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« Reply #90 on: June 29, 2019, 08:25:23 PM »

Jane, I heard from a friend who just returned from the Alaska cruise on Celebrity Cruises. He said they were REALLY pushing to get people to spend as much money as possible, both the cruise line and the onshore merchants. I've cruised Celebrity and thought it was one of the better lines. Have you have problems like that?

It is why we prefer an all inclusive ship.  I don't mind the sales in the shops, this item then that item & at certain times. It is on the entertaining side.  What I mind is the constant push to buy the drink package.  We don't drink enough soda & the alcohol I like is more expensive & not included in the package. We took one Celebrity cruise & it was most annoying.   I suspect all the larger ships are like this now.  When we took our first cruise on Princess, when Bryan graduated high school, soda was always free.

We are looking at a small excursion trip to the Galapagos on Celebrity.  I had forgotten about the constant push to purchase the drink package.  I suspect though a small ship will be different than a big ship. 

It's been a while since I last cruised and things do change, but I never felt under pressure to buy. It was there, yes, and I just accepted it, but it wasn't pushed down my throat. Things may be different now, or it may have just been the staff on my friend's cruise. I can see the attraction of an all-inclusive ship. That includes all drinks, anything else?
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« Reply #91 on: June 29, 2019, 08:27:16 PM »

Would love to see the VixCouple photo.

I hope Vixmom is still alive and doing well. And the bills are too, too horrible.
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« Reply #92 on: June 29, 2019, 08:46:22 PM »

Moulin Rouge is deafening, heartless camp.  I don't think I've disliked a show this much since Xanadu.  That show was dreadful, yet it ran.  I expect Moulin Rouge might do as well.  People in the balcony were screaming their heads off and cheering at each bit of inanity.  I found the book camp and cliche'd with no sense of period or honesty.  The direction had no feeling of another time and place: Aaron Tveit's American character was no different than than the tall black actor playing Toulouse-Lautrec or the rest of the Parisians. They all seemed to be in the same American sitcom playing dress up.

There was a lot of overly busy pop choreography, and a clear fortune was spent on scenery, special effects, and rather ugly costumes.  Much of the opening, with Danny Burstein doing Cabaret's M.C., reminded me of "Big Spender" and the Roundabout's tawdry version of Cabaret. In the second act, when the Duke dresses up the whore for a day on the Champs Elysees, I was reminded of the "Ascot Gavotte," all musicals I would have preferred to be seeing.

Funniest moment? The end where the whore dying of consumption is bellowing a duet at the top of her lungs before she expires.  Anna Russell was funnier 60 years ago when she did the same nonsense in her opera parody, "Anemia's Death Scene."  I can't tell if Moulin Rouge hopes you will take the moment seriously or doesn't really give a damn.
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« Reply #93 on: June 29, 2019, 08:48:58 PM »

I have several friends in the show who work very hard with little given to them.  The show is like going to a bakery, only to get the cake home and find it's all icing over a cardboard frame.
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« Reply #94 on: June 29, 2019, 08:51:18 PM »

Sounds like my kind of show, Elmore. The kind where I save money by not going anywhere near it.
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« Reply #95 on: June 29, 2019, 08:53:18 PM »

Dancing was fairly good. I didn't try any of the smooth dances, polka or the hustle, just too much effort. But the two-step was fun, as were the cha-cha and rumba.
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« Reply #96 on: June 29, 2019, 08:54:12 PM »

I'm back to last of Rio Bravo. Great fun. I don't think Dean Martin was ever better.
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« Reply #97 on: June 29, 2019, 08:59:37 PM »

Sounds like my kind of show, Elmore. The kind where I save money by not going anywhere near it.

Yes, that’s the kind of show I can afford right about now. Thank you, DR Elmore.
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« Reply #98 on: June 29, 2019, 09:06:07 PM »

Jane, I heard from a friend who just returned from the Alaska cruise on Celebrity Cruises. He said they were REALLY pushing to get people to spend as much money as possible, both the cruise line and the onshore merchants. I've cruised Celebrity and thought it was one of the better lines. Have you have problems like that?

It is why we prefer an all inclusive ship.  I don't mind the sales in the shops, this item then that item & at certain times. It is on the entertaining side.  What I mind is the constant push to buy the drink package.  We don't drink enough soda & the alcohol I like is more expensive & not included in the package. We took one Celebrity cruise & it was most annoying.   I suspect all the larger ships are like this now.  When we took our first cruise on Princess, when Bryan graduated high school, soda was always free.

We are looking at a small excursion trip to the Galapagos on Celebrity.  I had forgotten about the constant push to purchase the drink package.  I suspect though a small ship will be different than a big ship. 

It's been a while since I last cruised and things do change, but I never felt under pressure to buy. It was there, yes, and I just accepted it, but it wasn't pushed down my throat. Things may be different now, or it may have just been the staff on my friend's cruise. I can see the attraction of an all-inclusive ship. That includes all drinks, anything else?

Food including the specialty restaurants that need reservations.  I believe it is Regent that includes many of the excursions.
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« Reply #99 on: June 29, 2019, 09:09:57 PM »

Would love to see the VixCouple photo.

I hope Vixmom is still alive and doing well. And the bills are too, too horrible.

There is one lovely photo on facebook, however, it doesn't show all of the Vixter's beautiful gown.
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« Reply #100 on: June 29, 2019, 09:12:05 PM »

Dancing was fairly good. I didn't try any of the smooth dances, polka or the hustle, just too much effort. But the two-step was fun, as were the cha-cha and rumba.

Great.  How was your back?
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« Reply #101 on: June 29, 2019, 09:15:42 PM »

I have no doubt I would hate every second of Moulin Rouge - I hate the movie, which I find tiresome in the extreme.  As to the screaming from the balcony, I'm beginning to believe that some of that is pre-recorded - I've heard that in many shows recently, ALWAYS coming from the balcony and always sounding canned.  Nothing would surprise me anymore.
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« Reply #102 on: June 29, 2019, 09:16:33 PM »

Had a nice working dinner - grilled cheese and bacon sandwich and a side Caesar, with a few onion rings, too.  Given the low-cal lunch, I think that was all fine.
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« Reply #103 on: June 29, 2019, 09:28:35 PM »

I have no doubt I would hate every second of Moulin Rouge - I hate the movie, which I find tiresome in the extreme.  As to the screaming from the balcony, I'm beginning to believe that some of that is pre-recorded - I've heard that in many shows recently, ALWAYS coming from the balcony and always sounding canned.  Nothing would surprise me anymore.

It wasn't canned, but I suspect it might be cued like the old TV show APPLAUSE sign.  The man sitting next to me in the mezzanine was right in there with the other screamers.

 The producers are expecting a big hit.  The back rows of the balcony were selling at something like $195/ticket.  Who the hell can afford to see a show at that price?  I was taken, but I was appalled at the price of my mezzanine seat.
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« Reply #104 on: June 29, 2019, 09:32:52 PM »

I hate these machines - they're not shows, they're machines.  And I hate screamers at shows - I want to kill them all or at least make them have a famous Star burger.
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« Reply #105 on: June 29, 2019, 09:33:03 PM »

What is this page four malarky?
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« Reply #106 on: June 29, 2019, 09:33:21 PM »

Listening to music.
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« Reply #107 on: June 29, 2019, 09:41:54 PM »



It wasn't canned, but I suspect it might be cued like the old TV show APPLAUSE sign.  The man sitting next to me in the mezzanine was right in there with the other screamers.

 The producers are expecting a big hit.  The back rows of the balcony were selling at something like $195/ticket.  Who the hell can afford to see a show at that price?  I was taken, but I was appalled at the price of my mezzanine seat.

A popular art form that every New Yorker AND every tourist went to as just part of life, that so many bridge and tunneling making ordinary wages came to see routinely somehow has turned into an elitist world for the super-rich.
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« Reply #108 on: June 29, 2019, 09:42:43 PM »

 "The Producers" which started this was supposed to be unique, premium for only 50 extra-special seats.  It became every show so quickly, and suddenly a Broadway show just had to feel like an event worth $600. 
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« Reply #109 on: June 29, 2019, 09:43:19 PM »

By Jersey Boys opening, it felt like two thirds of the orchestra was "Premium" and I just stopped trying to see everything, where I had seen all the musicals on and off-Broadway at least up to that. 
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« Reply #110 on: June 29, 2019, 09:43:46 PM »

And you know, I thought it would be tough to start being selective, but missing stuff that was just too expensive was not as hard to get adjusted to as I'd expected. 
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« Reply #111 on: June 29, 2019, 09:44:50 PM »

That line from Sweeney "I think I miss you less and less as every day goes by" started to apply, especially when  seeing a show always started to begin with ludicrous lining up like schoolchildren, all ages, even if it was sweltering or raining.
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« Reply #112 on: June 29, 2019, 09:47:30 PM »

What is this page four malarky?

Is my vixmom-inspired "don't do one post where six posts will do" technique getting more smooth?
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« Reply #113 on: June 29, 2019, 09:55:08 PM »

That said, knowing all the pop songs before seeing the show in Boston, and having years in offices where pop music played that we'd suddenly fasten on a song we'd hear on the radio which we felt right then, I was so moved by what it was evoking for me - how pop music could speak for us.  I can see it:  It may sound like hokum if you don't know the songs. 

Recalling "All about the bass" always hitting us and making us laugh in 2016 if we happened to be talking abut Trump.
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« Reply #114 on: June 29, 2019, 09:55:37 PM »

I was so taken with how Karen Olivo's rendition of "Firework" felt like Satine was trying to talk herself into feeling it right then, but I'd agree someone who doesn't know the insanely popular song might think she was singing he feelings that moment, which I can get would seem like ludicrous dramaturgy.
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« Reply #115 on: June 29, 2019, 09:58:40 PM »

Dancing was fairly good. I didn't try any of the smooth dances, polka or the hustle, just too much effort. But the two-step was fun, as were the cha-cha and rumba.

Great.  How was your back?

Somebody slipped me an anti-inflammatory. It helped.
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« Reply #116 on: June 29, 2019, 09:59:36 PM »

When I did my "Firework" parody, I admit to being surprised that there were so many people who had only a vague idea of who Katy Perry is.  I thought everyone who knew Adele or Lady Gaga knew Katy Perry.

Absolutely not.  Even my own spouse knew her more as Russell Brand's ex-wife and only seen her perform at Obama events on TV.  "Firework" - he hadn't even heard the song before.
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« Reply #117 on: June 29, 2019, 10:00:34 PM »

I have no doubt I would hate every second of Moulin Rouge - I hate the movie, which I find tiresome in the extreme.  As to the screaming from the balcony, I'm beginning to believe that some of that is pre-recorded - I've heard that in many shows recently, ALWAYS coming from the balcony and always sounding canned.  Nothing would surprise me anymore.


I agree. I had a chance to buy it last night for $4.49 and decided that was about $5 too much.
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« Reply #118 on: June 29, 2019, 10:02:44 PM »

Watching a documentary on Howard Hawks that came with Rio Bravo. Makes me want to watch Red River next.
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« Reply #119 on: June 29, 2019, 10:02:53 PM »

Let's move on ...
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