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Re:CLEAR AS A BELL, CLEAN AS A WHISTLE
« Reply #90 on: November 16, 2004, 03:41:51 PM »

Well, then, we who attend BK's book signings should speak to him in gibberish.
Those of us who have attended BK's book signings don't bother with gibberish, unless it's because our mouths are filled with cheese slices, ham chunks, and cake!

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I, too, am too young to remember roadshow pictures.  The earliest films I can recall seeing are Those Magnificent Men in Their Flying Machines, The Sound of Music and Mary Poppins.  I saw these in New York, and it seems very likely to me these weren't roadshow events.  In my family, you didn't spend extra money on a child, so if there was an alternative of waiting to see the movie at a cheaper (2nd-run?) price, that's what would have happened.
Usually with a roadshow screening, some sort of commemorative booklet was involved.  For a fee, again usually.

I'd forgotten that I saw Mary Poppins during it's original engagement at Grauman's Chinese.
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« Reply #91 on: November 16, 2004, 03:42:43 PM »

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« Reply #92 on: November 16, 2004, 03:52:57 PM »

My friend ran into the same problems - all rooms booked or more expensive than even what I'm paying.  Shocking, really.

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« Reply #93 on: November 16, 2004, 04:01:33 PM »


I'd forgotten that I saw Mary Poppins during it's original engagement at Grauman's Chinese.

Maybe we were there on the same day.  :)

Has anyone found a link to a list of early roadshows?  I couldn’t.

I really don’t remember my first Roadshow picture, nor did I know they were called that-back then.  Like Penny I’m guessing it was AROUND THE WORLD IN 80 DAYS.  After graduation from ninth grade we went to IT’S A MAD MAD WORLD, where I had to pretend to laugh with the rest of the kids-didn’t want my date to feel bad.  

When I was in elementary school I know I went to a number of birthday parties where we had reserved seats, if they were Roadshows I can’t tell you.  

I saw SOUND OF MUSIC twice.  In the years around that time I remember Keith and I went to a number of movies we purchased tickets for, new and old (GWTW & LAURENCE OF ARABIA).  
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Re:CLEAR AS A BELL, CLEAN AS A WHISTLE
« Reply #94 on: November 16, 2004, 04:03:18 PM »

My friend ran into the same problems - all rooms booked or more expensive than even what I'm paying.  Shocking, really.



And I had thought I picked a busy expensive week to visit NY.
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Re:CLEAR AS A BELL, CLEAN AS A WHISTLE
« Reply #95 on: November 16, 2004, 04:23:14 PM »

Guests of Our Wedding - The Musical   www.weddingmusical.com stayed at the Hotel Beacon, on Broadway near 75th.  No one complained (to us, at least).  I honestly cannot fathom why BK would want to stay in Times Square.  There are other parts of New York that are actually pleasant; quiet, even.  So many tourists want to stay in the 'hood they've heard of (Times Square, where that ball drops ever New Year), that the hotels in that part of town can jack up their prices and still sell every room.

I do understand that availability is what it is because New York's a very popular destination in December.  But do yourself a favor and look beyond the theatre district.  You can always visit there when you're not asleep.
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« Reply #96 on: November 16, 2004, 04:40:30 PM »

http://www.widescreenmuseum.com/widescreen/showmanship.htm

This should keep Roadshow Enthusiasts surfing for a while. . .. ;D
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« Reply #97 on: November 16, 2004, 04:41:44 PM »

Noel my room at the Wellington was very quiet, yet I could walk the streets at all hours.  I think I just set myself up with that last statement.  The latest I was out walking was 1:45 and there were plenty of people around.
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« Reply #98 on: November 16, 2004, 04:46:28 PM »

Guests of Our Wedding - The Musical   www.weddingmusical.com stayed at the Hotel Beacon, on Broadway near 75th.  No one complained (to us, at least).  I honestly cannot fathom why BK would want to stay in Times Square.  There are other parts of New York that are actually pleasant; quiet, even.  So many tourists want to stay in the 'hood they've heard of (Times Square, where that ball drops ever New Year), that the hotels in that part of town can jack up their prices and still sell every room.

I do understand that availability is what it is because New York's a very popular destination in December.  But do yourself a favor and look beyond the theatre district.  You can always visit there when you're not asleep.

For better or worse, people like to stay in or near Times Square, because it's Times Square.  Even when I go to NYC, I usually prefer to stay around Times Square.  It's convenient, and I can usually find and/or work out some good deal on a hotel room.  And it's just so much easier to walk a few blocks to the Equity building to play auditions or over to the New 42nd Street studios to play rehearsals.  And even though Times Square may be bright and noisy, most of the hotel rooms around Times Square are "dark" and quiet - at least in my experience.  In fact, I'd have to say the quietest room I've ever had in NYC was at the Doubletree.  And the room came equipped with blackout shades on the windows since my room overlooked Times Square.  *And the worst room I've ever had in New York was an interior/no-window room at the Waldorf-Astoria.  YUCK!  Quiet, yes, but very unpleasant.  -But then again, I didn't book the room, so...

It's New York City, not New York Hamlet.

Yes, there are times when I've been in NYC where I know I would like some peace and quiet while I'm up there.  In those instances, I usually book over at the Skyline (50th and 10th - still my favorite), or I book over on the East Side - talk about quiet, especially after 5:00pm!

And all hotels in and around New York City jack up their nightly rates during popular periods - not just those around Times Square.  Heck, try booking a room during "in season" in southern Florida - talk about supply and demand!  When I had a gig in Ft. Myers during the holiday season, the cheapest room I could find was $178/night - and that was at a La Quinta!

And from recent personal experience, some people actually like Times Square, warts and all.  My friend, Steve, grew up in rural Virginia, and when he wants to go The City, he wants to go THE CITY.  It's not that he doesn't appreciate his more rural origins, but since it's something he's not been exposed to on a regular basis, it's something he wants to experience.  Nothing wrong with that.
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« Reply #99 on: November 16, 2004, 04:49:17 PM »

Thanks td.  I’m sure I saw more roadshow pictures than listed here.  From that list I saw BEN HUR, TEN COMMANDMANTS & WEST SIDE STORY at a roadshow.  
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« Reply #100 on: November 16, 2004, 04:53:01 PM »

Ah, but Jane, did you read all the memos and stuff on presentation?

If my memory serves, for a roadshow engagement to be classified as one, no theater within 100 miles could be showing the same film.
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« Reply #101 on: November 16, 2004, 05:03:48 PM »

Do you mean go back to the lobby and read more?  I wouldn't have known if a movie was only withing the 100 miles distance, only that we purchased reserved seats.  I lived near the same theaters that Bruce saw his roadshow pictures.
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« Reply #102 on: November 16, 2004, 05:30:36 PM »

Had to step away for a while, to get some things for dinner started and head to the store for a couple of others.  

Der Brucer has been whining asking me to make pineapple fritters, something I've never tried before.  Since all the eggs in the house have been in the house for a while, and (in every recipe I've got) fritter batter requires the eggs to be separated, with the beaten whites folded into the batter towards the end, I needed fresh eggs.  The fritters should go well with ham steak and cheddar grits.  (The leftover pineapple juice from the can is the basis for a sweet and sour sauce, of course.)

Hungry yet?
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« Reply #103 on: November 16, 2004, 05:49:11 PM »

Do you mean go back to the lobby and read more?  I wouldn't have known if a movie was only withing the 100 miles distance, only that we purchased reserved seats.  I lived near the same theaters that Bruce saw his roadshow pictures.

Just for you, Jane (well, not really), but since YOU asked:
http://www.widescreenmuseum.com/widescreen/showmanship.htm
http://www.widescreenmuseum.com/widescreen/road-gwtw1.htm
http://www.widescreenmuseum.com/widescreen/roadshow_ben-hur.htm
http://www.widescreenmuseum.com/widescreen/elcid1.htm
http://www.widescreenmuseum.com/widescreen/roadshow_demille.htm
http://www.widescreenmuseum.com/widescreen/wss_presentation.htm
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« Reply #104 on: November 16, 2004, 05:52:34 PM »

I love that site DRtd - every theater owner was a Showman!!
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« Reply #105 on: November 16, 2004, 05:56:55 PM »

Just to let you know, I gave in to all your talk earlier about DeepDiscountDVD's sale.  So copies of B'WAY'S LOST TREASURES II and BWAY: THE GOLDEN AGE are on their way (Free shipping!  20% Off!  woo-hoo!) to Rochester!
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« Reply #106 on: November 16, 2004, 06:06:33 PM »

I honestly cannot fathom why BK would want to stay in Times Square.  There are other parts of New York that are actually pleasant; quiet, even. ..I do understand that availability is what it is because New York's a very popular destination in December.  But do yourself a favor and look beyond the theatre district.  You can always visit there when you're not asleep.
If BK were a "tourist," this advice would make sense.  However, he is also a businessman, and my hunch is that the booksigning and reading isn't the only part of this trip that will be business.  Having a convenient location for business meetings (in his case logically in the theater district) makes perfectly good sense.
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« Reply #107 on: November 16, 2004, 06:15:06 PM »

Dear DR WFOrr: Der B appreciates the joke, and the compliment!
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« Reply #108 on: November 16, 2004, 06:18:55 PM »

As I recall, roadshow engagements of films basically ended with a) fourwalling, and b) the birth of the multiplex theater.  These took place at about the same time, during the late '60s-early '70s.  

These days a film has to make it's biggest impact during it's first weekend, and even a hit can be designated a flop if it doesn't make as much as the prognosticators predict.
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« Reply #109 on: November 16, 2004, 06:27:39 PM »

I just like the theater district, and yes, I'll be having a few meetings close by.

Spent most of today going through the script and making fixes and changes and moving a few things around.  I was pretty happy with it, though, and all the little stuff I did today helped, I think.  I'll spend the next two days going over it some more, and then get it out of here by Thursday afternoon.
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« Reply #110 on: November 16, 2004, 06:31:37 PM »

Did you use the voodoo, MR BK?  It's the voodoo, I tells ya!
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« Reply #111 on: November 16, 2004, 06:57:57 PM »

td reading those brought back wonderful memories of anticipation as the curtain opened.  Thank you.  

While not yet a glimmer in my parents eyes when GWTW premiered on December 28, 1939 at the Carthay Circle Theater in Los Angeles, Keith and I did go there in the late 60’s (I think 1967) for a re-release.  We had reserved seating for two consecutive nights as the intermission lasted an entire day.   
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« Reply #112 on: November 16, 2004, 07:10:40 PM »

Believe it or not, Jane, I have actually been to a theater that showed GWTW without an Intermission!  (the same theater did the same with THE SOUND OF MUSIC for its first shows of the day on weekends).
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« Reply #113 on: November 16, 2004, 07:12:20 PM »

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td reading those brought back wonderful memories of anticipation as the curtain opened.  Thank you.

You're welcome!   :)
And if you have (or get it from Netflix) STAR! I believe that Robert Wise's notes for its Road Show Engagements are still there, they were indeed on the laserdisc.
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« Reply #114 on: November 16, 2004, 07:14:54 PM »

Speaking of Netflix, how many DRs use this wonderful service, and what's currently in your queue?

Mine has FANDO & LIS by Jodorowsky, two Shirley Bassey concert dvds, SAVED! and MEAN GIRLS.
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« Reply #115 on: November 16, 2004, 07:22:33 PM »

Oh, that's it, make the rest of us feel ancient!   ::)



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We are ancient!
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« Reply #116 on: November 16, 2004, 07:31:29 PM »

We are ancient!
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Not YOU, TCB!  You're ageless to me!   :-*
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« Reply #117 on: November 16, 2004, 07:35:11 PM »

There was a nice article in our local paper on Nuns in America featuring Dolores Hart.  Included were two photos of her, then and now.  I attempted to find the link to my paper with the photos but there wasn’t one.  Following is another link, minus the photographs.
http://www.stamfordadvocate.com/news/local/state/hc-12012224.apds.m0877.bc-ct--nunsnov12,0,6266142.story?coll=hc-headlines-local-wire
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« Reply #118 on: November 16, 2004, 07:38:33 PM »

td I could have sat through those movies without an intermission when I was young, but no way now.  Of course it wasn't smart of them-missed out on all those candy, etc. sales.

I'm going to check my Netflix queue now.
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« Reply #119 on: November 16, 2004, 07:46:46 PM »

We have four DVD’s out and 21 in our queue.  I’ll only name a few:

BEFORE SUNRISE
BEFORE SUNSET
YAHUDI
THE TERMINAL
13 GOING ON 30

Thanks for asking.  I found a movie in there we have seen and I wasn’t too keen on it the first time around.
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