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Re: I'M A BELIEVER
« Reply #90 on: November 27, 2010, 12:18:39 PM »

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« Reply #91 on: November 27, 2010, 12:21:37 PM »

Since we are discussing different computer jargon, does anyone understand cloud.com?


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Re: I'M A BELIEVER
« Reply #92 on: November 27, 2010, 12:33:17 PM »

Since we are discussing different computer jargon, does anyone understand cloud.com?




It is basically very high-end, high-tech online storage. However, instead of just being a storage center - a virtual hard-drive - it's actually an online data and software source. So... You know that mainframe computer that is probably in the basement of your office building? Well, just imagine it "out there".
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« Reply #93 on: November 27, 2010, 12:52:34 PM »

That's what I've been thinking - I still have yet to read any of the in-depth new coverage. I'm also guessing that since he actually attempted the bombing, that that would be a "stronger" charge than just planning it. ???

So suggests the FOX News reports:

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A law enforcement official, who was not authorized to discuss the investigation publicly and spoke on condition of anonymity, told The Associated Press on Saturday that federal agents began investigating the suspect after receiving a tip from someone who was concerned about the teenager.

The FBI affidavit that outlined the investigation alleges that Mohamud planned the attack for months, at one point mailing bomb components to FBI operatives, whom he believed were assembling the device.

Mohamud, a naturalized U.S. citizen living in Corvallis, was charged with attempted use of a weapon of mass destruction, which carries a maximum sentence of life in prison. A court appearance was set for Monday. Few details were available about him late Friday.

Authorities allowed the plot to proceed in order to build up enough evidence to charge the suspect with attempt.

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Re: I'M A BELIEVER
« Reply #94 on: November 27, 2010, 01:32:01 PM »

The more I read Patti LuPone's biography and then watching her on the Sondehiem Birthday concert, I'm convinced I'd enjoy her more if I didn't know so much about her. 
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« Reply #95 on: November 27, 2010, 01:33:39 PM »

Thanks to MBarnum, Druxy, Sam and Jose!
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« Reply #96 on: November 27, 2010, 01:59:09 PM »

Laugh all you want about the cake, but I need to transport our Christmas dinner to Lima because Richard and I are going on Christmas Eve (Friday) and staying 'til after church on Sunday (Dec. 26).  We are staying in a guest house at a retirement community and will have cooking facilities, but I want to make a lot of it ahead and transportable.  I've bookmarked the recipe.

;D  It sort of looks like a Cottage pie cake.
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Re: I'M A BELIEVER
« Reply #97 on: November 27, 2010, 02:02:06 PM »

The story about the bomb attempt in Portland was the lead story on NPR this morning...

It's good to know that his plot was foiled, although knowing that this operation has been going on for months, well... :-\

Press reports say the government deliberately let the plot develop so they could gather more evidence (no lives were at stake); however, I suspect a good defense could be made based on entrapment.

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That's what I've been thinking - I still have yet to read any of the in-depth new coverage. I'm also guessing that since he actually attempted the bombing, that that would be a "stronger" charge than just planning it. ???

I figured since they let him complete the plan, while making sure no harm could be done, there is an excellent case against him. 
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Re: I'M A BELIEVER
« Reply #98 on: November 27, 2010, 02:06:24 PM »

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« Reply #99 on: November 27, 2010, 02:16:20 PM »

I figured since they let him complete the plan, while making sure no harm could be done, there is an excellent case against him. 

Yes, but...the Feds were instrumental from Day 1 in helping him persue the plan - they provided the material, went with him on test runs, etc. One could suggest there would never have been an attempt without the Feds help - and that is the very core of an "entrapment" defense.

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Re: I'M A BELIEVER
« Reply #100 on: November 27, 2010, 02:21:59 PM »

Looks like Portland photographerJIM KAZANJIAN has been in JMK's neighborhood:





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Re: I'M A BELIEVER
« Reply #101 on: November 27, 2010, 02:26:39 PM »

Maybe Elmore should hire a painter before showing the property:



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« Reply #102 on: November 27, 2010, 02:30:02 PM »

I figured since they let him complete the plan, while making sure no harm could be done, there is an excellent case against him. 

Yes, but...the Feds were instrumental from Day 1 in helping him persue the plan - they provided the material, went with him on test runs, etc. One could suggest there would never have been an attempt without the Feds help - and that is the very core of an "entrapment" defense.

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Except the Feds didn't instigate the plan.  Had they not "assisted" he might have found someone else to and accomplished his goal.
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Re: I'M A BELIEVER
« Reply #103 on: November 27, 2010, 02:30:40 PM »

After this discussion I shall have to read the details as they are revealed and see what happens. 
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Re: I'M A BELIEVER
« Reply #104 on: November 27, 2010, 02:56:27 PM »

Back from various and sundried errands and whatnot.
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Re: I'M A BELIEVER
« Reply #105 on: November 27, 2010, 02:56:43 PM »

And now I shall eat a Subway Spicy Eyetalian sandwich.
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Re: I'M A BELIEVER
« Reply #106 on: November 27, 2010, 03:24:36 PM »

Check out this video of the eleven year old blind gymnast.  She is amazing.
http://news.yahoo.com/video/us-15749625/blind-gymnast-s-leap-of-faith-23199499
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« Reply #107 on: November 27, 2010, 03:46:12 PM »

Greetings! I spent a nice afternoon with my friends Peggy Short and Chuck Veit, and now Jo and I are waiting for Randy to return from his roadtrip. Perhaps we will go to dinner after all.
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« Reply #108 on: November 27, 2010, 04:08:13 PM »

DR elmore, please try and stay patient with Randy & forgive him for caving in to Macbeth.  I know from personal experience how difficult it is.  Just keep reminding yourself you don't want to harm your relationship with him.
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Re: I'M A BELIEVER
« Reply #109 on: November 27, 2010, 04:09:02 PM »

Happy Birthday to DR Ginny's mother!!!
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Re: I'M A BELIEVER
« Reply #110 on: November 27, 2010, 04:10:53 PM »

That cake looks good until you really look at it! ;)
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Re: I'M A BELIEVER
« Reply #111 on: November 27, 2010, 04:25:50 PM »

Thank you, DR Jennifer!  We just returned from taking Mom home after feeding her a reasonable facsimile of Thanksgiving dinner.  Now everybody has leftovers, which we missed after our lovely restaurant meal on Thursday.
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« Reply #112 on: November 27, 2010, 04:31:37 PM »

Here's our DN Lauren (athletic training major) with the Miami University mascot, "Swoops, the RedHawk."  The way we find her on the sidelines is to look for that Gatorade caddy, which is usually at the end of her arm.
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« Reply #113 on: November 27, 2010, 04:35:49 PM »

Cute photo Ginny.
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« Reply #115 on: November 27, 2010, 04:38:30 PM »

Happy Birthday Ginny's Mom!!!!!!
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« Reply #116 on: November 27, 2010, 04:38:41 PM »

Happy Birthday Divarobbie
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« Reply #117 on: November 27, 2010, 04:42:16 PM »

Cute photo Ginny.

Thanks, DR Jane!  She loves her work and is very excited because Miami has become MAC-East champs and will play in the MAC championship next Friday in Detroit.
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« Reply #118 on: November 27, 2010, 04:43:50 PM »

Happy Birthday Ginny's Mom!!!!!!

Thank you, DR Cillaliz!
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« Reply #119 on: November 27, 2010, 04:43:54 PM »

The story about the bomb attempt in Portland was the lead story on NPR this morning...

It's good to know that his plot was foiled, although knowing that this operation has been going on for months, well... :-\

Press reports say the government deliberately let the plot develop so they could gather more evidence (no lives were at stake); however, I suspect a good defense could be made based on entrapment.

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I doubt entrapment would fly, but I don't know the details.  For entrapment you have to prove essentially that but for the government activity you wouldn't have engaged in the activity.  That's a hard thing to prove if you had the plan for the bomb. If it hadn't been for the government, he would likely have gotten his bomb materials elsewhere.  That's not entrapment.   Of course if the facts are different, then there may be a possibility
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