As to the debate - I don't do political, BUT - the Democrats do love to eat their own, just like they did with Al Franken. The media was reprehensible, especially Joy Reid, who should be ashamed of herself, and who spent much of the following day trying to walk back what she'd done in as subtle a way as possible. The hand-ringing on Facebook was nauseating and, amusingly, forgotten by most who were doing it as soon as Governor Newsom and Obama and Lawrence O'Donnell chimed in as the voices of reason. One debate, especially a first debate, does not an election made. It was also the lowest ratings for a debate in decades. Trump did not gain a single vote, I can assure you - nor do I think Biden lost any. And the next day, Biden gave a fiery and VERY coherent speech and he was clearly feeling better after some sleep and his cold getting better. But there are still normally start people calling for him to step down from running - THAT is how you lose an election. There's no stepping down, there's not a single viable replacement with the amount of time remaining, and these normally smart people better flush their nauseating negativity right down the drain.