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Re:THE ZONKED NOTES
« Reply #30 on: July 30, 2004, 05:20:43 AM »

Well....having a talent competition begs the question that you have a talent to show.  I enjoyed watching the 1958 Miss America Contest earlier this year on TRIO.  Interesting "talent" segment, not all BAD, but not all that interesting either.
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« Reply #31 on: July 30, 2004, 05:42:24 AM »

I will be alone this whole week. Anthony has clown shows on Saturday and Sunday and then ... He's making some radiator covers for the apartment and his father has a workroom w/all those sexy power tools. He's also finishing some sewing, curtains, a bed skirt and a cover to hide the TV tray tables. From power tools to sewing machines. What a jump.

Please let me be the first to ask:  Will these radiator covers be like "coseys", or is he going to be sawing, nailing, etc.?
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« Reply #32 on: July 30, 2004, 05:51:57 AM »

Surley one of the DRs has a pattern for crochéd covers for radiators.
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Re:THE ZONKED NOTES
« Reply #33 on: July 30, 2004, 05:54:47 AM »

CD - Lionel Bart's LA STRADA, Rodgers & Hart's EVER GREEN (2 words indicates the British stage version as opposed to the one word movie), 2 Merman LPs from the 60s newly released on one CD

DVD - Probably the original CHEAPER BY THE DOZEN/BELLES ON THEIR TOES

WHS - Nothing
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« Reply #34 on: July 30, 2004, 05:55:34 AM »

Well. I've made it to the end of my first week back at work since my arm-breaking fall two weeks ago today.

Some of you might be amazed to learn that my cast-like splint was removed Wednesday morning!  X-rays were taken and my doctor announced that things look good.  I was then given a removable hinged splint that was "set" to give me a restricted range of motion.  My challenge is to maximize my ability to operate within that range over the next three weeks after which a new goal will be set.  I can remove splint to allow cleansing/moisturizing/light massage and/or a good scratch!

It's all very new and aggressive to me!

My arm is swollen, very bruised and quite "sore."  When a day is done and I've done more than I ought in using it, it positively "aches."

VCR: Nada
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CD: TONS of things. including the Bacharach recordings mentioned last week of which I've listened to only a selection or two on each CD.

Latest eBay acquisition:  Window card for "Funny Girl", featuring original cast listing.
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« Reply #35 on: July 30, 2004, 05:55:53 AM »

These are, of course, subjective opinions, not facts, but I said Wildhorn and Eder are talentless for a few reasons:

Wildhorn, before he started writing for the theatre, was a fairly successful writer of pop songs.  In the theatre, pop songwriters (such as Rupert Holmes) are welcomed, as long as they move away from the cliches that make pop sell and dramatize characters and situations as has to happen in the theatre.

The three Wildhorn musicals lost more money on Broadway than the combined career Broadway output of any other writer.  The shows were set in Victorian England, the French Revolution, and the American Civil War.  And yet, for the most part, the scores were set firmly in the same century: late 20th.  (He also befouled the score of Victor/Victoria after Henry Mancini died... different setting, same old junk.)

All had lyrics that made me laugh out loud, not with them, but at them - howlingly funny without intending to.  One song keeps throwing different adjectives in front of the noun, "moment" and one of these adjectives is "momentous."  If a kid in a fourth grade writing class did that, he'd be sent back to third grade.

But wait, I hear you say, Wildhorn isn't responsible for the lyrics; he's the composer.  The hell he isn't!  When a good composer is handed a horrible cliche like "someone like you loves someone like me and suddenly nothing is the same" he sends his lyricist back to the drawing board.  I can't imagine Jule Styne accepting that line.

But each lyrical cliche is matched by a musical cliche, and such things are a little harder to explain.  (It's easy to point to a bad lyric.)  Take A New Life.  Please!

A new life
What I wouldn't give to have a gnu life
Better than a pig or kangaroo life
If I must be furry, set me free

OK, so that's not the lyric, but the tune keeps hitting the rhythm of the middle two lines incessantly, always leading to an ill-chosen rhyme.  It puts one to sleep.  Sometimes, the singer will combat the dullness of the compositional lines, by singing REALLY LOUD.

Which brings us to Linda Eder, who sings really loud.  And in a Streisandish mode.  What I concern myself with, most days, is making sure that musical theatre performers are living each moment, acting the hell out of their songs.  Eder is wholly unable to do this, which is why, perhaps, she's never been cast in anything her husband wasn't involved with.  It doesn't matter what she's singing (I am I, Don Quixote, the lord of La Mancha...) she merely sings it loudly.  No acting, no facial expression.  She's what my wife calls a park-and-bark.  She stands and bellows forth.

I'm not saying its an unattractive sound.  But when sound seems to have no thought behind it, it's boring.

Which brings up one more point about Wildhorn.   Sometimes, he puts so much time between phrases, you could drive a truck through them.

Tell my father that I'm dead (pause, pause)
And tell Fred (pause, pause)
Our chaffeur (pause, pause)
Tell my father that I cried (pause, pause)
As I died.

I know some people like that song, but I can't hear it without falling asleep.
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Re:THE ZONKED NOTES
« Reply #36 on: July 30, 2004, 06:02:51 AM »

Surley one of the DRs has a pattern for crochéd covers for radiators.

It's mind-boggling is what it is!  I expect they could operate a web-based business with these things!

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« Reply #37 on: July 30, 2004, 06:38:00 AM »

RLP, no coseys they. The radiator covers will be wood w/a metal grate in the front (we need two, one for the living room and one for the bed room). We live in an old building w/those big old honker radiators that take up lots of space. Since my upstairs neighbor and my downstairs neighbor both LOVE  their heat in the winter we rarely turn the radiators on. It has to be really, really cold for us to use them so we will get more use out of them with well designed and functional covers at much less cost than any of the hardware stores in Manhattan would charge to make said covers. I'll try to remember to take pictures when they are finished and I'll post for all to see.
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« Reply #38 on: July 30, 2004, 06:56:23 AM »

The Miss America pageant is pulling the plug on its talent competition, eliminating the amateurish two-minute routines that have come to feature cheesy stunts such as tractor driving and trampoline jumping.

Instead, this year's crowning Sept. 18 will showcase some of the women performing in a videotaped montage culled from talent routines staged in preliminary competition.

Just one contestant chosen by the pageant's producers will perform live, after the selection of the five finalists for Miss America 2005. ABC-TV is trimming the telecast to two hours this year.

"It's the cornerstone of our organization. It's what sets us apart," said Miss America CEO Art McMaster. "If it were up to me, I'd show all 52 talents on TV. But when you're in a collaborative effort, as we are with ABC, there had to be a compromise somewhere


You have absolutely NO idea how discouraged and dismayed I am by this news.  Dear Partner John and I haev always been BIG Miss America fans (as is his father...), and the talent competition was always our second favorite portion of the evening (well, evening gowns still come first).  We were pissed off enough when they started only showing five talents instead of all ten, but this is just the end of the line.....!
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Re:THE ZONKED NOTES
« Reply #39 on: July 30, 2004, 06:59:17 AM »

DR Elmore, sorry your back is still hurting you.  Feel better soon.
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« Reply #40 on: July 30, 2004, 07:00:40 AM »

How does the  Miss America pageant have 52 contestants?  I know I haven't been watching the news lately, but I thought there were still only 50 states.  Okay, so maybe Puerto Rico counts for 51, but how do they get to 52?  Was their a tie?

Growing up, my family and I used the watch the pageant religiously every year.  And for many of those years, we still had a black and white television so we would have to guess what colors the ladies were wearing.  When we got a color television it wasn't as much fun to watch any more.  Progress is the root of all evil.
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Re:THE ZONKED NOTES
« Reply #41 on: July 30, 2004, 07:00:42 AM »

For any Big Brother watchers who want to know who won HOH.  Check out this detailed live transcript.  It looks like it was a great contest.

http://www.tvrules.net/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=5428

http://www.tvrules.net/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=5430
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« Reply #42 on: July 30, 2004, 07:03:28 AM »

Thank you, thank you, a thousand times thank you Dear Reader Noel - I thought I was alone in my frustration of Ms. Eder not being able to act her way through a song.  All the vocal pyrotechnics in the world mean nothing to me if a performer is unable to give meaning to what they are singing.
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« Reply #43 on: July 30, 2004, 07:06:07 AM »

For any Big Brother watchers who want to know who won HOH.  Check out this detailed live transcript.  It looks like it was a great contest.

http://www.tvrules.net/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=5428

http://www.tvrules.net/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=5430

Thank goodness!  This should be a much better week, and I can't wait to see everyone's expressions when Natalie shows up....!
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« Reply #44 on: July 30, 2004, 07:07:01 AM »

Currently in my cd player:  Sherry!
Currently in my dvd player:  Oz, Season 2, Disc 3

Show Boat closes tomorrow night and then it's back to Pennsylvania for me.  I'm sad to see the show close and will miss my new friends, but I will be happy to return to my home and not have to share my bathroom with six other people.  Today I must face my packing.  I don't know how I've accumulated to much more stuff since I've been here, I'm a pack rat and I think I just need to throw some stuff out.
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« Reply #45 on: July 30, 2004, 07:07:50 AM »

Media Check:
CD/Office:  Rosemary Clooney: "Showtunes"
CD/Car: RAGTIME
VCR: Nothing
DVD:  NOthing now, but will be holding THE SHAPE OF THINGS, and the Carnegie Hall Sondheim Tribute at some point over the weekend.
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« Reply #46 on: July 30, 2004, 07:11:44 AM »

I read recently about some films being in the public domain and I was wondering if anyone could explain what that means in the context of films.  

Also, will musicals ever enter into the public domain and what will that mean for the state of the art?
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« Reply #47 on: July 30, 2004, 07:12:50 AM »

All week I've been errant and truent, and I guess today I have a lot to say.  I have more, but will hold off until tomorrow.  Have a good day everyone!
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« Reply #48 on: July 30, 2004, 07:18:11 AM »

Thank goodness!  This should be a much better week, and I can't wait to see everyone's expressions when Natalie shows up....!

I was happy with the winner as well. I can't believe they stood for that long.

I still cannot really figure out why the Horsemen changed their vote.  Stupid strategy.

But I laughed when I saw Holly's reaction to Natalie.  It's like she couldn't figure out how there could be two. :)

So Natalie appears on next Thursday's show.  Yeah, that should be good.  
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« Reply #49 on: July 30, 2004, 07:22:59 AM »

Media check:

CD: Two wonderfu CDs of pop groups from Finland courtesy of our friend in OZ...a man with one heck of an amazing musical collection!! Thanks Tom!!!!

VCR: A tape of the Matt Battaglia QAF episodes courtesy of DR MattH! A big thanks to Matt for sending those!!!!!

DVD: Japanese sci-fi from the 50s, THE MYSTERIANS in Japanese with English subtitles...haven't seen this film since I was a kid.

Stay tuned for this weekends Bollywood movies!
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« Reply #50 on: July 30, 2004, 07:23:55 AM »

Re: Miss America's 52 contestants, I know the District Of Columbia is one.
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« Reply #51 on: July 30, 2004, 07:58:07 AM »

All I can say about the decision to eliminate the talent portion of the pageant on television is that I'm glad my mom is no longer here to see this. It would have killed her. One of her most anticipated events of the year was watching and critiquing all of the talents on the show each year.

Everyone makes fun of the talent portion, but I can remember down through the years that she and I watched it together being electrified by some of the women, and not always the winners. If I was a regular watcher any more (I watched last year for the first time in deacdes since Clay Aiken appeared on the show to open it with "This Is the Night"), this would lose me as a viewer.
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« Reply #52 on: July 30, 2004, 08:04:41 AM »

Friday Media Check:

CD - YOU'RE A GOOD MAN, CHARLIE BROWN (Revival Cast) and AVENUE Q

DVD - MYSTIC RIVER and "Devil's Foot" episode of THE RETURN OF SHERLOCK HOLMES.
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« Reply #53 on: July 30, 2004, 08:23:49 AM »

This morning I went for a walk, and this is what I saw:
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« Reply #54 on: July 30, 2004, 08:30:45 AM »

CD:  Jack Donahue- Strange Weather
DVD:  Showgirls VIP Edition, which is fantastically campy...
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« Reply #55 on: July 30, 2004, 08:32:21 AM »

Not much to my Media Check this week.  I've pretty much been watching the Dems Convention for the past four days, and aside from the new kd lang CD, I haven't been listening to any music either, at home or at work.  I think I taped the premier episode of Dennis Leary's Rescue Me, but I neglected to tape this week's episode.

I am in a state of media-ho-humm.  However, I have this afternoon off, so I'm going to go see The Village.  I've read a few good reviews this morning.
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« Reply #56 on: July 30, 2004, 08:53:48 AM »

The local movie critic gave THE VILLAGE three stars out of four. Also gave the same rating to THE MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE.
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« Reply #57 on: July 30, 2004, 09:09:37 AM »

Off to a story meeting. Meaning I'm getting NOTES. :P
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« Reply #58 on: July 30, 2004, 09:12:36 AM »

I only have 17 more days to read before I'm all caught up with the December notes! It's taken me a long time to get through them. I was E&T for most of December (from Thanksgiving on actually). I popped in here and there but it's interesting to go back and see what was discussed months ago.
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« Reply #59 on: July 30, 2004, 09:22:29 AM »

I'm not quite caught up from the postings at the end of last week when I was gone. Should be finished by the end of the weekend.
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