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« Reply #150 on: January 23, 2004, 01:55:23 PM »

DR RobinAnderson - have you read the TEENAGERS FROM OUTER SPACE issue of Scarlet Street?

You betcha.  
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« Reply #151 on: January 23, 2004, 01:56:08 PM »

oooooh...I started page six!
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« Reply #152 on: January 23, 2004, 01:57:16 PM »

One of the really hard things about all the trials of this biz is that Civilians don't get it - that includes most family members and lovers, too - the other day, my own sister Tami said I was probably pinching myself over my "good luck" in getting these two upcoming gigs

I was excluded from that statement-yes?
Have you been telling Tami the same stories you have been telling me?  If so, I can't comprehend how she doesn't get it. ::)
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« Reply #153 on: January 23, 2004, 02:07:46 PM »

Wow.  All I can say is... wow.

Thanks for the link, der Brucer!

Yea! LOL
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« Reply #154 on: January 23, 2004, 02:18:12 PM »

Back from luncheon.  Ready for ACTION.
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« Reply #155 on: January 23, 2004, 02:25:10 PM »

Tomovoz we just received a beautiful post card from Melbourne.  It was sent by my mother’s cousin who is visiting her sister in Australia.  Twice I have stayed at my cousin’s house on the Isle of Man but have never met her sister.  One of these days I hope to make it to your part of the world.
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« Reply #156 on: January 23, 2004, 02:28:26 PM »

One of the really hard things about all the trials of this biz is that Civilians don't get it - that includes most family members and lovers, too - the other day, my own sister Tami said I was probably pinching myself over my "good luck" in getting these two upcoming gigs... for one of which I've been haranguing the producer to put on, for 16 months; and the other I've been campaigning for during the last 5 months... it looks to the Regular Folk like we just fall into these "Good Luck" jobs. Selling a product or service -- ours, included -- is Marketing, just like in the Real World. But cuz it looks so fun and easy, "They" can't know what we go through to be allowed up there in the light when the curtain opens...

I don't think those "civilians" are so terribly off-base in congratulating you on your good luck.

It's certainly true that landing a gig takes a lot of hard work, work that "regular folk" might not be aware of.

But go watch a celebrity interview (as regular folk often do) and you're very likely to see some star attribute his success to luck, in some measure.

I believe that, in auditioning (as in poker), there is always a certain element of luck involve.  You can give the greatest audition ever given and, if you don't match the director's vision of what the actor playing the part should be, you won't be cast.

That's why there's nothing wrong in saying that Jason had bad luck -- being too small for the role he tried out for.  If he got the role, we'd congratulate him on his good luck (of being the right size).

Of course, you have hard work to do, perfecting your audition, and marketing yourself for a gig,  but there's an element of luck in every aspect of show business, and I don't blame "civilians" for acknowledging it.
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« Reply #157 on: January 23, 2004, 02:31:01 PM »

Thank you  for the compliment. No, she "retired" when we moved to Colorado. She had done a series (Shari Lewis) and an Equity play, as well as several non-Equity productions, by the time she was 11. Said she wanted to be a regular kid - which was just fine with me.


By any chance was that Lamb Chop's Play-Along"  that my friend Bernard Rothman produced, directred and co-wrote?
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« Reply #158 on: January 23, 2004, 02:31:11 PM »

Thanks td and WEL for the info regarding Wicked.  It was quite informative!  I never knew!  Anyway, I checked my library (where I work) and it turns out that I had requested the novel by Gregory Maguire about a month ago, and I still haven't gotten it.  I'm next on the list and one of the copies is overdue, so I should get it fairly soon.

So thanks (also) Jennifer for the offer, but WEL sent me the "surprise ending" info and td sent a very complete synopsis.  

I must listen to this CD again this weekend.  It's at home, otherwise I'd get it out right now!
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« Reply #159 on: January 23, 2004, 02:32:46 PM »

Bernie Rothman?  I believe I lunched with him last week.  Didn't I?
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« Reply #160 on: January 23, 2004, 02:33:07 PM »

Apparently all degrees of separation end at HHW.
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« Reply #161 on: January 23, 2004, 02:33:57 PM »

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« Reply #162 on: January 23, 2004, 02:34:00 PM »

I am one chapter away from finishing BLACK NOTICE and then I go right into WICKED. Can't wait!
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« Reply #163 on: January 23, 2004, 02:35:11 PM »

Yes Noel, luck is often part of most good things.  But it can be demeaning when those close to you only acknowledge the "luck" and not the hard work.  That goes for any aspect of life where you have worked hard to achieve a goal and are only told you have been lucky.
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« Reply #164 on: January 23, 2004, 02:36:50 PM »

Bernie Rothman?  I believe I lunched with him last week.  Didn't I?

Wasn't it Mark Rothman?  (No relation BTW)
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« Reply #165 on: January 23, 2004, 02:48:12 PM »

By any chance was that Lamb Chop's Play-Along"  that my friend Bernard Rothman produced, directred and co-wrote?

Yes it was. Bernie is now a good friend - back then was just the producer. I hardly ever went on set - my then husband did that. Since that time we have reconnected through work and, as I said, become friends. He's a dear man. bk and I had lunch with him just last week. Small world.
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« Reply #166 on: January 23, 2004, 02:50:33 PM »

Tomovoz we just received a beautiful post card from Melbourne.  It was sent by my mother’s cousin who is visiting her sister in Australia.  Twice I have stayed at my cousin’s house on the Isle of Man but have never met her sister.  One of these days I hope to make it to your part of the world.
I wonder if your mother's cousin is now addicted to Oz Chocolate like DR Jose.  Is this a cousin by marriage or is the Melbourne connection a cousin of your mother's as well.
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« Reply #167 on: January 23, 2004, 02:52:03 PM »

Yes it was. Bernie is now a good friend - back then was just the producer. I hardly ever went on set - my then husband did that. Since that time we have reconnected through work and, as I said, become friends. He's a dear man. bk and I had lunch with him just last week. Small world.

Wow!  The three of you had lunch together last week, and you didn't even know it.
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« Reply #168 on: January 23, 2004, 02:55:30 PM »

Be it in show business or just plain business or life, I am of the belief that people in large measure create their own luck.  If someone is in the right place at the right time, that means that person dragged himself or herself from bed to be in that place.  (Unless, of course, the right place in my hypothetical example is in bed, but that's not the kind of lucky I'm talking about.)  

If people network/audition/make connections/gently or aggressively nudge potential casting agents or prospective employers or people who know a casting agent or employer, they are likely to be much, much "luckier" than those who wait at home for fortune to arrive at their doorstep.  Creating that "luck" is HARD WORK!  But to someone who did not witness said hard work, but just the outcome of it, he or she could be easily led to believe that the person was "lucky."

This is a mantra that I used with my clients in all the years I did career counseling, one that I use on myself, and clearly one that is at play with all you denizens of the theatuh.
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« Reply #169 on: January 23, 2004, 02:57:16 PM »

Small world.

Ooh, ooh!  A Styne/Sondheim reference.
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« Reply #170 on: January 23, 2004, 02:59:32 PM »

To add my bit to the auditioning process... When I was acting, most of my work was in the theater for not great money. So getting commercials seemed like a life-saver. When I first started auditioning for them, I wasn't terribly successful and finally thought, "Screw it, it's never gonna happen." So I totally gave up on the idea of commercials. Right after I made this mental leap, my agent sent me for a commercial audition. As I didn't care, I was totallly loose. I walked in and faced the long table of suits and read my three lines. They said thank you and dismissed me. At which point I said "What? That's it? Don't you want me to sparkle?" They looked up like I'd just awakened them from some deep audition slumber and actually smiled. I smiled back and left, thinking, that's that. Well, you guessed it - I got the job. And about five in a row after that one.

Having been on the other side of the table for many years now, I know that when the auditioners smell desperation (and by that I mean just WANTING it so much) it works against the person auditioning.
So there's the dilemma -- how do you not care about something that means more to you than almost anything in the world? I have no answer to that one.
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« Reply #171 on: January 23, 2004, 03:03:57 PM »

I wonder if your mother's cousin is now addicted to Oz Chocolate like DR Jose.  Is this a cousin by marriage or is the Melbourne connection a cousin of your mother's as well.


I will have to ask about the chocolate.  The Melbourne cousin was born on the Isle of Man.  I’m not sure how she ended up in Australia.  My mother knew both of her cousins as they were the children of her favorite aunt.  My mother missed England very much and would take long trips by herself to visit her family.  I seem to recall she stayed a month on the island, but that is a story for another day.
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« Reply #172 on: January 23, 2004, 03:14:13 PM »

Been meaning all day to comment on Ann  Miller's tap number "It" in DEEP IN MY HEART. It's a lot of fun, but then all of the guest star numbers in this and all the other MGM fictitious composer biofilms were wonderful. The plots may be from hunger, but they sure had the performing talent or knew where to go to get it. My favorite other number in DEEP IN MY HEART is the rapturous dance that Cyd Charisse and James Mitchell do to "One Alone."
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« Reply #173 on: January 23, 2004, 03:20:53 PM »

DR Jane: I think we had some convicts arrive from the Isle Of Man. I know some of their cats try not to mention the tail.
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« Reply #174 on: January 23, 2004, 03:28:59 PM »

Did any other DR's have a stuffed monkey made out of brown and white work socks?

A sock monkey, yes! Well, no...my neighbor in Medford, Scott Adams, had one, but I never had one myself.
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« Reply #175 on: January 23, 2004, 03:30:40 PM »

Hmmm...the mailman just brought some goodies, the best of which was a nice collection of John Saxon magazine clippings from that mid-west DR JRand53! Some very nice shots of our favorite Brookly born hottie! But boy, those fan magazines were sure trying to get Mr. Saxon married off in a hurry!
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« Reply #176 on: January 23, 2004, 03:33:21 PM »

Ain't it the truth!

I am watching "Burn Witch Burn" with Janet Blair!
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« Reply #177 on: January 23, 2004, 03:39:19 PM »

Jane, I TIVOd The Caretakers this morning - I meant to remind you of it.  The entire opening sequence was shot in front of and then inside the Bruin.
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« Reply #178 on: January 23, 2004, 03:43:24 PM »

With Polly Bergen in a bra!
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« Reply #179 on: January 23, 2004, 03:48:15 PM »

Just reading of a review of the Kismet revival in LA..........

Ouch!!

Except for our own Jason Graae

From the LA Daily News

But with the notable exceptions of Jason Graae and Jennifer Leigh Warren, nobody seems to be having much fun in Seidelman's production. This cast of beggars, thieves, slaves and princes certainly seem to be working their guts out. And given the generous display of flesh -- male and female -- afforded by Helen Butler and Jeff Transki's costumes, I suspect many of them are also freezing.

Graae plays a corrupt police chief, the Wazier, in 11th-century Baghdad and has the pitch-perfect eyebrow raise to land a zinger like "Baghdad is the symbol of happiness on earth." His rendition of the comic torture song "Was I Wazier?" is delivered with breezy brio. Honestly, this production could use about 10 Jason Graaes -- five of each gender.

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