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[singdaw]

But it's not a very good one.

[singdaw]

PAGE FOUR

[Laura]

Elmore, I'm so glad Val stopped by and that Annabelle remembered him and loved on him.

[Freddie]

I watched the Turtles documentary and I can happily report that the pair of keets are in love with their music.

[Freddie]

I wonder how the pair of keets would respond to the music of The Byrds.

[bk]

Up again. Maybe close to six hours of sleep.

[bk]

Thanks to elmore for the two albums. mp3s are fine at this point - I listened to a few tracks from both and whoever mixed these should never be allowed in a recording studio again. The vocals are so far under the band it's a joke. Listen to the opening of Worst Pies in London - you can barely hear her. I will never ever understand it. I could probably help it in the mastering - it also doesn't help that every song seems to be at a different audio level. It's shocking because these are well-known people who worked on these. In the credits, is there a producer listed?

[ChasSmith]

I just retrieved the 2 LP box sets. Hang on, taking a look...

[ChasSmith]

Sondheim -
Recording Producer & Engineer:  Max Wilcox

NY -
Recording Producers:  Judith Sherman and John McGlinn

[elmore3003]

Thanks to elmore for the two albums. mp3s are fine at this point - I listened to a few tracks from both and whoever mixed these should never be allowed in a recording studio again. The vocals are so far under the band it's a joke. Listen to the opening of Worst Pies in London - you can barely hear her. I will never ever understand it. I could probably help it in the mastering - it also doesn't help that every song seems to be at a different audio level. It's shocking because these are well-known people who worked on these. In the credits, is there a producer listed?

I did not work on the Sondheim, so Im no help there.  My friend Judy Sherman was producer on the Songs of New York. That's where we met.

[elmore3003]

Sondheim -
Recording Producer & Engineer:  Max Wilcox

NY -
Recording Producers:  Judith Sherman and John McGlinn

You must have the booklets for both albums, thank God! I have both CD sets but no booklets. I  gave the New York Songs booklet to McGlinn's sister Lorin after he died.

I believe Max Wilcox was Judy Sherman's first husband.

[elmore3003]

I love Newsom's Trump mockery. I hope they give Trump a stroke.

[ChasSmith]

Sondheim -
Recording Producer & Engineer:  Max Wilcox

NY -
Recording Producers:  Judith Sherman and John McGlinn

You must have the booklets for both albums, thank God! I have both CD sets but no booklets. I  gave the New York Songs booklet to McGlinn's sister Lorin after he died.

I believe Max Wilcox was Judy Sherman's first husband.

Wow. The plot thickens.

I remembered Max Wilcox's name from many RCA albums.

Yes, these are the booklets. They're 5 1/2" x 8 1/2". If needed by anyone, I can scan them later, probably this evening.

[ChasSmith]

Actually, scratch that. I can do it right now. Back in a bit.

[ChasSmith]

Done, and emailed to BK and DR Elmore.

(Both give the BOMC catalog numbers for LP, cassette, and CD, something I hadn't noticed before. My bad.)

[bk]

I do not understand what I'm hearing then. I'll listen to more tracks, but I cannot stand when the vocals are buried beneath the band - that's just not how it's done and I don't care who is the doer.

[bk]

Or the doner.

[bk]

Thanks for the booklets.

[bk]

But with mastering technology today, it could definitely be helped. I have no idea HOW these were recorded but it would not surprise me in the least to find it was direct to two-track. This was long before we came up with the way we did things, which then everyone pretty much copied.

[George]

BK, those two recordings were Book-of-the-Month Club, not Time Life. Several years ago, I contacted BOMC, and the people I spoe to seemed to have no knowledge of the recordings.

Yesterday, I found my CD copy of the Sondheim Book-of-the-Month Club recording!

[Jane]

There's no question we grew up on grape jelly with the peanut butter.

I don't think we ever had grape, or any jelly in the house. 

[Jane]

We mostly ate preserves or jam.  My mother had her English Robertson's marmalade.

[Jane]

 My favorite was plum preserves. 

[Jane]

Can’t send kids to school with peanut butter or almond butter these days. Sunflower butter is ok, but my kids aren’t into any nut butters anyway, so they get grilled cheeses I make each morning.

As vegetarians that would have been difficult for me.  I never thought to make grilled cheese sandwiches to be eaten cold.

[Jane]

Can’t send kids to school with peanut butter or almond butter these days. Sunflower butter is ok, but my kids aren’t into any nut butters anyway, so they get grilled cheeses I make each morning.

But the cautions re: nuts these days. Holy moly, it's a different world out there. Not having kids, one does not think of so many of these things.

I was lucky my nut allergy was only an issue if I ate the nuts, not touched the residue.

[John G.]

Because of the references to grilled cheese, I had a cup of grilled cheese and bacon soup with lunch. The soup was not as good as the bacon.

[Jane]

In Ashland a woman and her son hiked with my group one summer.  She had to ask if Echo's dog treats were peanut butter.  They were so we had to make sure Echo avoided the woman's son.  After the first time I did not take peanut butter treats.  I also liked to take peanut butter and apricot preserve sandwiches for a snack.  I took wipes to clean my hands well.

[Jane]

Annie Lamott had a bit in her book on writing about the times when Dad would make PB&J sandwiches. They were always strange. He would use apricot jam or something that weirded her out. It was a discussion that would always get people talking.

That is funny.  I doubt I would have liked apricot jam when I was young.  As an adult I find it good, and it doesn't drip and stain clothes.

[Jane]

I used Lamott’s story while talking with people at an assisted living facility. All of the people were Depression Era kids. Their dads never made a sandwich—ever. And they were lucky to have a sandwich at all. And they didn’t want to remember those days.

Interesting.

[Jane]

I'm sure my father never made me a sandwich.  I recall making sandwiches for him.