cloth of the full size as manufactured,
as distinguished from a piece that may be cut off or out of it for
a garment, etc."  This sense is still used by people who sew or
quilt, who use "whole cloth" to mean "uncut fabric".

   The OED also gives several citations for the phrase "cut (or
made) out of whole cloth".  The earliest citation is from 1579.
These citations indicate that for roughly 300 years, the phrase was
used to connote entirety, but not falsehood (an example from 1634:
"The valiant Souldier ... measureth out of the whole cloath his
Honour with his sword". This positive sense of "whole cloth"
persisted in England until at least the beginning of this century
(a citation from 1905: "That Eton captain is cut out of whole cloth;
no shoddy there".)

   Before the Industrial Revolution, few people had ready access to
whole cloth.  Cotton had to be picked (or sheep sheared); the cotton
or wool had to be washed and picked over; the material had to be
spun into thread, and the thread woven into cloth.  Cloth was
therefore precious and frequently reused.  A worn-out man's shirt
would be cut down to make a child's shirt; the unworn parts of a
woman's skirt would be reused to make quilts; etc.  Also, homespun
fabric was not very comfortable to wear.  Even after the Industrial
Revolution, ready-made whole cloth was sufficiently expensive that
many people could not afford to use new cloth for everything.

   Therefore, to have a piece of clothing made out of whole cloth
must have been very special, indeed:  something new, not something
hand-me-down; something that hadn't been patched together from
disparate, often unmatched pieces; maybe even something comfortable.
So describing something as being made from whole cloth would mean
that it had never existed as a garment before, and that it was
something special, something wondrous -- one's Sunday best, or
better.

   The meaning of the phrase "made out of whole cloth" appears to
have begun to change in the United States in the first half of the
19th century.  The OED labels the falsehood sense "U.S. colloquial
or slang", and provides a citation from 1843:  "Isn't this entire
story ... made out of whole cloth?"  The change of meaning may have
arisen from deceptive trade practices.  Charles Earle Funk suggests
that 19th-century tailors advertising whole cloth may really have
been using patched cloth or cloth that was falsely stretched to
appear to be full-width.

   Alternatively, the modern figurative meaning of "whole cloth"
may depend on a lie's having sprung whole _ex nihilo_, having no
connection with existing facts.  All-newness distinguishes garments
and lies made out of whole cloth.  This is a positive characteristic
for clothes, but not for the average tissue of lies and deception.


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« Reply #67 on: January 26, 2005, 06:49:45 AM »

I think it's so funny that the AMERICAN IDOL judges consistently dismiss singers as being "too Broadway" when several of their finalists have ended up in Broadway shows or in tours of Broadway musicals.
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« Reply #68 on: January 26, 2005, 06:50:31 AM »

Chooster's return was a nice surprise. Hope to see him pop up again from time to time.
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« Reply #69 on: January 26, 2005, 06:51:32 AM »

I'm going to opt to watch HOME ON THE RANGE today instead of SILVERADO. It's not as long and as today is going to be busy around here, I need a brief DVD.
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« Reply #70 on: January 26, 2005, 06:52:05 AM »

movie quote: "Oh, Gerry, let's don't ask for the moon. We have the stars."
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« Reply #71 on: January 26, 2005, 06:54:32 AM »

Chooster's return was a nice surprise. Hope to see him pop up again from time to time.

I think what you meant to say, DR Matt, was

Chooster is back! All is right with the world!!

Or am I mistaken?  ;D
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« Reply #72 on: January 26, 2005, 06:59:35 AM »

Good Morning!

Chooster is back!  All is right with the world!!!

-I will now be able to face the day with a smile in my heart.

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« Reply #73 on: January 26, 2005, 07:01:02 AM »

Thanks to the DR who mentioned Lee Patrick last night. (Was it you, DR JRand?) I can't believe I forgot about her, but she was always one of my favorites from the Warner stable of character performers.
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« Reply #74 on: January 26, 2005, 07:04:01 AM »

Well, matinee in two hours...

My father actually went into work today to help out.  I thought I had had heard him earlier, around 6:30 walking around, but I figured he was just up early today.  Well, by the time I got up, it turned out he had gone into work.  My Mom took the day off - well, she's at home at least.  I think she'll be doing her monthly ordering of supplies for the nursing home today.  Always much quieter here than at her office.
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« Reply #75 on: January 26, 2005, 07:05:23 AM »

Chooster is back! All is right with the world!!
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« Reply #76 on: January 26, 2005, 07:05:46 AM »

Well, matinee in a little less than two hours...

In other news...  Well, there really isn't any other news right now...  Besides, all that matters is that Chooster is back!  All is right with the world!!!
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« Reply #77 on: January 26, 2005, 07:06:13 AM »

Well, matinee in.... (you know the drill by now...)

Laters...
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« Reply #78 on: January 26, 2005, 07:06:30 AM »


Hi, DR DAN(the man)! Looking forward to your “my boom”.

Hi, DR Hisaka!  I think my boom for today will be listening to my library of pop music from the 80s on my iPod.  Cyndie Lauper!  Ah-Ha!  Adam Ant!  The Go-Go's!  Howard Jones!  And, of course, Boy George and Culture Club!  Oh, what a time it was!

Hisaka, do you have any pop music favorites?
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« Reply #79 on: January 26, 2005, 07:07:46 AM »

DR Jose how is your weather?  The loacl weather forecasters threatened us with another 3 - 6 inches  of snow between 1 am and this morning but all we saw was a light dusting,   the clouds look omnious however.....
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« Reply #80 on: January 26, 2005, 07:09:11 AM »

I wonder if today will mark the return of DR WFO?  I know today is the start of classes...........
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« Reply #81 on: January 26, 2005, 07:20:12 AM »

A question of the day.

Who are some of your favorite comedy duos?

For me:

Nichols and May
Bob and Ray
Wayne and Chooster Shuster
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« Reply #82 on: January 26, 2005, 07:24:10 AM »

Chooster is back! All is right with the world!!

I now have two tickets to DR Penny's show on Saturday, March 19th at 8pm. We are in Row D. I think they are seats 5 and 6. Hoo and Ray!

I saw Lone Star Love yesterday. It's a lot of fun. You get to eat before the show, in the theatre. The cast ladles out potato salad and baked beans and corn bread and mini hot dogs and cookies and lemonade, both pink and regular. The show, as I've said, is based on Merry Wives of Windsor. It's set in post-Civil War Windsor, Texas. The Red Clay Ramblers wrote and perform the music and the cast gets to sing some nice numbers. The show follows the plot pretty much with Falstaff being a disgraced Confederate Soldier who slinks away to Windsor, Texas. He meets Mrs. Page and Mrs. Ford and tries to woo them both. It's a raucous evening with lots of slapstick and some very good performances by Jay O. Sanders as Falstaff and Drew McVity as Dr. Caius.

We were hoping to see After the Ball this evening but we are not sure if it will happen. Since it's closing this weekend it seems to be selling out and we don't know if we will get tickets for tonight. We will try for Saturday and Sunday afternoon if we don't get to see the show tonight.

No questions.

Later, Gaters.
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« Reply #83 on: January 26, 2005, 07:24:36 AM »

I'll be seeing a local play today, Da Kink In My Hair, and will report on it afterward.

Here's a preview:

My great granny always said, 'If you want to know a black woman, you touch her hair.' She said that is where we carry everything - all our hopes, our dreams, our pain."
        - Novelette, in 'da Kink in my Hair

Set in a West Indian hair salon in Toronto, 'DA KINK IN MY HAIR gives voice to a group of women who tell us their unforgettable, moving and often hilarious stories. Mixing laughter and tears - and told in words, music and dance - the stories explore the hardship, struggles and joys of black women's lives.
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« Reply #84 on: January 26, 2005, 07:31:57 AM »

A question of the day.

Who are some of your favorite comedy duos?

For me:

Nichols and May
Bob and Ray
Wayne and Chooster Shuster


Burns & Allen
Flanders and Swann
Crosby & Hope (the Road movies)
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« Reply #85 on: January 26, 2005, 07:42:14 AM »

DR MBarnum: I think I've posted about Godzilla films before… I know Godzilla series is one of Japanese legendary movies…..but, sorry, I’m not a big fan of it, though I think a son of Godzilla, Minilla, is cute.  You’re a real fan of Japanese films!  Now I know you have enough knowledge of Japanese films, better than me, because of a number of names of Japanese actors and actresses you’ve gave on your posts so far.  Well, I’d tell my favorite Japanese actor is…. Toshiro Mifune who is known as a favorite actor of Akira Kurosawa and others, as you know. I like all his films, especially Rashomon and The Bad Sleep Well. And Keiko Kishi is my favorite actress all the time. She’s so attractive. In Ten Black Women, her performance starkly sparkles among other beautiful and character actresses.  That film is not much serious for the suspense, but is rather seasoned with humor. What kind of Japanese movie do you like, besides Godzilla films?


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« Reply #86 on: January 26, 2005, 07:44:27 AM »

Hoo and Ray!! Chooster is back, and all is right with the world!

My question for Ask BK Day:

Who is Jordan Bennett? And why didn't he show up for his latest concert?
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« Reply #87 on: January 26, 2005, 07:47:55 AM »

A question of the day.

Who are some of your favorite comedy duos?

Peter Cook and Dudley Moore
Stiller and Meara
The Smothers Brothers
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« Reply #88 on: January 26, 2005, 07:59:49 AM »

DR Hisaka

I have a questions for you.  Do you know anything about a series of films about a blind Samurai?  Sometimes they show the films on Saturday morning and my husband loves them.  I was wondering if you know anything about them  such as , could you tell me the name of the series and if any of the films are available on DVD region 1?
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« Reply #89 on: January 26, 2005, 08:00:42 AM »

Peter Cook and Dudley Moore


I love the "The Frog and the Peach!!!" sketch
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