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« Reply #180 on: December 24, 2023, 04:21:53 PM »

The Goodreads scandal, a bit long. From today’s New York Times:

But first, the scandal: “Internet sleuths figured out that an author named Cait Corrain, whose debut novel was scheduled for 2024, had created fake accounts on Goodreads in order to review-bomb other books — overwhelming them with negative one-star reviews. When confronted online, she concocted a fake online chat to divert blame to a nonexistent friend; when that hoax was uncovered, she confessed, citing a “complete psychological breakdown.” Her publisher and her agent dropped her; the planned publication of her novel was canceled. As often happens in these scandals, the use and abuse of Goodreads — a site whose cheery name masks a recent history of abhorrent user behavior — has left many people hurt and at least one person’s career in ruins.”

That is a scandal for sure.  I'm not sure this is the fault of Goodreads.  I think they should remove ratings by people who don't read a book, or rate the book before it is published because the premise offends them. 
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« Reply #181 on: December 24, 2023, 04:22:52 PM »

Wise words from Freddie:

“You can’t push a door that says PULL”.

Even funnier in the original context.
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« Reply #182 on: December 24, 2023, 04:23:22 PM »

SEVEN!

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« Reply #183 on: December 24, 2023, 04:24:23 PM »

Freddie, I frequently have my comments published online, depending on the moderator.

Sometimes, they deem my responses and opinions to be too controversial.
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« Reply #184 on: December 24, 2023, 04:25:54 PM »

Have not commented in the MD section, just Opinion and Front Page news.
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« Reply #185 on: December 24, 2023, 04:27:41 PM »

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« Reply #186 on: December 24, 2023, 04:31:43 PM »

Jane, here is the conclusion and suggestion on how to fix the problem.

“So how to fix it? It starts with people: Goodreads desperately needs more human moderation to monitor the goings-on. Obviously, part of any healthy discussion is the ability to express displeasure — those one-star reviews, ideally accompanied by well-argued rationales, are sacrosanct — but Goodreads has enabled the weaponization of displeasure.

It’s not just fledgling authors being pummeled. Earlier this year, Elizabeth Gilbert, the best-selling author of “Eat, Pray, Love,” decided to withdraw a forthcoming novel, “The Snow Forest,” after Goodreads users bombarded its page with one-star reviews objecting primarily to the fact that the novel (which no one had yet read) was set in Russia and would be published at a time when Russia and Ukraine were at war. There is most likely no way to eliminate personal attacks entirely from the site — or from the internet, for that matter — but having more human beings on hand to mitigate the damage would certainly improve the experience.”

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« Reply #187 on: December 24, 2023, 04:36:44 PM »

JRand, I’m glad that you have many cousins.
I hope you get together often.
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« Reply #188 on: December 24, 2023, 04:37:02 PM »

BK, glad you’re feeling better.
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« Reply #189 on: December 24, 2023, 04:38:03 PM »

Larry, congrats on your sold out performance!

And, sending lots of get well vibes. ❤️
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« Reply #190 on: December 24, 2023, 04:48:28 PM »

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« Reply #191 on: December 24, 2023, 04:59:07 PM »

Jane, here is the conclusion and suggestion on how to fix the problem.

“So how to fix it? It starts with people: Goodreads desperately needs more human moderation to monitor the goings-on. Obviously, part of any healthy discussion is the ability to express displeasure — those one-star reviews, ideally accompanied by well-argued rationales, are sacrosanct — but Goodreads has enabled the weaponization of displeasure.

It’s not just fledgling authors being pummeled. Earlier this year, Elizabeth Gilbert, the best-selling author of “Eat, Pray, Love,” decided to withdraw a forthcoming novel, “The Snow Forest,” after Goodreads users bombarded its page with one-star reviews objecting primarily to the fact that the novel (which no one had yet read) was set in Russia and would be published at a time when Russia and Ukraine were at war. There is most likely no way to eliminate personal attacks entirely from the site — or from the internet, for that matter — but having more human beings on hand to mitigate the damage would certainly improve the experience.”


Thanks Iris.  It seems like a good solution, and sadly it is necessary.

I recall the story about Gilbert pulling the book.  While not a fan of hers I was tempted to read the book because of the protests.

I've seens readers calling out the impossibility of writing a bad review on books that haven't been published yet and wondered why Goodreads didn't remove them.
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« Reply #192 on: December 24, 2023, 05:00:44 PM »

One really needs to use their brain when reading reviews and ratings.  I often find a poor review will give me reasons to read the book, and a high review reasons why not to read it.
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« Reply #193 on: December 24, 2023, 05:01:54 PM »

Sometimes half way through a book I will return to the reviews to help me decide if I really want to finish reading the book ;D
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« Reply #194 on: December 24, 2023, 06:33:19 PM »

All caught up.
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« Reply #195 on: December 24, 2023, 06:33:30 PM »

It was a long day, and I am glad to be home.
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« Reply #196 on: December 24, 2023, 06:33:57 PM »

DR Jane, condolences to you and your families on the loss.
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« Reply #197 on: December 24, 2023, 06:35:28 PM »

It was a long day, and I am glad to be home.

Hoping it was pleasant overall, though.
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« Reply #198 on: December 24, 2023, 06:37:18 PM »

As a youngster, I used to sing a late late service on Christmas Eve, then come home and watch the service from the Vatican.
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« Reply #199 on: December 24, 2023, 06:37:39 PM »

Now, I'm just an old poop that turns into a pumpkin at 8:30pm.
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« Reply #200 on: December 24, 2023, 06:38:22 PM »

Brahms celebrating Christmas with cats:
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« Reply #201 on: December 24, 2023, 06:45:15 PM »

Someone at the church was handing out free kits, so tomorrow I may make a gingerbread house.
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« Reply #202 on: December 24, 2023, 06:45:56 PM »

 :)
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« Reply #203 on: December 24, 2023, 06:46:11 PM »

Or perhaps I'll make a house out of cheese.
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« Reply #204 on: December 24, 2023, 06:46:18 PM »

And then eat it.
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« Reply #205 on: December 24, 2023, 06:47:01 PM »

Slept for four hours.
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« Reply #206 on: December 24, 2023, 06:47:07 PM »

Camel overpass - on their way to the manger.
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« Reply #207 on: December 24, 2023, 06:47:45 PM »

Had two helpings of tuna pasta salad. I have to say, nothing is tasting very good to me.
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« Reply #208 on: December 24, 2023, 06:48:12 PM »

I miss having everyone here.
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« Reply #209 on: December 24, 2023, 06:48:52 PM »

Condolences to Jane and Keith.
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