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« Reply #30 on: March 03, 2021, 05:33:51 AM »

Wow! I just received my IRS return.  Usually it takes three weeks.
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« Reply #31 on: March 03, 2021, 05:35:27 AM »

YAY!!!
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« Reply #32 on: March 03, 2021, 05:36:04 AM »

That's something to dance about!
Page 2 Dance!
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« Reply #33 on: March 03, 2021, 06:08:36 AM »

The "secret stairs: of Los Angeles:
https://pasadenamag.com/people-places/explore-the-secret-stairs-of-los-angeles/?fbclid=IwAR0FcGGQXDka98yg7ki9clvpk7KS3Lv27XLbw3KEUNuO-ekJNx9VCQY5P9c

I LOVE the secret stairs! If I were in L.A. right now, I'd be out there walking some of them.

I discovered my first one in Whitley Heights while exploring the hilly part of my neighborhood on foot (I lived at the very base of that hill), and the High Tower / Hollywood Bowl one(s) on another more extended walk. I think I also came across one or two in the Beachwood and/or Bronson (?) areas. I have the book here and will have to review those, and get his latest revision sometime.

Back then, of course, they weren't a "thing", and I never thought to do any followup to find out how many there actually were. I was thrilled to stumble across a mention of his book several years ago, and I ordered it that day.
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« Reply #34 on: March 03, 2021, 06:49:57 AM »

The mornings have been much brighter than before. When is the time change?

The Ides of March, sir!

The day before, to be precise.

Thank you.
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« Reply #35 on: March 03, 2021, 06:51:00 AM »

Wow! I just received my IRS return.  Usually it takes three weeks.

They paid billions in fines for delayed returns. I think they’re quicker as a result.
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« Reply #36 on: March 03, 2021, 06:58:06 AM »

Good news from DR JANE - continued sleep vibes.

Good news from DR LAURA - enjoy the drive.
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« Reply #37 on: March 03, 2021, 06:58:27 AM »

Congrats to DR ELMORE on his bounty.

Congrats to DR JEANNE on her new battery.
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« Reply #38 on: March 03, 2021, 06:59:45 AM »

I've had vocal scores for Wozzeck and Lulu for years, but every time I put on a recording and started following the score, I had major anxiety attacks - how do you know if someone plays a wrong note? how does a singer find a pitch - that after about fifteen minutes I turned the opera off.  In the late 1990s my late friend Dale Kugel, former librarian of Tams-Witmark, invited me to a dress rehearsal of Wozzeck at the Met.

It was one of the most enlightening afternoons of my life.  The production and performers was wonderful, and the music was glorious. Removing myself from the analysis of the notes, I could simply enjoy the music for what it was, and i had never realized what  beautiful score it is.

I envy you that afternoon rehearsal!

And I'm amazed to hear what a challenge the score and the pitches, etc., were -- to you, of all people, sir!  :)

I was fortunate to have had a wonderful start on these while in school, and they got into my ear fairly early. We did the Lulu Suite and I loved playing the piano part. I just took out my Universal Ed. study-size score, and was stunned to see my neat little handwritten notes indicating that I played from that -- except wherever I wrote "switch to part", I guess for page turns! Good Lord, nowadays I wouldn't even be able to read that small print up there on the piano's music rack.

Another time, a friend asked if I'd be interested in helping him learn the pitches and intervals of Wozzeck by the two of us singing two parts together at a time, very slowly, sort of solfeggio style, but I truly don't remember what came out of our mouths except the notes themselves. I know we weren't singing the German; in fact, we were working on orchestral lines as much as anything, just picking two parts at a time and getting them in tune. Isn't that weird? But we went through a few scenes that way over several sessions, and it really worked. I also got to where I could play a few of the scenes on piano fairly well. Ah, those were the days...
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« Reply #39 on: March 03, 2021, 07:00:18 AM »

Of course today's subject makes me think of this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYE0CE2wq68
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« Reply #40 on: March 03, 2021, 07:05:20 AM »

They lost one.....but they kept working ....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCYY1utaEdk
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« Reply #41 on: March 03, 2021, 07:10:06 AM »

And if you dare - their number one song in Canada....The Hampster Dance.....

With the pin point precise choreography you've already come to expect from them......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AnN-LVsILI
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« Reply #42 on: March 03, 2021, 07:10:41 AM »

The End.
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« Reply #43 on: March 03, 2021, 07:20:29 AM »

Congrats to DR ELMORE on his bounty.

Congrats to DR JEANNE on her new battery.

And I just purchased myself a new leather jacket.  Keeping his claws sharp, Thatch has scratched the hell out of my old one, which is around 25 years old.
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« Reply #44 on: March 03, 2021, 07:23:00 AM »

The recordings and videos are fascinating. I had the Böhm ones, and I'd forgotten that Stratas is on the Boulez but NOT on the Met's. Did she not sing Lulu when they first did it, or was it only Migenes then? I'm shooting at the hip here, and will have to go back and research this.

I grew up on the old Columbia mono ones, which I still think are wonderful. The Wozzeck was a live performance with Mack Harrell and Eileen Farrell, conducted by Mitropoulos. The Lulu was a Vienna production conducted by Herbert Häfner. Are these on CD now? They remain staples on my record shelf and I can't recommend them highly enough for the spirit and atmosphere of the pieces.
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« Reply #45 on: March 03, 2021, 07:23:32 AM »

I've had vocal scores for Wozzeck and Lulu for years, but every time I put on a recording and started following the score, I had major anxiety attacks - how do you know if someone plays a wrong note? how does a singer find a pitch - that after about fifteen minutes I turned the opera off.  In the late 1990s my late friend Dale Kugel, former librarian of Tams-Witmark, invited me to a dress rehearsal of Wozzeck at the Met.

It was one of the most enlightening afternoons of my life.  The production and performers was wonderful, and the music was glorious. Removing myself from the analysis of the notes, I could simply enjoy the music for what it was, and i had never realized what  beautiful score it is.

I envy you that afternoon rehearsal!

And I'm amazed to hear what a challenge the score and the pitches, etc., were -- to you, of all people, sir!  :)

I was fortunate to have had a wonderful start on these while in school, and they got into my ear fairly early. We did the Lulu Suite and I loved playing the piano part. I just took out my Universal Ed. study-size score, and was stunned to see my neat little handwritten notes indicating that I played from that -- except wherever I wrote "switch to part", I guess for page turns! Good Lord, nowadays I wouldn't even be able to read that small print up there on the piano's music rack.

Another time, a friend asked if I'd be interested in helping him learn the pitches and intervals of Wozzeck by the two of us singing two parts together at a time, very slowly, sort of solfeggio style, but I truly don't remember what came out of our mouths except the notes themselves. I know we weren't singing the German; in fact, we were working on orchestral lines as much as anything, just picking two parts at a time and getting them in tune. Isn't that weird? But we went through a few scenes that way over several sessions, and it really worked. I also got to where I could play a few of the scenes on piano fairly well. Ah, those were the days...


On that first Columbia recording of Wozzeck with Eileen Farrell, they're just guessing at pitch and throwing caution, among other things, to the winds at times!
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« Reply #46 on: March 03, 2021, 07:25:14 AM »

The recordings and videos are fascinating. I had the Böhm ones, and I'd forgotten that Stratas is on the Boulez but NOT on the Met's. Did she not sing Lulu when they first did it, or was it only Migenes then? I'm shooting at the hip here, and will have to go back and research this.

I grew up on the old Columbia mono ones, which I still think are wonderful. The Wozzeck was a live performance with Mack Harrell and Eileen Farrell, conducted by Mitropoulos. The Lulu was a Vienna production conducted by Herbert Häfner. Are these on CD now? They remain staples on my record shelf and I can't recommend them highly enough for the spirit and atmosphere of the pieces.

Stratas canceled the Met broadcast performance, and Migenes was the cover.
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« Reply #47 on: March 03, 2021, 07:26:04 AM »

I've had vocal scores for Wozzeck and Lulu for years, but every time I put on a recording and started following the score, I had major anxiety attacks - how do you know if someone plays a wrong note? how does a singer find a pitch - that after about fifteen minutes I turned the opera off.  In the late 1990s my late friend Dale Kugel, former librarian of Tams-Witmark, invited me to a dress rehearsal of Wozzeck at the Met.

It was one of the most enlightening afternoons of my life.  The production and performers was wonderful, and the music was glorious. Removing myself from the analysis of the notes, I could simply enjoy the music for what it was, and i had never realized what  beautiful score it is.

I envy you that afternoon rehearsal!

And I'm amazed to hear what a challenge the score and the pitches, etc., were -- to you, of all people, sir!  :)

I was fortunate to have had a wonderful start on these while in school, and they got into my ear fairly early. We did the Lulu Suite and I loved playing the piano part. I just took out my Universal Ed. study-size score, and was stunned to see my neat little handwritten notes indicating that I played from that -- except wherever I wrote "switch to part", I guess for page turns! Good Lord, nowadays I wouldn't even be able to read that small print up there on the piano's music rack.

Another time, a friend asked if I'd be interested in helping him learn the pitches and intervals of Wozzeck by the two of us singing two parts together at a time, very slowly, sort of solfeggio style, but I truly don't remember what came out of our mouths except the notes themselves. I know we weren't singing the German; in fact, we were working on orchestral lines as much as anything, just picking two parts at a time and getting them in tune. Isn't that weird? But we went through a few scenes that way over several sessions, and it really worked. I also got to where I could play a few of the scenes on piano fairly well. Ah, those were the days...


On that first Columbia recordoing of Wozzeck with Eileen Farrell, they're just guessing at pitch and throwing caution, among other things, to the winds!

Hah! Right! That's why I emphasized "spirit and atmosphere".
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« Reply #48 on: March 03, 2021, 07:50:26 AM »

DR Jane I had made an appointment to go with my mom for the covid vaccine. But since I wasn't old enough they just cancelled it. They are supposed to be lowering the age requirement for the helper. But it most likely won't be in time.
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« Reply #49 on: March 03, 2021, 08:06:38 AM »

"Coming, dear!  I'll just be a moment."
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« Reply #50 on: March 03, 2021, 09:36:31 AM »

Wednesday afternoon greetings!  My morning was consumed by an upset stomach, but I seem to be recovering...
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« Reply #51 on: March 03, 2021, 09:37:57 AM »

I'd like to buy a G.
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« Reply #52 on: March 03, 2021, 09:39:01 AM »

News broke in our extended family that our niece, Rev. Amy, has been appointed District Superintendent for the Northwest Plains District of the West Ohio Conference of the United Methodist Church.  While we're very proud of her, we will miss having her family nearby.  She's been pastor at Springboro UMC for the past 5 years, not far from our home.
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« Reply #53 on: March 03, 2021, 09:42:12 AM »

Good Morning.  Business as usual today.  Except for a Parish Staff meeting at 2:00pm.  Very exciting... NOT.   
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« Reply #54 on: March 03, 2021, 09:44:56 AM »

DR George are you enjoying World War Z?
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« Reply #55 on: March 03, 2021, 09:47:39 AM »

Minnesota Department of Transportation had a contest to name new state snow plows. Readers submitted names, and the top names got voted on. After over 120,000 votes were tallied, here are the winners:

What a fun idea.  Which one did you vote for?
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« Reply #56 on: March 03, 2021, 09:48:09 AM »

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« Reply #57 on: March 03, 2021, 09:49:05 AM »

Quick. Get it over there!
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« Reply #58 on: March 03, 2021, 09:49:10 AM »

The mornings have been much brighter than before. When is the time change?

Saturday night on the 13th, unless you are one of those odd people who wait until they wake up on the 14th.
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