Topic: WALK THE WALK, TALK THE TALK (Read 23726 times)

Dan (the Man) · « **Reply #60 on:** June 05, 2004, 12:19:34 PM »

Quote from: George on June 05, 2004, 12:10:21 PM

And this is a problem...why??

I don't have a problem with it. It's just funny to now see Logan's movies ever since I first realized that he was very much into the male physique.

Dan (the Man) · « **Reply #61 on:** June 05, 2004, 12:27:41 PM »

Page Three Dance--Everybody Conga!

Jane · « **Reply #62 on:** June 05, 2004, 12:40:31 PM »

Charles Pogue, I'm pleased to know you are both fine.

Now that you mention it, I would enjoy watching DEAR RUTH again.

bk · « **Reply #63 on:** June 05, 2004, 12:43:17 PM »

My new high Bookworm score: 611,640 - not up there in the Sandra heights, but pretty darn good for an elderly Jew.

JoseSPiano · « **Reply #64 on:** June 05, 2004, 12:43:19 PM »

Quote from: JRand53 on June 05, 2004, 12:06:42 PM

LOL DRJOSE - Her brother is in STATE FAIR with me in a barn in the middle of a field in Putnam County, Indiana! It is a small world!

It's a small world after all
It's a small world after all
It's a small world after all

...Oh, we did that whole thing a few days ago... sorry.

Jrand74 · « **Reply #65 on:** June 05, 2004, 12:53:14 PM »

LOL DR JOSE.

Interesting articles DTM. I don't mind Reidel - he is what he is. And some of the things he writes are funny....truth usually is.

Noel · « **Reply #66 on:** June 05, 2004, 01:04:39 PM »

The statement,
I didn't like the show the first time I saw it, but after subsequent viewings, it grew on me
always bothers me.

It's very expensive to go to the theatre. And the successful show (or theatre artist) must entertain the first time out. Normally, writers don't get a second chance to convince an audience their work is worthwhile.

That's not to say I'm not pleased to find that some of you have found enjoyment in a show that you didn't like the first time around. I applaud you for your faith and perseverance.

Seems to me that human beings run a wide gamut of mental health. Some of us need to see shrinks regularly, and that's fine. Some of us are crazy enough to fire guns at presidents, and that's just not acceptable behavior. When I first saw Assassins, years ago, I was interested in what Weidman and Sondheim had to say about the collection of crazies they portrayed. The women who shot at Ford have a dialogue that's kind of a collegiate comedy sketch. Oswald, they suggest, was inspired by the assassins of the past (and future). I learned nothing new about Hinckly. Nothing I didn't already know about Czolgosz. Learned some stuff about the ones I haven't mentioned. I don't think there's any connection between me and any assassin. Sure, I have passionate political beliefs, but many of these people didn't. I would never fire a gun, own a gun, or touch a gun. So, nothing in Assassins indicts me, or makes me feel I've anything in common with the criminally insane.

To tell the truth, I'm at a loss to figure out what Sondheim and Weidman are saying about the American assassins, but I haven't seen this Broadway version yet.

Panni · « **Reply #67 on:** June 05, 2004, 01:13:25 PM »

JR - The CD has arrived! What a wonderfully eclectic mix! Where else but on this, the best sit on the Internet, could I meet a person who would put together a CD for me which features (among MANY glorious selections) Annette Sings! and the Hawaiian War Chant? (Not to mention the 50 Foot Woman Medley and I Love Lucy). I'm going out to do a few errands and will be listening in the car. THANK YOU, JR!

Jrand74 · « **Reply #68 on:** June 05, 2004, 01:31:04 PM »

So happy you are enjoying it DRPANNI! LOL....it was made by human hands for human hearts and ears!

Jrand74 · « **Reply #69 on:** June 05, 2004, 01:36:40 PM »

Speaking of which WEL - thanks for the MAY theatre care package. Whew! It is wonderful to see the programs!!!!

You don't know....water in the desert! Haven't had a chance to read them all, but I will do it when I get home from STATE FAIR...the show, not the event!

Sandra · « **Reply #70 on:** June 05, 2004, 01:39:34 PM »

Hey, nice going BK.

I am hungry.

My brother is being annoying.

elmore3003 · « **Reply #71 on:** June 05, 2004, 01:47:32 PM »

Hello, all! I was E&T yesterday, still trying to meet my Monday morning deadline for this concert with the New York and Seattle Men's Choruses, "Out On Broadway."

I have to be finished by 7am, get everything copied and into Fed Ex, clean house, pack, and meet the bus to Camp Goodspeed by 2pm! If I'm lucky I'll have time to edit a Eubie Blake tune or a BABES IN TOYLAND score before noon! So, this may be my last post for a couple of weeks until I get back into the City to gather some mail, maybe do a bit of editorial work and see the new Harry Potter film.

Dear Friend BK, Glenn Young of Applause Books is not returning my inquiries about your doing a reading, I'm sorry to say. I've called around three times now, after I stopped in the store and left my card, and I'm feeling a bit discouraged. Would some NYC DR like to take up the slack while I'm away?

JoseSPiano · « **Reply #72 on:** June 05, 2004, 01:58:34 PM »

Quote from: Noel on June 05, 2004, 01:04:39 PM

The statement,
I didn't like the show the first time I saw it, but after subsequent viewings, it grew on me
always bothers me.

It's very expensive to go to the theatre. And the successful show (or theatre artist) must entertain the first time out. Normally, writers don't get a second chance to convince an audience their work is worthwhile.

That's not to say I'm not pleased to find that some of you have found enjoyment in a show that you didn't like the first time around. I applaud you for your faith and perseverance.

Seems to me that human beings run a wide gamut of mental health. Some of us need to see shrinks regularly, and that's fine. Some of us are crazy enough to fire guns at presidents, and that's just not acceptable behavior. When I first saw Assassins, years ago, I was interested in what Weidman and Sondheim had to say about the collection of crazies they portrayed. The women who shot at Ford have a dialogue that's kind of a collegiate comedy sketch. Oswald, they suggest, was inspired by the assassins of the past (and future). I learned nothing new about Hinckly. Nothing I didn't already know about Czolgosz. Learned some stuff about the ones I haven't mentioned. I don't think there's any connection between me and any assassin. Sure, I have passionate political beliefs, but many of these people didn't. I would never fire a gun, own a gun, or touch a gun. So, nothing in Assassins indicts me, or makes me feel I've anything in common with the criminally insane.

To tell the truth, I'm at a loss to figure out what Sondheim and Weidman are saying about the American assassins, but I haven't seen this Broadway version yet.

I guess - well, not guess - what I am trying to say about Assassins is that the "success" of the evening depends upon how the director wishes to portray the people, the assassins, in the show. -Regardless of whatever Mssrs. Sondheim and Weidman had in mind; regardless of whatever point they were trying to make when they were writing it.

I've seen Assassins a few times, and I've MDed the show too. For myself, the show only really worked when the director and actors found a way to make the assassins sympathetic. Or at least get the audience to ask, "What exactly was the one straw that broke the camel's back? What pushed them over the edge?" -And then to backtrack to the fact that these assassins, these people were "normal" at one time. Just like we are "normal".

-And at times, this approach may seem to work against Weidman's text.

And I would also say that if a piece of theatre, movie, book, teleplay was not "totally entertaining" the first time I saw it, but it made me want to try to figure it out, to want to see it again if possible, then I would think some sort of "mission" has been accomplished. And I would also venture that some of the most acclaimed pieces of Art throughout history were not fully understood nor fully entertaining upon first experience.

-Sorry for starting all those sentences with "and"...

Jrand74 · « **Reply #73 on:** June 05, 2004, 02:07:04 PM »

And that's okay.

George · « **Reply #74 on:** June 05, 2004, 02:59:42 PM »

I am at work right now and I've been here since noon. Anyway, I logged into my computer and went to the Comcast.net homepage and they had an article saying that former President Reagan's family had been called home because he's taken a turn for the worse and could die within the next weeks or months...they didn't know. I just went back to Comcast.net and it's just been announced that he's died. "In Paris, White House spokeswoman Claire Buchan said President Bush was notified of Reagan's death in Paris at about 4:10 p.m., EDT, by White House chief of staff Andy Card." That would make the announcement at 1:10 PDT. Here's a link to the Associated press story (which is where Comcast got its story).

Noel · « **Reply #75 on:** June 05, 2004, 03:03:47 PM »

Quote from: JoseSPiano on June 05, 2004, 01:58:34 PM

And I would also say that if a piece of theatre, movie, book, teleplay was not "totally entertaining" the first time I saw it, but it made me want to try to figure it out, to want to see it again if possible, then I would think some sort of "mission" has been accomplished. And I would also venture that some of the most acclaimed pieces of Art throughout history were not fully understood nor fully entertaining upon first experience.

I think we're in agreement then, DR Jose. If the audience for Assassins feels its gotten its $100 worth, then my hat's off to Sondheim, Weidman and Mantello.

Panni · « **Reply #76 on:** June 05, 2004, 03:06:36 PM »

Still listening, JR. Listened in the car, now have it on at home. Wonderful! I'm going to pause now. Have to do more writing - and this is definitely not background music.
I guess when they ask me in years to come "What were you doing when you heard Ronald Reagan had died?" I can answer, "'Listening to 'Salt Peanuts.'..."

Matt H. · « **Reply #77 on:** June 05, 2004, 03:07:56 PM »

I am very happy that my DVR picked up last night a movie I've been trying to get for a long time - PORTRAIT OF JENNIE. I've always found this movie strange, lovely, compelling. Seems like there was an actual DVD of it released, but I think it's out of print. At any rate, I have my own now. Looking forward to watching it tonight or tomorrow. I started THE LAST OF SHEILA this afternoon and will finish it tonight. Didn't mind stopping after I'd started since I've seen it many times and know what's going to happen.

bk · « **Reply #78 on:** June 05, 2004, 03:08:05 PM »

Okay, which of our East Coasters can take up the slack re the book signing. Elmore has tried with Applause, to no avail, so why doesn't someone try The Drama Book Shop.

Charles Pogue · « **Reply #79 on:** June 05, 2004, 03:26:41 PM »

BK, your Derby-winning horse, Smarty Jones, will be running momentarily on NBC in The Belmont Stakes, trying to become the first undefeated horse to win the Triple Crown since Seattle Slew. Tune in!

DERBRUCER · « **Reply #80 on:** June 05, 2004, 03:53:03 PM »

Noel posted:

Quote

The statement,
I didn't like the show the first time I saw it, but after subsequent viewings, it grew on me
always bothers me.

It's very expensive to go to the theatre. And the successful show (or theatre artist) must entertain the first time out. Normally, writers don't get a second chance to convince an audience their work is worthwhile.

Jose replied:

Quote

And I would also say that if a piece of theatre, movie, book, teleplay was not "totally entertaining" the first time I saw it, but it made me want to try to figure it out, to want to see it again if possible, then I would think some sort of "mission" has been accomplished. And I would also venture that some of the most acclaimed pieces of Art throughout history were not fully understood nor fully entertaining upon first experience.

Which dialogue highlights a unique artistic dilemma for theatrical works – they usually get only one bite of the apple.
We think nothing of “warming up” to an orchestral piece, a painting, a sculpture, or a collection of poems. Indeed, most of us relate fondly how the work “grew on us”, how we delighted in discovering new nuances not at first apparent. Some might suggest that a hallmark of great art is that it presents itself in many layers of craftsmanship – the first piques our curiosity, the next engages us, and, like Eliot’s (or, if you insist, Dante’s) multifoliate rose, following layers unfold revealing new delights. How many given a second chance to see Seurat’s “Sunday Afternoon”, or to hear again Beethoven’s Ninth Symphony, or visit anew with the Pieta, would reply, “No Thanks. Been, there, done that.”

Because theatre at it’s heart demands our “presence” (and as Noel so rightfully observes, charges us dearly for the pleasure) it suffers from a “sink or swim” exposure syndrome not afflicted on the other arts.

der Brucer (waiting 47 years to use "multifoliate" in a sentence)

Charles Pogue · « **Reply #81 on:** June 05, 2004, 03:53:10 PM »

Smarty didn't make it, lost in the final seconds of the race.

DERBRUCER · « **Reply #82 on:** June 05, 2004, 03:54:05 PM »

Not a happy news day for Philadelphia Republicans.

Jay · « **Reply #83 on:** June 05, 2004, 04:07:21 PM »

Quote from: DERBRUCER on June 05, 2004, 10:37:14 AM

Do you recommend the pricey CD import?

der Brucer (always on the lookout for youngster friendly material)

I am not familiar with any of the recordings of the opera, which I assume are in the original German, so I really can't say.

Jay · « **Reply #84 on:** June 05, 2004, 04:09:15 PM »

Quote from: JRand53 on June 05, 2004, 11:04:26 AM

DRJAY do you recommend a particular recording of DIE KLUGE. I would like to hear it.

See post above. Last night was the first time I ever heard a note of the piece.

Jennifer · « **Reply #85 on:** June 05, 2004, 04:11:26 PM »

DR Jane: How on earth did you figure out that DR MBarnum's brother was your Fed Ex guy?

Dan (the Man) · « **Reply #86 on:** June 05, 2004, 04:12:34 PM »

Quote from: JRand53 on June 05, 2004, 12:53:14 PM

LOL DR JOSE.

Interesting articles DTM. I don't mind Reidel - he is what he is. And some of the things he writes are funny....truth usually is.

Yeah, Reidel can be funny. But there's always a mean ugly streak behind it. The little boy who got beat up regularly still has some issues that he needs to deal with.

Jennifer · « **Reply #87 on:** June 05, 2004, 04:15:59 PM »

Just saw the news about President Reagan when I brought up my yahoo homepage.

I watched the Belmont Stakes. WOW!

I was hoping Smarty Jones would win. But I could see the winning horse (Birdstone) coming up the side.

Danise · « **Reply #88 on:** June 05, 2004, 04:16:59 PM »

Evening all! Sorry I didn’t make it back to post last night. I got tied up on the phone when I called a friend about the waterspout. I had to tell about my trips and by the time I got off the phone it was past ten!

Beets! I’m not 100% crazy on them but have ate them since I was a kid. My Mother always makes them with the juice in the can, a little water, vinegar, salt, pepper and sugar. She also cuts an onion and puts that in with it. Sometimes she puts hard boiled eggs in with it as well. It turns them pinkish/red.

She does the same with green beans.

I’ve made both of them and taken them to work for different dinners we’ve had and people seem to have liked them. I’ve been asked for the recipe many times.

I have to say that I like the green beans more than I like the beets.

Oy, Jason! I don’t know what to say about what you saw! Gross. I’m glad you didn’t have your camera either! LOL!

Tomovoz, I have the DVD of the Mr. Crawford version of “Barnum”. I hope you enjoy your copy as much as I have mine. I love the “bloopers” that were left in.

Elmore, I hope you finish what your working on and have a good time where your going. We’ll miss you on the board!

Is JAG on DVD? I’ll have to get those if it is. I love that show. It’s one of the few that I take the time to sit and watch.

While I was out and about today I bought the book, “Wicked”. I’m looking forward to reading it but I have to read “Dune-The Machine Crusade” first.

Someday, when I get the bigger house, I will have a room like yours Bruce and I will have all hardback copies of the entire Dune series. I know I missed the “Ask BK a question day” but I’m going to ask anyway. Have you ever read “Dune”? Has anyone else here read it? What did you think?

Jay · « **Reply #89 on:** June 05, 2004, 04:17:59 PM »

I ducked into my local second-run art house movie theatre this afternoon and caught up with Connie and Carla, a thoroughly enjoyable piece of musical cinematic fluff.

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Author Topic: WALK THE WALK, TALK THE TALK (Read 23726 times)