Topic: PARENTING 101 REDUX (Read 17800 times)

bk · « **on:** September 12, 2011, 12:10:42 AM »

Well, you've read the notes, the notes had discipline, which is more than I can say about the Jerry's Deli kids, and now it is time for you to post until the disciplined cows come home.

bk · « **Reply #1 on:** September 12, 2011, 12:11:22 AM »

And the word of the day is: PERPEND!

Ben · « **Reply #2 on:** September 12, 2011, 02:12:30 AM »

Morning all.

That is all.

John G. · « **Reply #3 on:** September 12, 2011, 03:59:51 AM »

Good morning, all.

John G. · « **Reply #4 on:** September 12, 2011, 04:09:04 AM »

TOD: You've touched a common nerve with many today, BK. That's why there are child-free restaurants growing in number out there. Not the chains, mind you, but an increasing number of places, and not all of them high-end restaurants, either.

I did a column on this recently for my food site, SavorSA.com, and it drew the most responses of anything I'd written in some time. Too many parents just abnegate their responsibility of seeing that their children behave, thereby ruining dinner, movies, you name it, for the rest of us.

I remember seeing "Saving Private Ryan" in the theater. A single father brought his two boys (aged about 8 and 9) to the movie. The boys treated the opening sequence like it was a comic book and ran around the theater shooting at each other while the father slept.

Another time I went to see a zombie movie -- the remake of "Dawn of the Dead," I think -- and most everyone else in the theater had brought small children with them. As the kids started screaming uncontrollably at the violence, parents grudgingly had to leave the theater. Some of them made things worse by slapping their kids and blaming them for ruining their evening. By the time the movie was over, there were less than half a dozen left.

We now have a few theaters that refuse to allow anyone under 17 into an R-rated movie, even with parental accompaniment. Hooray for that.

End of my rant.

vixmom · « **Reply #5 on:** September 12, 2011, 04:12:05 AM »

thank you for the kind words BK

vixmom · « **Reply #6 on:** September 12, 2011, 04:18:14 AM »

Last night, at the Vixter's behest, we watched the David Tennant version of Hamlet - it is an interesting version but not my favorite - I think I prefer the Kenneth Bragnagh version myself

vixmom · « **Reply #7 on:** September 12, 2011, 04:19:41 AM »

TOD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wCXr_6wgns

vixmom · « **Reply #8 on:** September 12, 2011, 04:26:18 AM »

hmmmm those weren't the lyrics I was expecting

Kids!
I don't know what's wrong with these kids today!
Kids!
Who can understand anything they say?
Kids!
They a disobedient, disrespectful oafs!
Noisy, crazy, dirty, lazy, loafers!
While we're on the subject:
Kids!
You can talk and talk till your face is blue!
Kids!
But they still just do what they want to do!
Why can't they be like we were,
Perfect in every way?
What's the matter with kids today?
Kids!
I've tried to raise him the best I could
Kids! Kids!
Laughing, singing, dancing, grinning, morons!
And while we're on the subject!
Kids! They are just impossible to control!
Kids! With their awful clothes and their rock an' roll!
Why can't they dance like we did
What's wrong with Sammy Caine?
What's the matter with kids today!

Michael · « **Reply #9 on:** September 12, 2011, 05:12:27 AM »

It happens in retail too.

In my Fedex location we have a lot of retail including greeting cards and candy. These are items that kids like to make a mess of it. They especially want their parents to buy them candy. The parents say no. The kids still ask and ask and ask. Or they play tag. Running around the store screaming at the top of their lungs. The parents ignore them until one of our employees makes a comment to the kids to stop it and then parents intervenes.

elmore3003 · « **Reply #10 on:** September 12, 2011, 05:36:53 AM »

Good morning, all! I was wide awake at 4am for over an hour, then I dreamed I was on a 42nd Street bus going east and wondering if I were on the right bus to cross the river. I got off the bus and I woke up.

I have several errands to run this morning before I come back to prepare to attend the opening night performance of FOLLIES this evening. I'll call my barber to see if he's got an opening, run to Toyland to turn the computer on for Curtis to check, and hit the bank. I've got to pay my estimated taxes.

Around 1977 or so, before I moved to New York, I was in a movie theatre waiting for the beginning of the first Christopher Reeve SUPERMAN movie. I was sitting in the top row of the orchestra section in an aisle seat. As the previews started, this little boy around 5 years old ran up the aisle, and then, laughing wildly, rolled down the aisle. He did it again. and again. On the fourth attempt, I turned to him and snapped, you do that one more time and I'll kick your ass. He went back to his seat.

JoseSPiano · « **Reply #11 on:** September 12, 2011, 05:54:12 AM »

Good Morning!

I'm up, I'm up... And I'm about to start playing for the final three (four?) groups of the SETC Fall Professional Auditions.

JoseSPiano · « **Reply #12 on:** September 12, 2011, 05:54:29 AM »

Oh...

Laters...

FJL · « **Reply #13 on:** September 12, 2011, 06:01:21 AM »

According to a TV commentator whose words have stayed with me but whose name I've forgotten, society has apparently changed such that these days a parent could get arrested for child abuse for what seemed like ordinary discipline just a couple of generations ago

They seemed to think that applied to teachers, too.

In the 1960s, light corporal punishment was normal in some classrooms and summer camp, while such behavior by teachers or counselors would cause an uproar these days, which feels like steps forward in terms of attitudes towards abuse, though - but perhaps with that comes the less discipline??

Dan (the Man) · « **Reply #14 on:** September 12, 2011, 06:15:53 AM »

TOD:

Years ago, I read a book on the matter by Robert Bly entitled THE SIBLING SOCIETY. While Bly's book was a bit long-winded and repetitive, he pretty much did zero-in on the problem--we now have a generation being raised by people who never grew up and properly matured themselves. So in effect, we have children raising children.

bk · « **Reply #15 on:** September 12, 2011, 06:18:26 AM »

New title announced. For those who missed it (apparently almost everyone) it's the first CD release of an early Elmer Bernstein classic - Men In War from 1957. Anthony Mann film, starring Robert Ryan and Aldo Ray. Check it out at www.kritzerland.com

elmore3003 · « **Reply #16 on:** September 12, 2011, 06:20:21 AM »

Haircut scheduled for 11:30. Things are faling into place. I guess it's time to get ready for my trip to Toyland.

Ben · « **Reply #17 on:** September 12, 2011, 06:29:49 AM »

Quote from: Dan (the Man) on September 12, 2011, 06:15:53 AM

TOD:

Years ago, I read a book on the matter by Robert Bly entitled THE SIBLING SOCIETY. While Bly's book was a bit long-winded and repetitive, he pretty much did zero-in on the problem--we now have a generation being raised by people who never grew up and properly matured themselves. So in effect, we have children raising children.

I tend to agree with that concept. People don't want to hear it but "the fault, Dear Brutus, lies not in our stars, but in our selves" I'm part of this generation and we have done some wonderful things but we are also one of the most self-centered, self-absorbed and just plain selfish generations around. We are also obsessed with immediate results. If something is broken and it's not fixed yesterday then we start screaming and that's a big problem with politics today (to go off on a tangent). Obama was inaugurated on January 20, 2009. He didn't fix every single thing that took years to break by Februrary 1st, 2009 so throw the bum out. Now I have my own issues with the man but Jesus H. Christ, we are falling down a rat hole right now. Do you think changing leadership every 10 minutes will help??? We also get what we deserve. The people of the U.S. have elected the idiots who now run this country. The same self-absorbed people who can't bother to look as they are walking down the street texting their friends and teaching their children that I AM NUMBER ONE AND ANYTHING I WANT I SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET AND SCREW ANYONE WHO STANDS IN MY WAY!!!

Enough. I must get back to work.

Kerry · « **Reply #18 on:** September 12, 2011, 06:52:53 AM »

Parents-- go figure.

Kerry · « **Reply #19 on:** September 12, 2011, 07:10:36 AM »

Take my kids----please!

Ginny · « **Reply #20 on:** September 12, 2011, 07:12:22 AM »

Monday morning greetings! Easing into the week...

Druxy · « **Reply #21 on:** September 12, 2011, 07:27:45 AM »

TOD:

I couldn't agree more with what's already been said about today's parenting methods.

If my wife and I go into a restaurant and there are screaming kids running about, we leave. That happened to us just a few months ago.

If we are already in the restaurant and have ordered when the kids start up, we complain to the manager.

Truthfully, as much as possible, we make it a point not to go to "family" restaurants.

ArnoldMBrockman · « **Reply #22 on:** September 12, 2011, 08:06:59 AM »

Quote from: bk on September 12, 2011, 12:11:22 AM

And the word of the day is: PERPEND!

And The Song Of The Day Is: REFLECTION

Laura · « **Reply #23 on:** September 12, 2011, 08:19:15 AM »

I knew I had turned into and old lady the day I came home from the zoo because there were too many children.

In my defense, however, there were dozens of school buses in the parking lot.

Ginny · « **Reply #24 on:** September 12, 2011, 08:30:24 AM »

TOD - Parenthood is the toughest job I've ever loved. Early on I read a book titled SEQUENCING, the premise of which is "Yes, you can have it all, but not necessarily all at the same time." And, for us, it was definitely a 2-person job. We are quite pleased with our result...

Jrand74 · « **Reply #25 on:** September 12, 2011, 08:43:51 AM »

I do not have children....so I cannot comment on how to raise children.

BUT - some of the children I have to be around - would be in BIG trouble....if they were MY children.

Jrand74 · « **Reply #26 on:** September 12, 2011, 08:45:52 AM »

Yesterday's Remembrance Ceremony was very nice.....and their were tears....and lots of music.....and Vickie and i received many compliments on our reading..... It was difficult - but we "delivered the news"!

Article on the ceremony with the photo album....

http://www.bannergraphic.com/story/1761664.html

And a photo of Miss Vickie and myself.

Jrand74 · « **Reply #27 on:** September 12, 2011, 08:52:17 AM »

Another Man Another Chance was in my mailbox today!

Jrand74 · « **Reply #28 on:** September 12, 2011, 09:06:18 AM »

DR JEANNE I am glad the CD's were useful ... and served their purpose!!!

elmore3003 · « **Reply #29 on:** September 12, 2011, 10:06:24 AM »

I also got in trouble with a parent with no sense of humor duting my employment at Barnes & Noble. One Saturday, during the all-out madness just before Christmas a parent let his young daughter pull an "I want" screaming fit in the middle of the main floor. the obnoxious kid screamed and carried on for over fifteen minutes while the parent ignored her. I said more loudly than intended to my co-workers, "I'll give $10 to anyone who'll push that kid under a bus." A passing parent - completely unrelated to the screaming kid - was not amused.

Another time, I got in trouble with a mother because she was letting the child she was holding continually slap hard the top of the computer I was using to look up information for her at Customer Service. After about five slaps, with no reaction from the mother, I snapped "Stop it!" and the baby started crying. The mother reported me for abusing her little child.

I must say, though, that my manager Patty was great about telling parents to remove their obnoxious children from the store.

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