I am thrilled that I figured out how to hook my computer up to my tv so I can sit in my recliner and watch the webinar. I had planned to drive to Des Moines for it. I haven't seen a lot of those people for a long time, but I'm doing it this way so I'm here for Cal. One of the speakers is Dean Strange, one of the lawyers from Making a Murderer. I know Jerry Buting, the other defense lawyer and may have met Dean, but I don't know for sure. Guess I won't be able to ask him that now