Topic: THE HAPPY PUNDIT (Read 40396 times)

Ron Pulliam · « **Reply #210 on:** November 11, 2003, 04:38:38 PM »

Quote from: [size=3]Matt H[/size]. on November 11, 2003, 04:34:36 PM

DR Ron, that's VERY interesting information about GYPSY, and I'd love to know more. I had always heard that it's Jule Styne conducting the orchestra during the overture.

I'll have to find the letter (it's from sometime between 1988 and 1992, and there are a lot of letters), but Jule Styne was definitely involved, according to my friend. This may be true.

But do you mean on-screen or actually conducting the orchestra?

Jennifer · « **Reply #211 on:** November 11, 2003, 04:40:13 PM »

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Quote from: Jennifer on Today at 04:09:34pm
Oh and when I asked who people prefer (Batman or Superman) I wasn't meaning the cartoon, comic or movies. I just meant the actual character.

DR MattH wrote:

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Dear DR Jennifer, I guess I'm stupid, but I'm not following your train of thought. The characters of Superman and Batman were both conceived as comic book characters, so how else are we to evaluate them if we don't do it through our knowledge of them from either comics, films, or TV? They weren't real people.

Sorry, but am I missing something?

No, you can evaluate them from any medium. I just meant that I wasn't trying to compare the movies or the comics. I just wanted to know who people like better/or who people think is sexier Batman or Superman. I still say Superman.

Okay I"m off.

Matt H. · « **Reply #212 on:** November 11, 2003, 04:40:47 PM »

Isn't it ironic that Donna Murphy won Tonys for roles that were much more vocally challenging (PASSION, THE KING AND I) than WONDERFUL TOWN, and now she's so sick, she can't do even the small amount of singing required for WONDERFUL TOWN. She must have totally lost her voice because Ruth could basically talk most of her songs other than the harmony with "Ohio."

Ben · « **Reply #213 on:** November 11, 2003, 04:41:13 PM »

Je suis will go ahead et do it au jourd'hi. I'm sure I mangled that spelling and I'm speaking Franglais but I thought I would pull it out of my rusty old brain. Haven't spoken French since 1988 when I spent 6 weeks in Honfleur, a gorgeous little jewel box of a village in Normandy, just outside of Deauville and Trouville. The first reference I ever heard to Deauville was on the No Strings OBC when they sang about dullsville and Deauville. I loved it then, never knowing so many years later I would sit on the beach at Deauville.

Ron Pulliam · « **Reply #214 on:** November 11, 2003, 04:41:53 PM »

Let's see....if it's "Batman" -- Keaton's, Clooney's or Kilmer's? Which was sexiest, or were the all, equally, sexy?

If you prefer Adam West's, say so.

And why not rate Robins, too?

Chris O'Donnell or Burt Ward?

Matt H. · « **Reply #215 on:** November 11, 2003, 04:44:08 PM »

No, I read that Jule Styne was conducting the orchestra on screen the overture that we see while the credits are flashing. (Of course, the orchestra was prerecorded, but I had read that's Styne. From the back, it's hard to tell, of course. It could well be Edens, or did you mean that Edens actually conducted the overture during the recording session?)

Ron Pulliam · « **Reply #216 on:** November 11, 2003, 04:44:50 PM »

Come on , Ben. One more. Let's see that fourth star pop up!

bk · « **Reply #217 on:** November 11, 2003, 04:45:35 PM »

If you're talking about the on screen conductor at the beginning of Gypsy, it's definitely NOT Jule Styne. I know my close personal friend, Mr. Stephen Sondheim, has said he hates the film of Gypsy, but he seemed grateful when I sent him a beautiful letterboxed VHS of Together Wherever We Go and the cut portions of You'll Never Get Away From Me. You see, long before the laserdisc came out I'd been given that footage (all copies of this have come from Mr. Karl Malden's 16mm print) and I sent it to him and if I remember correctly he said it was a treat to see it.

I hadn't heard that was Roger Edens conducting - can someone confirm or deny, not necessarily in that order.

Matt H. · « **Reply #218 on:** November 11, 2003, 04:45:42 PM »

Of the film Batmen, I thought Clooney's Batman AND Bruce Wayne were sexiest.

Chris O'Donnell the sexiest Robin by a landslide.

Ron Pulliam · « **Reply #219 on:** November 11, 2003, 04:46:04 PM »

Quote from: Matt H. on November 11, 2003, 04:44:08 PM

No, I read that Jule Styne was conducting the orchestra on screen the overture that we see while the credits are flashing. (Of course, the orchestra was prerecorded, but I had read that's Styne. From the back, it's hard to tell, of course. It could well be Edens, or did you mean that Edens actually conducted the overture during the recording session?)

Yes.

No.

I don't know.

Let me dig that stuff out and resurrect it at another time!

Ben · « **Reply #220 on:** November 11, 2003, 04:46:22 PM »

Yes, if Roz Russel could do it, Donna can do it. I do Love Roz but singing was not her strongest ability. I didn't get to see her in King and I but she seems to be quite right for it.

We just bumped to page 8 and it's only 7:45 East Coast time. We will easily break yesterday's numbers. And with this post, I, too, will break into something. Not song, but Senior Membership. OK, I promise to be quite for a while. Even if Jennifer steals in during the night and posts until she's ahead of me ;-)

Ben · « **Reply #221 on:** November 11, 2003, 04:48:04 PM »

As Matt H. said, Chris O'Donnell by a landslide.

Matt H. · « **Reply #222 on:** November 11, 2003, 04:49:17 PM »

I guess if we're to be fair, we should include the Batmen and Robins from the two serials, too:

1943: Lewis Wilson as Batman and Douglas Croft as Robin

1949: Robert Lowery as Batman and John Duncan as Robin

My votes stay the same!!

Danise · « **Reply #223 on:** November 11, 2003, 04:49:55 PM »

OK Jennifer--I sent it to you. I think. Let me know what you think.

D

Jane · « **Reply #224 on:** November 11, 2003, 04:50:13 PM »

[quote author=Jennifer Oh and when I asked who people prefer (Batman or Superman) I wasn't meaning the cartoon, comic or movies. I just meant the actual character.

For some reason I am in love with Superman.

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In that case he wins "big time" over Batman. To me it is easy to be in love with the character of Superman.

bk · « **Reply #225 on:** November 11, 2003, 05:17:15 PM »

What a splendidly splendid number of postings. And it's still early - if we were to keep up this pace we could get close to our previous high. I am always trying to get close to my previous high. I spoke to our very own Vinnie Cirilli today and he send his best.

Tomovoz · « **Reply #226 on:** November 11, 2003, 05:27:36 PM »

DR Jane. I like so many flavours but I always go back to Strawberry. My partner Colin is trying to break my ice-cream addiction and MAKES fresh fruit frozen yoghurt desserts for me. Summer is just about here and avoiding ice-cream is not likley to happen then!

MBarnum · « **Reply #227 on:** November 11, 2003, 05:53:37 PM »

Quote from: Matt H. on November 11, 2003, 04:49:17 PM

I guess if we're to be fair, we should include the Batmen and Robins from the two serials, too:

1943: Lewis Wilson as Batman and Douglas Croft as Robin

1949: Robert Lowery as Batman and John Duncan as Robin

Hmmm...John Duncan was a cute Robin as I recall! But my vote would go for the Batman that was on those commercials a couple of years ago...don't know his name...but as for sexiest superhero give me Aqua-man!

Tomovoz · « **Reply #228 on:** November 11, 2003, 06:08:05 PM »

At least we are not censored TCB. Guess it must be a tech issue. No problem here. I promise I am not kicking you about (unless of course you would like me to). Maybe this should have been a private message but it is a public concern if TCB is kicked off the board.

TCB · « **Reply #229 on:** November 11, 2003, 06:08:05 PM »

Quote from: Danise on November 11, 2003, 04:37:38 PM

Jennifer--just tell me how and I will.

D

Danise, let me know if your approach works. I f so, there are a couple of guys at this site that I would like to try it on.

Michael · « **Reply #230 on:** November 11, 2003, 06:10:53 PM »

I see that the film version of Jacques Brel Is Alive and Well and Living in Paris was released today. Did anyone pick it up or at least see it in the stores in their neighborhood?

Tomovoz · « **Reply #231 on:** November 11, 2003, 06:11:20 PM »

You need to know "how". I think not TCB.

Tomovoz · « **Reply #232 on:** November 11, 2003, 06:15:25 PM »

Fine Carousel but I would rather see Mr Macrae the barker.

Tomovoz · « **Reply #233 on:** November 11, 2003, 06:22:21 PM »

And speaking of such, I noticed on the recent Dress Circle catalogue that there was a Heather Macrae Cd of her singing songs associated with her father.

Michael · « **Reply #234 on:** November 11, 2003, 06:24:19 PM »

From an article on the www

Pow! Crunch! Bam! Zowie! Gay!
by Randy Dotinga

While gay characters are fairly new, alleged gay subtexts aren't. Critics began complaining about gay content in the comics shortly after Batman and Robin started shacking up in a mansion above Gotham City. In the 1954 book Seduction of the Innocent, a Bellevue Hospital psychiatrist claimed he knew how to read between the lines in the Batman comic books.

He pointed out that Bruce Wayne and Dick Grayson, the alter egos of Batman and Robin, lived together in a "sumptuous" home with a butler and lots of pretty flowers in vases.

"It is like a wish-dream of two homosexuals living together," the author wrote, adding that Robin often walked around with his bare legs spread apart, exposing his crotch.

Only someone ignorant of the fundamentals of psychiatry and the psychopathology of sex can fail to realize a subtle atmosphere of homoeroticism which pervades the adventure of the mature 'Batman' and his young friend 'Robin.'
-- Frederic Wertham, Seduction of the Innocent

Wonder Woman, meanwhile, came under fire in a psychiatric journal for being man-hating and "plainly lesbian."

From

Holy Homosexuality Batman!:
Camp and Corporate Capitalism
in Batman Forever

by Freya Johnson

Dick dons his Robin costume in Batman Forever and the camera loving focuses on what looks like a glowing violet dildo showing through the codpiece of his uniform. 'We're not just friends,' says Dick, 'we're partners;' the next shot is the dynamic duo's clasped hands. Indeed, queer signification so saturates Batman Forever that it would be inaccurate to call it a subtext. With his earring, haircut and leather jacket Chris O'Donnell looks like he's just come straight from an ACT UP meeting, while Val Kilmer's body is exposed and eroticized only in the scenes with O'Donnell (as he wanders out of the shower bare-chested in towel, is treated for injuries, or puts on the new bat-suit while the image of his butt-cleavage fills the screen).

TCB · « **Reply #235 on:** November 11, 2003, 06:26:55 PM »

I thought Heather MacRae passed away? Or was that her sister?

Well, of to Review the Situation.

Michael · « **Reply #236 on:** November 11, 2003, 06:27:02 PM »

Quote from: Tom from OZ on November 11, 2003, 06:15:25 PM

Fine Carousel but I would rather see Mr Macrae the barker.

If you know Brel then you understand the connection to the image, but just for you Tom........

Ron Pulliam · « **Reply #237 on:** November 11, 2003, 06:27:15 PM »

What are the names of that dynamic "SNL" cartoon duo...they are not even subtle!

Tomovoz · « **Reply #238 on:** November 11, 2003, 06:29:33 PM »

I see on the "on line" list that I am between Ron and Tom. Does that mean I am now in Oregon?

Michael · « **Reply #239 on:** November 11, 2003, 06:30:36 PM »

Quote from: TCB on November 11, 2003, 06:26:55 PM

I thought Heather MacRae passed away? Or was that her sister?

Well, of to Review the Situation.

It was her sister who passed away a few years ago from Brain Cancer...Meredith McRae

And looking back at all the ladies who played the three daughters (I think there were 7 of them) over the course of the series I know why the town was called HOOTERVILLE

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