Was it S. Woody or der Brucer who thought I should use my noggin' and take the 134 to the I5 instead of going through Hollywood and downtown on the 101. Well, now we can tell whoever it was why: I tried that route today and it added a bloody fifteen minutes to the drive. While it's much faster to get to the Stadium Way off ramp just before downtown, going through downtown is much more horrid than going through Hollywood and downtown to junction to the 5 there. It's so long to reach the same place where you come out going through downtown that you lose whatever time you initially gained, and then it adds another fifteen minutes just dealing with literally stand-still traffic for about eight miles on a section of the 5 you never even see when you go through downtown.