I had a very interesting phone conversation with my 83 year old father last night. When I was in college and protesting the Vietnam situation, my father, a WW2 navy vet, had a heavy "my country right or wrong" attitude, and at one point he threw me and my friends out of "his" house for wearing black arm bands after the Kent State shootings! Well, he's done a complete reversal, hates the Irag conflict, and wants the US out of there. I was very proud of him.