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[Jrand74]

Yes DR VIXMOM - that ANNIE.

[ChasSmith]

Speaking of the good, bad, and ugly, this was brought to my attention last week and it's well worth a look and a listen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkM71JPHfjk

[Jrand74]

Page Two Carroll Baker Dance.

[ChasSmith]

I just realized something funny about that performance of the Morricone:  it begins in the "Carmina Burana Key" of D minor.  Oy! 

A silly observation, but there it is.

EDIT:  I'm no expert on how close this orchestration with the vocals and all is to Morricone's original. It sure sounds authentic to my ears, but credit for orchestration is given to some of these people, so who knows.

[Jrand74]

Adding to the discussion that MR BK & DR DRUXY were having yesterday.....

I don't mind dramatic license.....but making up stuff is a bad way to do.....I think Peter Finch's character in THE LEGEND OF LYLAH CLARE talked about this.....he was changing the way someone died and when someone objected he said something like: "Once the movie comes out, that's the way people will think it happened."

Once something is on film or in a book, a lot of people think it's so.....

Many folks still think Jean Harlow died of pneumonia....because it said so in the movie....

[Jrand74]

That was an entertaining link DR CHAS SMITH

[ChasSmith]

TOD

I haven't yet watched the notorious Episode 5 of FOSSE/VERDON, so that's on the boards for this evening. I'm just as glad to know in advance that it's pure horse manure.

[elmore3003]

Adding to the discussion that MR BK & DR DRUXY were having yesterday.....

I don't mind dramatic license.....but making up stuff is a bad way to do.....I think Peter Finch's character in THE LEGEND OF LYLAH CLARE talked about this.....he was changing the way someone died and when someone objected he said something like: "Once the movie comes out, that's the way people will think it happened."

Once something is on film or in a book, a lot of people think it's so.....

Many folks still think Jean Harlow died of pneumonia....because it said so in the movie....

Much of it has to do with the fact that real biography is not as dramatically written as a play or filmscript.  I've seen too many film bios that have little to do with the main character's original life.  Onstage, the 1920s Romberg operetta Blossom Time, supposedly based on the life of composer Franz Schubert, used the plot of Cyrano de Bergerac, and ends with Schubert writing "Ave Maria" and dying of unrequited love for the leading lady.  There's absolutely no mention that Schubert was gay or that the romantic leading man was supposedly the true object of Schubert's desire in the Viennese inner brotherhood.

[elmore3003]

I very much liked the book Fosse, the basis for this TV series, which I will most likely never see, but I remember absolutely no implications that Ms Verdon was ever romantically involved with anyone but Bob. Curiously, the book names many of his conquests from Janet Leigh to Raquel Welch, but there's no mention of the gossip I heard over thirty years ago that there was much casting couch activity and group sex.

[elmore3003]

I must get to the post office, bank, and pharmacy.

[elmore3003]

Last night I finished the memoir of Leonie Orton, sister of playwright Joe Orton.  I had read John Lahr's edition of the Orton Diaries thirty years ago, but I did not know that Orton's agent Peggy Ramsay, was responsible for the disappearance of all the original Orton diaries.  Only a photocopy exists.

[Jane]

Also, the baby learned to crawl a couple days ago.

Awww 😊

[Druxy]

Here's the trailer for my new play, CLOWNS ON THE GROUND.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xIqu1MpDpo

[Jane]

Adding to the discussion that MR BK & DR DRUXY were having yesterday.....

I don't mind dramatic license.....but making up stuff is a bad way to do.....I think Peter Finch's character in THE LEGEND OF LYLAH CLARE talked about this.....he was changing the way someone died and when someone objected he said something like: "Once the movie comes out, that's the way people will think it happened."

Once something is on film or in a book, a lot of people think it's so.....

Many folks still think Jean Harlow died of pneumonia....because it said so in the movie....

These are perfect examples of the diffetence between dramatic license and lying.

[Druxy]

Adding to the discussion that MR BK & DR DRUXY were having yesterday.....

I don't mind dramatic license.....but making up stuff is a bad way to do.....I think Peter Finch's character in THE LEGEND OF LYLAH CLARE talked about this.....he was changing the way someone died and when someone objected he said something like: "Once the movie comes out, that's the way people will think it happened."

Once something is on film or in a book, a lot of people think it's so.....

Many folks still think Jean Harlow died of pneumonia....because it said so in the movie....

These are perfect examples of the difference between dramatic license and lying.

I guess this conversation is going to continue.

I think if you are true to the characters and the facts, yet put them into a "fictional situation," like the beach house in FOSSE/VERNON, that is "dramatic license".

If you make up the facts, that is "lying".

Forgive me for plugging my new play, but this is a perfect example of what we are talking about.

In CLOWNS ON THE GROUND, Milton Berle, Joe E. Brown and Bert Lahr are "forced" to spend time together in the V.I.P. Lounge of a Chicago airport during a major storm that has grounded all planes.  As far as I know, that never happened.

However, all the facts about their personal lives and their contentious relationships toward each other has been well researched and is true.

That's dramatic license.

[John G.]

Good morning, all.

[John G.]

TOD:

I’ve got the following from the library that need to be watched:

If Beale Street Could Talk
The Favourite
Stan and Ollie
Vagabond

[elmore3003]

Back from all errands.  I need to put my meds together for the next two weeks and try out this new allergy prescription.

[elmore3003]

One of my favorite rescue groups is looking for a home for Teddy, a 9-week-old border collie-beagle mix.  I am in love!

[elmore3003]

DR Ginny, have you thought about seeing You're A Good Man, Charlie Brown at the Playhouse in the Park? Lauren Molina, who played Belle in Desperate Measures, is playing Lucy.

[Jane]

Adding to the discussion that MR BK & DR DRUXY were having yesterday.....

I don't mind dramatic license.....but making up stuff is a bad way to do.....I think Peter Finch's character in THE LEGEND OF LYLAH CLARE talked about this.....he was changing the way someone died and when someone objected he said something like: "Once the movie comes out, that's the way people will think it happened."

Once something is on film or in a book, a lot of people think it's so.....

Many folks still think Jean Harlow died of pneumonia....because it said so in the movie....

These are perfect examples of the difference between dramatic license and lying.

I guess this conversation is going to continue.

I think if you are true to the characters and the facts, yet put them into a "fictional situation," like the beach house in FOSSE/VERNON, that is "dramatic license".

If you make up the facts, that is "lying".

Forgive me for plugging my new play, but this is a perfect example of what we are talking about.

In CLOWNS ON THE GROUND, Milton Berle, Joe E. Brown and Bert Lahr are "forced" to spend time together in the V.I.P. Lounge of a Chicago airport during a major storm that has grounded all planes.  As far as I know, that never happened.

However, all the facts about their personal lives and their contentious relationships toward each other has been well researched and is true.

That's dramatic license.

I may be wrong but it seems as if you are missing the point.  Dramatic license placing them in the airport, however, if you told a lie regarding how these people died (since that example has been used), and then called that lie "dramatic license" IMHO it would be wrong.

[Jane]

DR elmore, that is a cutie.

[Laura]

Teddy is adorable. He should go fast.

[ChasSmith]

OMG, is he ever.
How could they fail to place him within ... oh, minutes?   

[George]

Speaking of the good, bad, and ugly, this was brought to my attention last week and it's well worth a look and a listen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkM71JPHfjk

That was pretty cool.

[George]

Adding to the discussion that MR BK & DR DRUXY were having yesterday.....

I don't mind dramatic license.....but making up stuff is a bad way to do.....I think Peter Finch's character in THE LEGEND OF LYLAH CLARE talked about this.....he was changing the way someone died and when someone objected he said something like: "Once the movie comes out, that's the way people will think it happened."

Once something is on film or in a book, a lot of people think it's so.....

Many folks still think Jean Harlow died of pneumonia....because it said so in the movie....

Much of it has to do with the fact that real biography is not as dramatically written as a play or filmscript.  I've seen too many film bios that have little to do with the main character's original life.  Onstage, the 1920s Romberg operetta Blossom Time, supposedly based on the life of composer Franz Schubert, used the plot of Cyrano de Bergerac, and ends with Schubert writing "Ave Maria" and dying of unrequited love for the leading lady.  There's absolutely no mention that Schubert was gay or that the romantic leading man was supposedly the true object of Schubert's desire in the Viennese inner brotherhood.

And then there's Words and Music, the VERY "Fictionalized story of the songwriting partnership of Richard Rodgers and Lorenz Hart."

[George]

One of my favorite rescue groups is looking for a home for Teddy, a 9-week-old border collie-beagle mix.  I am in love!

So cute!!

[elmore3003]

Adding to the discussion that MR BK & DR DRUXY were having yesterday.....

I don't mind dramatic license.....but making up stuff is a bad way to do.....I think Peter Finch's character in THE LEGEND OF LYLAH CLARE talked about this.....he was changing the way someone died and when someone objected he said something like: "Once the movie comes out, that's the way people will think it happened."

Once something is on film or in a book, a lot of people think it's so.....

Many folks still think Jean Harlow died of pneumonia....because it said so in the movie....

Much of it has to do with the fact that real biography is not as dramatically written as a play or filmscript.  I've seen too many film bios that have little to do with the main character's original life.  Onstage, the 1920s Romberg operetta Blossom Time, supposedly based on the life of composer Franz Schubert, used the plot of Cyrano de Bergerac, and ends with Schubert writing "Ave Maria" and dying of unrequited love for the leading lady.  There's absolutely no mention that Schubert was gay or that the romantic leading man was supposedly the true object of Schubert's desire in the Viennese inner brotherhood.

And then there's Words and Music, the VERY "Fictionalized story of the songwriting partnership of Richard Rodgers and Lorenz Hart."

And Cary Grant as Cole Porter!

[bk]

Adding to the discussion that MR BK & DR DRUXY were having yesterday.....

I don't mind dramatic license.....but making up stuff is a bad way to do.....I think Peter Finch's character in THE LEGEND OF LYLAH CLARE talked about this.....he was changing the way someone died and when someone objected he said something like: "Once the movie comes out, that's the way people will think it happened."

Once something is on film or in a book, a lot of people think it's so.....

Many folks still think Jean Harlow died of pneumonia....because it said so in the movie....

These are perfect examples of the difference between dramatic license and lying.

I guess this conversation is going to continue.

I think if you are true to the characters and the facts, yet put them into a "fictional situation," like the beach house in FOSSE/VERNON, that is "dramatic license".

If you make up the facts, that is "lying".

Forgive me for plugging my new play, but this is a perfect example of what we are talking about.

In CLOWNS ON THE GROUND, Milton Berle, Joe E. Brown and Bert Lahr are "forced" to spend time together in the V.I.P. Lounge of a Chicago airport during a major storm that has grounded all planes.  As far as I know, that never happened.

However, all the facts about their personal lives and their contentious relationships toward each other has been well researched and is true.

That's dramatic license.

I may be wrong but it seems as if you are missing the point.  Dramatic license placing them in the airport, however, if you told a lie regarding how these people died (since that example has been used), and then called that lie "dramatic license" IMHO it would be wrong.

You're not wrong, he's completely missing the point. 

[bk]

Adding to the discussion that MR BK & DR DRUXY were having yesterday.....

I don't mind dramatic license.....but making up stuff is a bad way to do.....I think Peter Finch's character in THE LEGEND OF LYLAH CLARE talked about this.....he was changing the way someone died and when someone objected he said something like: "Once the movie comes out, that's the way people will think it happened."

Once something is on film or in a book, a lot of people think it's so.....

Many folks still think Jean Harlow died of pneumonia....because it said so in the movie....

These are perfect examples of the difference between dramatic license and lying.

I guess this conversation is going to continue.

I think if you are true to the characters and the facts, yet put them into a "fictional situation," like the beach house in FOSSE/VERNON, that is "dramatic license".

If you make up the facts, that is "lying".

Forgive me for plugging my new play, but this is a perfect example of what we are talking about.

In CLOWNS ON THE GROUND, Milton Berle, Joe E. Brown and Bert Lahr are "forced" to spend time together in the V.I.P. Lounge of a Chicago airport during a major storm that has grounded all planes.  As far as I know, that never happened.

However, all the facts about their personal lives and their contentious relationships toward each other has been well researched and is true.

That's dramatic license.

I guess your idea of dramatic license is to willfully keep calling this show Fosse/Vernon even though you've been corrected on this point.  I don't know what Fosse/Vernon is - I'm watching a show called Fosse/VerDon.