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Re:AN OPEN BRAIN
« Reply #150 on: September 21, 2007, 07:54:09 AM »

AND?
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Re:AN OPEN BRAIN
« Reply #151 on: September 21, 2007, 07:55:03 AM »

As if by Wizardry-PAGE SIX
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« Reply #152 on: September 21, 2007, 07:59:01 AM »

We want the Brain to take over the world, so hopefully Florida will be part of it.
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« Reply #153 on: September 21, 2007, 08:08:18 AM »

Very happy to hear things came off as well as they did for your opening night. Hopefully, there wil be no second night letdown.
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« Reply #154 on: September 21, 2007, 08:11:13 AM »

I did get my ANNE OF THE THOUSAND DAYS/MARY QUEEN OF SCOTS combo DVD set yesterday as well as some Blu-ray discs, and no time to watch very many of them at the moment. Very frustrating.

After I finish with 3 PENNY OPERA today, I have to start right in on MARTHA GRAHAM ON FILM, and I'm expecting the WHAT ABOUT BRIAN TV box set either today or tomorrow, too. Whew!
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Re:AN OPEN BRAIN
« Reply #155 on: September 21, 2007, 08:12:40 AM »

Condolences to any fans of Robert Jordan's epic fantasy series The Wheel of Time.  His untimely death at the age of 58 this past week leaves readers of the 11-volume series without the conclusion.

Not necessarily...he knew he was dying and apparently was dictating a final novel to his wife.

Hopefully she will arrange to have the series concluded instead of continuing to milk it.
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Re:AN OPEN BRAIN
« Reply #156 on: September 21, 2007, 08:13:49 AM »

Regarding the FSM brouhahah BK addressed earlier:

YEs, I was having a go-round with the poster known as "altamese".  The center of debate is a poster who, for the second time in recent months, decided to assign "credit" for a score to additional personages other than the one credited.   While this may or may not be the case, this individual could not offer anything other than his word for it.  And as fine a producer of film score recreations as he is, he is not an infallible font of information about whether someone's contributions to a score merit "credit" alongside the credited composer's.  At any rate, in a series of posts, he worked himself up to a multi-pragraphed ode to himself.  In this, his 7th post to the thread, he made a bid for martyrdom, lit a self-built pyre and seemingly self-immolated, all the while proclaiming that the subject was about the "music" at hand, not himself who was so wrongly being attacked.  It was in this thread that he distinctly declared that a second composer OUGHT to have been credited alongside the credited composer.  In film music, this is a HUGE statement.  It is, in effect, the same thing as saying that the uncredited composer was robbed of his due.

After a couple of other responses, I entered the fray, commenting I was bemused and referred to him as  "Saint David" (first name of this individual is David).  I suggested that his post was Saint David's way of sticking his tongue out at us.  I then added some cogent suggestions for how he should proceed if he wanted folks to believe his assertions that an uncredited composer should have received credit.

Yesterday, altamese began chiding me for my nasty comments ("Saint David" is the ONLY name-calling, if one wants to call it that, I indulged in), expressed displeasure with my "tongue sticking out" comment,  and said I was putting words in this man's mouth...that he never said anything like what I said he said.

Turns out, altamese declared that "Saint David" (she did not use that term) NEVER said anything like that in his initial post.  Further, altamese declared that BK and I had been cutting down Saint David from his first post.

I took serious issue with altamese over this.  Of course, that degenerated the discussion into a pissing contest.  My entry into the thread was on page 2 (50-plus posts into the thread, if I'm not mistaken).  And I had to point out that the comments I objected to were in the 7th post Saint David made, not the preceding ones which, as BK pointed out, spoke for themselves in view of previous threads.

Now I can truly see how someone stumbling across this thread might react to seeing one poster being the recipient of many negative responses.  I can truly understand how they might be motivated to enter the fray and stand up to what he or she perceives to be an unusual amount of negativism toward that one person.   But, when not only several forum members BUT ALSO the forum's owner and moderator indicate their own scepticism toward this one poster, it would seem to me logical that the newcomer should reassess taking any stance until he or she learns more about what is going on.

At any rate, I regret NOT ONE WORD I posted to that thread.  Other than the snarky "Saint David" reference, which was an honest reaction to that self-serving seventh post but something I should probably have refrained from saying, I stand by my every reaction to his posts and responses to same.
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Re:AN OPEN BRAIN
« Reply #157 on: September 21, 2007, 08:18:05 AM »

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Re:AN OPEN BRAIN
« Reply #158 on: September 21, 2007, 08:21:23 AM »

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Words to live by!

 Only, I can't seem to master the genre. I do enjoy reading it from others as long as I'm not the target!   ::)
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Re:AN OPEN BRAIN
« Reply #159 on: September 21, 2007, 08:21:58 AM »

Now I'm heading down so I can clean up to run my usual Friday errands.

WBBL.
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Re:AN OPEN BRAIN
« Reply #160 on: September 21, 2007, 08:23:58 AM »

Just to add one more thing - I have many times been accused of being, well, let's put it kindly, a curmudgeon on that board.  And sometimes it's been true, although not without cause.  More often than not, it's not true and it's the same five people doing the accusing even though when I ask them to quote one instance of my terrible behavior they cannot do it.  They just ignore it and continue their mantra.  Fortunately, the board owner knows what's going on as does the moderator.  It took the latter a while to see it, but see it he has because with this particular guy it got so bloody obvious.  

Unfortunately, what no one really knows is that the martyr in question has an agenda with someone other than me, but he somehow thinks I'm tied into it - he's wrong, he's apologized to me privately for insinuating that I was tied into it, but continues down this paranoid road publicly.  If I printed this man's insane e-mails to me or if I finally tell everyone what this is really about and how nuts this guy really is, it will all become very clear to everyone just what is going on.
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Re:AN OPEN BRAIN
« Reply #161 on: September 21, 2007, 08:24:01 AM »

The oddest thing happened - 3DDiffusion went over to the FSM board, where, if I correctly read his response here, he posted in the thread that I'd begun about Robinson Crusoe On Mars.  I didn't know it was him (if it was him) and it did look to me like the guy who was muddying waters again had created yet another username to clap himself on the back (he has at least one besides his own).  

Yes it was me, and I am a woman, not a man, Bruce, and in my opinion you were out of line there.  And I thought you'd already responded to me about this a couple of days ago.

I'd repost the entire thread over there - I have it from your initial post to that of someone named Howard L., who posted at 3 am on Sept 19, but I see no point in doing so, because as you've just demonstrated, you dont' think you were out of line. .... and as my argument over there with Ron showed, he didnt' think he was out of line either when he clearly was  - in my opinion.

As with my disagreement with Ron, we will just have to agree to disagree because there's no point saying "Yes you were, no I wasn't" for five interminable pages.

But I will say that as someone coming fresh to that thread, the guy in no way tried to hijack the thread. I appreciate you've had some history with him and he apparently likes to show off his knowledge...well, so what? Isnt' that what message boards are for?
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Re:AN OPEN BRAIN
« Reply #162 on: September 21, 2007, 08:26:27 AM »

Well, the snarky-may-care attitude is something, I guess, one is born with.  It's not for everyone.

But then, some folks can sing and dance up a storm.  The rest of us....well.....

And then there are those with twinkling fingers who turn pianos into symphonies....

And "creative souls" who turn notes into dazzling, sonorous flights of fancy...

Sigh.
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« Reply #163 on: September 21, 2007, 08:27:55 AM »

All that said, I have always enjoyed 3DDiffusions posts here and hope that this will not cause problems HERE.  And IS 3DDiffusion a she?  I was pretty certain it was a he.
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« Reply #164 on: September 21, 2007, 08:28:57 AM »


And I regret nothing either. You said that MMM had said that Steiner ROBBED Van Cleave of credit. I said he didnt'.

You then admitted that you had used "hyperbole" - that the word "ROBBED" - in all caps - was your own.

Frankly, newcomers to that thread, or to the boards, who read that thread, would have had sympathy for MMM just as I did.
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« Reply #165 on: September 21, 2007, 08:29:54 AM »

I did get my ANNE OF THE THOUSAND DAYS/MARY QUEEN OF SCOTS combo DVD set yesterday as well as some Blu-ray discs, and no time to watch very many of them at the moment. Very frustrating.

After I finish with 3 PENNY OPERA today, I have to start right in on MARTHA GRAHAM ON FILM, and I'm expecting the WHAT ABOUT BRIAN TV box set either today or tomorrow, too. Whew!

I Just got ANNE/MARY and the transfers look pretty terrific to me
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Re:AN OPEN BRAIN
« Reply #166 on: September 21, 2007, 08:30:59 AM »

All that said, I have always enjoyed 3DDiffusions posts here and hope that this will not cause problems HERE.  And IS 3DDiffusion a she?  I was pretty certain it was a he.

I don't see why it would have caused problems here if you hadn't brought it up here.  Now I'm a bit annoyed.
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« Reply #167 on: September 21, 2007, 08:32:10 AM »

I kind of like having bk on EST.  Perhaps he can be persuaded to stay in NYC?  :)
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« Reply #168 on: September 21, 2007, 08:36:48 AM »

I have no problem with people showing off their knowledge - I have problems with people touting knowledge without providing facts, and furthermore I have REAL problems when someone else does post something factual that belies what the person showing off his "knowledge" has said and then that person simply ignores those posts and keeps posting his obviously faulty assumptions.  This happened in a different thread, which became legendary.

However, yes, we can agree to disagree because I was in no way "out of line" and I went out of my way to not be out of line, something I now regret.  Even though it was obvious to anyone who was aware of the previous Waxman thread what Mr. Schecter was doing, I merely said I wouldn't post and that everyone could just imagine what I would have posted had I wished to go there.  I stated clearly that it was in the interest of keeping the board harmonious.  After that, I simply responded to what was being thrown my way, and I STILL never went after him because he was doing such a good job of making himself look like a twit.  Lukas Kendall, the owner of the board, saw exactly what was going on and tried to stop it as did his moderator.  

So, I will respectfully disagree that I was out of line and I'm sorry that you read that into what I posted.  But, like Ron, I regret only that I wasn't stronger when Mr. Schecter went off his rocker.  The always-amusing thing is that it's seemingly fine for this guy to attack and have his alter-egos come on and defend him and attack anyone else who happens to see through his line of BS - that's perfectly peachy - not to me, baby, not to me.
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« Reply #169 on: September 21, 2007, 08:38:51 AM »

I don't see why it would have caused problems here if you hadn't brought it up here.  Now I'm a bit annoyed.

I brought it up as I found the whole thing decidedly odd.  No reason to be annoyed about anything and let's all just move on now.  It's obvious that you read into posts things that certainly were not meant by me, and that's all fine and dandy.
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« Reply #170 on: September 21, 2007, 08:44:43 AM »

The always-amusing thing is that it's seemingly fine for this guy to attack and have his alter-egos come on and defend him and attack anyone else who happens to see through his line of BS - that's perfectly peachy - not to me, baby, not to me.

Again, I don't see it that way - especially since MMM was on the defensive from his second post onward and not attacking anyone.

And if Scifiman was his altar ego he could have used a better choice!

But let's just agree to disagree.



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« Reply #171 on: September 21, 2007, 08:45:30 AM »

I'm still groggy.  Am calling dear reader Jose to see if we're doing mac and cheese or even West Side Cottage for yummilicious Chinese food.
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« Reply #172 on: September 21, 2007, 08:46:11 AM »

I might get a DVD to watch during my three days off, although I shall be spending those three days dealing with the fundraiser and casting same.
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« Reply #173 on: September 21, 2007, 08:49:09 AM »

I was paraphrasing MMM's assertion that Steiner deserved credit alongside Van Cleave.  I did NOT say Steiner robbed anyone of anything.  Look at the single post...repost it , alone, here verbatim...and things ought to sort out.  I said MMM declared Steiner was ROBBED of credit....that's my "hysperbole"...the use of the word robbed in place of "deserved".  It's poetic license for gosh sake!

See, to me, I dislike paraphrasing in these instances. When you're trying to criticize what a guy says - you quote him exactly.   Thats all I'm saying.

See...now we're going to have three pages of he said, she said here now, covering the same ground we did there!

I shall go away and not come back until a couple hundred posts have set these into the distance....
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« Reply #174 on: September 21, 2007, 08:51:05 AM »

Nah, we're done with it now - let's talk about THE BRAIN!
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« Reply #175 on: September 21, 2007, 08:52:35 AM »

Again, I don't see it that way - especially since MMM was on the defensive from his second post onward and not attacking anyone.

And if Scifiman was his altar ego he could have used a better choice!

But let's just agree to disagree.





There is no question scimusicman is his alter-ego - but you'd have to know the history to know why it's so obvious. :)

And yes, let's agree to disagree.  Or, conversely, let's disagree to agree.
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« Reply #176 on: September 21, 2007, 08:53:09 AM »

I wanna go to West Side Cottage!  Sept. 29 cannot come soon enough - DH Richard and I really need a week in NYC.
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« Reply #177 on: September 21, 2007, 08:59:57 AM »

I sometimes dream of the cold sesame noodles.  
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« Reply #178 on: September 21, 2007, 09:02:00 AM »

One more for consideration for DRR SWW - here - and you can get a used copy for under $15!  :)

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« Reply #179 on: September 21, 2007, 09:02:57 AM »

I sometimes dream of the cold sesame noodles.  

With the light brown hair?
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