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« Reply #150 on: December 20, 2004, 08:18:58 PM »

Clairol sponsored ROMANCE, ROMANCE, I know, and perhaps those NUNSENSE TV versions, too.
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« Reply #151 on: December 20, 2004, 08:19:20 PM »

I wasn't aware that so many Paint Your Wagon songs weren't recorded, Michael.

I grew up in the Bronx, and one of the members of our temple was Seymor Penzner. His stage name was Robert Penn, and he played Jake ("Hand Me Down That Can of Beans") in the original Paint Your Wagon. Do you know if he sang any of the unrecorded numbers?

Mr. Penzner directed and helped to create several temple shows. He made it an extremely exciting time for everyone - even those, like me, who merely painted the scenery.

Small World isn't it (A Styne/Sondheim Reference)

He played the character of Jack Whippany. Since I am not familar with the show and no longer have the cast album I can't answer that question.

Mr. Penn/Penzer also appeared on Broadway in  Oklahoma!, Miss Liberty, Call Me Madam, Can-Can, Kean and the musical version of Cafe Crown

Since DR Ellmoore has the score he might be able to answer your question.
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« Reply #152 on: December 20, 2004, 08:22:16 PM »

I had myself a Julie Andrews evening, too: STAR! and MARY POPPINS. Both excellent.
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« Reply #153 on: December 20, 2004, 08:26:36 PM »

I had myself a Julie Andrews evening, too: STAR! and MARY POPPINS. Both excellent.

I have to wait until Saturday when I get them.
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« Reply #154 on: December 20, 2004, 08:26:40 PM »

Wow, DR Jane, that was a busy few days! I am glad it went well and that you are home safely!

I am watching WHAT IF? the DVD and it is so much fun! Paul Haber's singing of Millions of Men is superb, and the West Side Story song is great! The Plastic Surgery song had me in stitches!
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« Reply #155 on: December 20, 2004, 08:30:19 PM »

As for other musicals that were available: at one time I also had Purlie, The American Dance Machine (which recreated original Broadway choreography) Lee Becker was its founder and there was a special done in LA that had original cast members recreated musical moments. The video tape was an abridge version while the PBS version was complete. I remember Glynnis Johns and Len Cariou doing the complete Send In the Clowns. There was also the gals from Company doing You Can Drive a Person Crazy. among others
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« Reply #156 on: December 20, 2004, 08:30:28 PM »

Clairol sponsored ROMANCE, ROMANCE, I know, and perhaps those NUNSENSE TV versions, too.
Yes, it was Clairol behind Nunsense I & II.  (And underneath their wimples, they have curlers in their hair.)
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« Reply #157 on: December 20, 2004, 08:36:32 PM »

Yes, it was Clairol behind Nunsense I & II.  (And underneath their wimples, they have curlers in their hair.)

I even heard them singing in  the Abbey
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« Reply #158 on: December 20, 2004, 08:38:34 PM »

Just rechecked my notes and just saw that  Take The Wheels Off The Wagon
was added to the tour. I suspected that alot of the unrecorded numbers where dance numbers. Did Trude Rittman one of the great unsung people of the Broadway musical, compose any of the dance music? She usually went uncrecited for the shows that she did write for.

Well, she never went totally uncredited; people often didn't know how much she actually did.  She told me with Kurt Weill and Fritz Lowe she worked out the rhythm charts and they composed the dance music to fit her patterns for the choreography.  With ONE TOUCH OF VENUS, I'm sure the ballet music is all Weill's, but I've always thought the great melodies in the Bonnie Jean and Come to Me, Bend to Me dances were Trude's.  Maybe not, but unfortunately, Trude's mental state is so bad now that we'll never know.

In CAROUSEL, the wonderful hornpipe following "Blow High, Blow Low" is based on that song and the music to "when I work in the mill, weavin' at the loom."   Her musical skills were boggling, and I don't think there's anyone today in her class.  There are some talented dance arrangers working now, but I don't think they make music of it as Trude did.   In the CAROUSEL ballet in Act Two, she turns Mr Snow's "I own a little boat" into a pompous polonaise for him and his brood that is not just right but funny at the same time.  Almost all of "The Small House of Uncle Thomas" is Trude's, and if the figure behind Simon Legree isn't clear enough, Trude reinforces it with a variation on "A Puzzlement" to help the audience out.  I think that moment and the austere version of "Hello, Young Lovers" in the ice walking sequence may be the only two moments of Rodgers in the ballet!
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« Reply #159 on: December 20, 2004, 08:39:54 PM »

 I am tired of hearing the following Broadway songs. There should be a ban on any further recordings of:

Memory
Send In the Clowns
Medowlark
Music of the Night
I Dreamed a Dream (hate the english translation)
anything by Frank Wildhorn

I am sure there are others. Any one care to add to the list.
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« Reply #160 on: December 20, 2004, 08:42:45 PM »

Well, she never went totally uncredited; people often didn't know how much she actually did.  She told me with Kurt Weill and Fritz Lowe she worked out the rhythm charts and they composed the dance music to fit her patterns for the choreography.  With ONE TOUCH OF VENUS, I'm sure the ballet music is all Weill's, but I've always thought the great melodies in the Bonnie Jean and Come to Me, Bend to Me dances were Trude's.  Maybe not, but unfortunately, Trude's mental state is so bad now that we'll never know.

In CAROUSEL, the wonderful hornpipe following "Blow High, Blow Low" is based on that song and the music to "when I work in the mill, weavin' at the loom."   Her musical skills were boggling, and I don't think there's anyone today in her class.  There are some talented dance arrangers working now, but I don't think they make music of it as Trude did.   In the CAROUSEL ballet in Act Two, she turns Mr Snow's "I own a little boat" into a pompous polonaise for him and his brood that is not just right but funny at the same time.  Almost all of "The Small House of Uncle Thomas" is Trude's, and if the figure behind Simon Legree isn't clear enough, Trude reinforces it with a variation on "A Puzzlement" to help the audience out.  I think that moment and the austere version of "Hello, Young Lovers" in the ice walking sequence may be the only two moments of Rodgers in the ballet!

Sorry to hear she is in poor health. I don't think she ever received the acknowledgement or the recognition  she deserved
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« Reply #161 on: December 20, 2004, 08:42:45 PM »


He played the character of Jack Whippany. Since I am not familar with the show and no longer have the cast album I can't answer that question.

Since DR Ellmoore has the score he might be able to answer your question.

Well, Jake Whippany has the scene in "I'm on my way" with Kay Medford as Cherry before he sings a refrain of the song and he sings "Rumson Town."
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« Reply #162 on: December 20, 2004, 08:44:04 PM »

Agnes de Mille's dances for PAINT YOUR WAGON got better reviews than Alan Lerner's book and he never forgave her.  That's why Hanya Holm did MY FAIR LADY and CAMELOT.
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« Reply #163 on: December 20, 2004, 08:48:53 PM »

Yes, it was Clairol behind Nunsense I & II.  (And underneath their wimples, they have curlers in their hair.)

I remember running into Terri White at 88's (God I miss that place) whenever I was in NYC. She used to work there inbetween stage stints and she loved talking to me about Nunsense and Barnum. She would often perform her showstopper from Barnum Thank God I'm Old. Sometimes she would do the blusely parts of Black and WHite
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« Reply #164 on: December 20, 2004, 08:50:10 PM »

Agnes de Mille's dances for PAINT YOUR WAGON got better reviews than Alan Lerner's book and he never forgave her.  That's why Hanya Holm did MY FAIR LADY and CAMELOT.

The dances/musical stagings in My Fair Lady cannot compare to the Agnes De Mille Dances in Paint Your Wagon
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« Reply #165 on: December 20, 2004, 08:56:11 PM »

Sorry to hear she is in poor health. I don't think she ever received the acknowledgement or the recognition  she deserved

She was a student at the conservatory in Cologne and she studied with a great composer, Braunfels, whom the Nazis banned and who deserves more recognition today.  His opera THE BIRDS is quite beautiful.  I think she liked me because I knew a bit about Braunfels and had heard the opera.  

Trude's in a home in Lexington, Massachusetts, in her mid-90's I believe, and very frail.  I went to visit her around 10 years ago, and she was charming and energetic.  Unfortunately, she tired quickly, and her mind was sharpest in the morning.  I took with me some manuscripts of cut numbers from ON A CLEAR DAY to show her, and she had no memory of them!

I don't think there's a clear mind any more, and I expect any day now to hear of her death.  She was left an income in Fritz Lowe's will (I think they may have been a couple at some point) and I believe she has some royalty income from Rodgers & Hammerstein.  I'm very fond of her and so happy to have had a chance to know her, however slightly.
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« Reply #166 on: December 20, 2004, 08:58:49 PM »

Good Evening!

Note to producers: Never have a show on a Monday night unless you regularly have shows on Monday nights.

...We had fun tonight, but we only played to about a 1/2 house, and in Kreeger, a 1/2 house is very noticable.  I think there were just a few people in the front row of the balcony, and that was it for the balcony.  -And I think those people were the members from the MILLIE cast that is currently at the Kennedy Center.  I also think THE IMPORTANCE OF BEING EARNEST in the Fichlander was also sparsely populated tonight.

But the audience was great and liked the show, so...

-Oh, and I stopped for groceries on the way home too.  Isn't that just too, too exciting?!?!? Huh?!?!  Isn't it?

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« Reply #167 on: December 20, 2004, 09:00:58 PM »

She was a student at the conservatory in Cologne and she studied with a great composer, Braunfels, whom the Nazis banned and who deserves more recognition today.  His opera THE BIRDS is quite beautiful.  I think she liked me because I knew a bit about Braunfels and had heard the opera.  

Trude's in a home in Lexington, Massachusetts, in her mid-90's I believe, and very frail.  I went to visit her around 10 years ago, and she was charming and energetic.  Unfortunately, she tired quickly, and her mind was sharpest in the morning.  I took with me some manuscripts of cut numbers from ON A CLEAR DAY to show her, and she had no memory of them!

I don't think there's a clear mind any more, and I expect any day now to hear of her death.  She was left an income in Fritz Lowe's will (I think they may have been a couple at some point) and I believe she has some royalty income from Rodgers & Hammerstein.  I'm very fond of her and so happy to have had a chance to know her, however slightly.

Thanks again Larry,

And I will ask you about On a Clear Day.. tomorrow
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« Reply #168 on: December 20, 2004, 09:02:51 PM »

I am tired of hearing the following Broadway songs. There should be a ban on any further recordings of:

Memory
Send In the Clowns
Medowlark
Music of the Night
I Dreamed a Dream (hate the english translation)
anything by Frank Wildhorn

I am sure there are others. Any one care to add to the list.

...Well, just stop putting those CDs in your CD players and/or hit the Skip button! ;)

As for my additions to the list... Just search back a few weeks to the overdone audition songs list.
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« Reply #169 on: December 20, 2004, 09:10:00 PM »

Speaking of cookbooks, has anyone else seen the new Gourmet Cookbook? It weighs more than five pounds and sells for $55 (Canadian). But the recipe and note titles are all in an extremely pale yellow on a cream-colored paper - and virtually unreadable.

Apparently, it was a printer's and proofer's error... The next printing is supposed to remedy the problem with dark brown or black printing for the titles.  However, after finally looking at the book, it's not that pale... But it does it make it hard to do a casual browse of the book by recipe title.  *Then again, I'm used to reading in dim light for a living, so...

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« Reply #170 on: December 20, 2004, 09:11:04 PM »

elmore:  All the What Ifs are mine.  Chinese Food, When You're Waiting for Love, Simply, We'll Do a Revue, A Slight Neurotic,  Broadway Coming Attractions, Born Too Late (the disco number), and Annie are mine.  Nothing (the Mr. Karp song) is Bernstein/Markell, Millions of Men is Schmidt and Jones, A Little Lift and Foolin' Ourselves are Billy Barnes, Better is Ed Kleban, At the Same Time and Show Me are Mary Rodgers with Sondheim/Charnin and John Forrester, Times Like This is Ahrens and Flaherty.  I Don't Need You is Rupert Holmes.  I think that's it.
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« Reply #171 on: December 20, 2004, 09:14:52 PM »

The restaurant, Crustacaen, is simply one of the best restaurants ever.  I've now eaten their twice and both meals have been exquisite.  I had the cracked crab (swimming in garlic) and the garlic noodles - amazingly amazing.  I'm so full I will probably explode.  The dishes I had are made in their "secret kitchen" where only the chef may enter.  Faboo.

Here is a photograph of the beautiful Rachel.
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« Reply #172 on: December 20, 2004, 09:28:50 PM »

The beautiful Rachel looked at the photograph above and said, "That's scary!" Here is a better photo of the ravishing Rachel, the beauteous Bruce and the pulchritudinous Panni.
In front of us is the yumilicious food of Crustacean. I may burst, but boy was it good!
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« Reply #173 on: December 20, 2004, 09:33:30 PM »

On entering Crustacean you walk over a glassed over stream filled with koi fsh which winds its way throught the restaurant.
You walk over this...
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« Reply #174 on: December 20, 2004, 09:34:44 PM »

We're off to see the Wizard...
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« Reply #175 on: December 20, 2004, 09:39:12 PM »

I ate huge royal tiger prawns with garlic noodles. Deelish!
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« Reply #176 on: December 20, 2004, 09:58:30 PM »

Whatever DD Rachel had to drink at the table looks very yummy...
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« Reply #177 on: December 20, 2004, 10:03:30 PM »

I've been on the e & t side the past few days and it will more than likely continue for the rest of the week.  Busy and stressing out over shopping for gifts, plotting out Christmas Day dinner and doing last minute cleaning and decorating at the House of Mom, where I'm pretty much staying for this week.  I love Christmas a lot, but, man, the work involved!
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« Reply #178 on: December 20, 2004, 10:08:55 PM »

I REEK of garlic, I tell you.  
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« Reply #179 on: December 20, 2004, 10:11:57 PM »

Sad, but true... It looks like I'm about to turn into a Wussburger in a few minutes... -And I have a sneaking suspicion I'll be making breakfast again at 8:30AM tomorrow morning.  -Yes, I know that 8:30 isn't really that early, but for Mr. Nightowl here...

And, of course, since we had a show tonight, I'm already thinking tomorrow is Wednesday... NOT!  Ah, well...

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