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« Reply #30 on: April 19, 2005, 06:17:05 AM »

Is it BRIGHT EYES where she sings "Oh My Goodness"? That is an amazing number where she is singing to all her dolls and switching accents depending on what doll she is singing to.

Thanks MBarnum for the Wheeler and Woolsey heads-up. Must record that.
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« Reply #31 on: April 19, 2005, 06:17:57 AM »

I am happy to report that my favorite 3 Stooges movie is coming to DVD June 28th! THE THREE STOOGES MEET HERCULES co-starring my interviewee Samson Burke as Hercules, and also co-starring the cute Vicki Trickett!

SNOW WHITE AND THE THREE STOOGES is also releasing on DVD very soon...another favorite!
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« Reply #32 on: April 19, 2005, 06:19:04 AM »

In fact Rodzinski, it looks like a whole night of Wheeler and Woolsey! There will be several W&W films that night.
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« Reply #33 on: April 19, 2005, 06:21:11 AM »

Good morning all

I was a great fan of Shirley Temple movies as a child.  Back in the day, we had a fabulous little privately owned video store in Ellensburg which had all those lesser known and older titles that one cannot usually find these days.  Among my favorites were -

Rebbeca Of Sunnybrook Farm
Heidi
Curly Top
Bright Eyes

My dad used to tease me mercilessly for watching those movies
Okay, off to work...
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« Reply #34 on: April 19, 2005, 06:23:17 AM »

I was writing about things that had happened on certain dates for one of our hockey publications. I wrote, "Willie O'Ree, first black man to play in the NHL" and the editor at the time changed it to "African American", even though the guy was Canadian.

What JRand calls the "retro-PC" is so annoying, like how you can't watch a lot of shows and movies from the past because they do not reflect current thinking.
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« Reply #35 on: April 19, 2005, 06:29:22 AM »

Excellent! Wheeler and Woolsey Fever! I know DIXIANA has color in it, but I'm not sure about THE CUCKOOS.

THE STERILE CUCKOO does indeed have color though.
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« Reply #36 on: April 19, 2005, 06:29:53 AM »

Hi Ann!
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« Reply #37 on: April 19, 2005, 06:46:32 AM »

One of the worst examples of "retro-PC" was Disney keeping Dumbo from distribution for years because the crows were thought to be offensive, particularly their accents.  Well, the crows happen to be the hippest, most intelligent characters in the movie.  But nobody seemed to notice that.

Also, the film of Porgy and Bess didn't preserve the original authentic accents used in the stage version for the same reason.

And heaven forbid we should stage The Merchant of Venice or Kiss Me, Petrucchio without holding a seminar on Shakespeare's antisemitism and "male chauvinism".  That is a curious term, to say the least.  How many people abbreviate it to "chauvinism" without knowing what that term means?  Chauvin must be rolling in his grave.
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« Reply #38 on: April 19, 2005, 06:48:54 AM »

Jules Feiffer did a cartoon several PC cycles ago about the history of vocabulary, in sum:

"We find the term Black offensive.  We wish to be called Colored."

"We find the term Colored offensive.  We wish to be called Negro."

"We find the term Negro offensive.  We wish to be called Black."
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« Reply #39 on: April 19, 2005, 06:49:44 AM »

Or as Pat Paulsen said, "I'm not White.  I'm sort of Pink to Beige."
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« Reply #40 on: April 19, 2005, 06:57:03 AM »

My favorite Shirley Temple movie is HEIDI, and luckily for me it is available on DVD (though admittedly a slapdash, ported-from-videotape dirty transfer).

I think she gives her best performance in THE LITTLE PRINCESS and her most atypical one in THE BLUE BIRD, both of which cry out for a deserved DVD transfer from original materials. (I refuse to buy any of those public domain DVDs of THE LITTLE PRINCESS. I have a Fox authorized videotape of THE LITTLE PRINCESS, and it's spectacularly gorgeous.)

I love "You've Got to S-M-I-L-E" from STOWAWAY. As many here know, the song was used behind the main titles of MYRA BRECKINRIDGE, but seeing the originally filmed version in STOWAWAY is a joyous experience.
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« Reply #41 on: April 19, 2005, 07:01:58 AM »

There are several CD compilations of Shirley's soundtrack songs available for purchase. I also have two LPs on the Movietone label that features soundtrack songs from Shirley's films. I sometimes put them on and listen to all of them when my spirits need a lift. She's not the greatest singer in the world, but there's something about her manner and delivery that just puts a smile on my face. It's easy to see why she was the world's #1 box-office star from 1935-1938.
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« Reply #42 on: April 19, 2005, 07:03:48 AM »

Just read the VARIETY review of THE LIGHT IN THE PIAZZA. It's a very mixed review with the book by Craig Lucas getting more plaudits than Adam Guittel's "soupy, unsatisfying" music.
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« Reply #43 on: April 19, 2005, 07:30:14 AM »

DR JOEY just sang the Lawrence Welk sign off song.  I have no response to that.  It was last sung on live television before he was born.

PBS was always my favorite channel growing up.  ;D
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« Reply #44 on: April 19, 2005, 07:34:53 AM »

They still show the Welk reruns on a lot of PBS stations too.
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« Reply #45 on: April 19, 2005, 07:41:48 AM »

One of the worst examples of "retro-PC" was Disney keeping Dumbo from distribution for years because the crows were thought to be offensive, particularly their accents.  Well, the crows happen to be the hippest, most intelligent characters in the movie.  But nobody seemed to notice that.

Don't forget Song of the South.
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« Reply #46 on: April 19, 2005, 07:54:26 AM »

As for Shirley Temple, I have a long-standing affection for Kiss and Tell. ...It was so naughty.  I mean, if you are in an Oklahoman conservative Lutheran family, Shirley's father's misconception that she is (Shh!)  pregnant was terribly racy stuff.

The funniest scene is when Shirley's boyfriend Dexter Franklin (Jerome Cortland) has accidentally slapped Shirley and goes to her father (Walter Abel) to apologize.  Father, of course, thinks he is refering to the other thing, and we have a string of increasingly funny doubles-entendres similarly to Tevyeh talking to the butcher about his cow/daughter.

And just imagine.  That was little Shirley Temple.
And for some reason I've now mentally got Maurice Chevalier singing "Thank Heavens For Little Girls...for little girls get bigger every day!"
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« Reply #47 on: April 19, 2005, 08:00:44 AM »

Yes, the entire situation concerning SONG OF THE SOUTH has been particularly galling for many years, all because of the PC climate that seems to vary from one movie to another.

And now that Disney's studio vaults are empty of classics (once CINDERELLA gets released this fall on DVD for the first time), the studio has now decided the film can be released with an appropriate "introduction" before the main feature.
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« Reply #48 on: April 19, 2005, 08:04:49 AM »

Good Morning!

Yeah!  I actually made it out of bed before Noon!  And I actually managed to book two gigs too this morning!  Well, I got a call for the National Teacher Awards next week, and I got the final confirmation for my full week ofMamma Mia! here in Richmond.

Hoo and Ray!

It's another gorgeous day here in Richmond, with rain and storms predicted for tomorrow and the rest of the week.  I have one load of laundry finishing up in the washer, and I'll probably put another one in, but then I think I'll take the rest of the day off.  Get outside for a while.  I'll take advantage of the bad weather tomorrow to take care of my packing and sorting and throwing away of various things.

-Hey, sounds like a plan to me.
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« Reply #49 on: April 19, 2005, 08:06:53 AM »

Yes, the entire situation concerning SONG OF THE SOUTH has been particularly galling for many years, all because of the PC climate that seems to vary from one movie to another.

I just found a possible glimmer of hope! http://www.jimhillmedia.com/mb/articles/showarticle.php?ID=1313
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« Reply #50 on: April 19, 2005, 08:07:03 AM »

Hmmmm...

Is it white?

Is it black?

Is it gray?

???

Or is it just the Conclave of Cardinals cooking their breakfast in the Vatican?

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« Reply #51 on: April 19, 2005, 08:10:54 AM »

Supposedly all the Catholic churches around the world are supposed to ring their bells when the pope is elected, but we have no bells. My suggestion was to set up the 12 inch speakers in the windows of the second floor and play a recording of bells.  ::)
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« Reply #52 on: April 19, 2005, 08:13:13 AM »

...And while I don't agree with President Bush that frivolous lawsuits are the cause of our medical insurance or prescription drug problems, I do agree that frivolous lawsuits are frivolous.  No one should be able to sue McDonald's because they spill the coffee they ordered on themselves or because they're shoving the fast food into their faces.
I agree with you on the latter half of your statement here, CP, but feel obligated to disagree with the first half simply due to my personal experience.  Working in the Workers Compensation Insurance field as I did for over twenty years, I repeatedly saw cases where we would find that a lawyer (or team) would track down workers who had recently been laid off (most often workers who had been hired short term), send them to a doctor (another part of the team) who would put together a WC claim, and then they would sue the insurance companies.  The insurance companies, rather than fight the frivolous lawsuits, would simply pay off the claims.  This wouldn't have been so bad, but we're talking about hundreds of frivolous claims being paid off in this manner...which of course ended up impacting the insurance rates.  Thanks to improved computer comparisons on these claims, we were able to gather enough evidence to close down some of these scams, but the effort didn't come cheap (and I personally pulled hundreds of files so that we could gather the hard copies our lawyers needed to take to court with them).  This was barratry we were fighting, pure and simple...but in reality quite impure and complicated to prove as hell!
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« Reply #53 on: April 19, 2005, 08:18:28 AM »

The bells are ringing, and the smoke has shifted from black to white.

If the Vatican were located somewhere in the United States, someone would be suing them for noise and air pollution.

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« Reply #54 on: April 19, 2005, 08:18:34 AM »

It was White!

-Ring them bells!

-Could that be considered un-PC?
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« Reply #55 on: April 19, 2005, 08:23:52 AM »

I don't know about anybody else, but this Anglo-Irish-Dutch American (yeah, that's right, AIDA...make something of it!!!) has about had it with all the PC nonsense.

I'm pretty much calling things as I sees 'em these days...and PC police be damned.
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« Reply #56 on: April 19, 2005, 08:23:58 AM »

DR JRand - Thank you for the movie titles.

As for whether it was "The Littlest Rebel" or "The Littlest Colonel"....Which one dealt with a daughter wanting to marry?  And maybe some bad guys trying to scheme the family out of some money?

Hmmm...

-With my luck, both movies probably had both elements.

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« Reply #57 on: April 19, 2005, 08:24:11 AM »

Oh...ummm...

...good morning, everyone.   :-*
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« Reply #58 on: April 19, 2005, 08:33:36 AM »

Oh...ummm...

...good morning, everyone.   :-*

"everyone"?  Are you being PC by using "everyone"?

;)

And I take offense at "Good Morning" since it is clearly past Noon here on the East Coast.

Harumpphhhhhhh!

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« Reply #59 on: April 19, 2005, 08:50:44 AM »

Woody, I don't disagree with your findings of frivolous claims and ambulance chasing lawsuits.  These are both bad and should be eliminated, of course.  What I disagree with is the President's claim that these are what was running up insurance claims and medical costs.  The figures during the election showed this to actually be something like one or two percent of the reason for escalating medical costs.  And on the other side of that were doctors who left sponges inside people after operations.  One of these people the Republicans held up as a doctor who's practice was being hurt by frivolous lawsuits when, in fact, he had had two lawsuits where he was clearly at fault and had done something in both cases exactly like the above mentioned sponge sewn in the body.  

But the bottom line is that though these abuses to the system exist, they are not the main reasons behind raising medical costs and insurance.
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