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Re:A PARTRIDGE IN A PEAR TREE
« Reply #30 on: December 16, 2003, 08:32:58 AM »

Though I'm sure I have my favourite obscure, elite, and pompous words (none of which I can think of at the moment), I'm more a words-in-combination guy.  I particularly like alliterative phrases and often seem at my best when expressing contemptuous sarcasm or disdain.

What was that phrase...a movie line I think..."he never pushed a noun against verb unless to blow something up"...When I'm in a high dudgeon or consumed with visceral outrage, that's me...

Here's a little example from a memo I shot off a few years to the various heads of a studio and the producers after I watched a preview of a movie of mine they ruined...

"A mulit-faceted, multi-dimensional character-rich script had been reduced to one-dimension.  And though the one dimension that remained was mine, it was in such tatters, it resembled the devoured, emaciated carcass of a once-full-bodied, glossy-hided, beautiful beast.  What had been mature and dense was now simplistic and puerile."

"What happened?  Howcum?  WHY?  Beats me.  If all I had to do was fight battles of creative differences, I might know.  Unfortunately, I have to waste most of my time waging war against a lack of rudimentary common sense...Do I need a soul-searing megaphone to shout down into the dusty, decaying stale corridors of torpid, tepid mentalities and hope that it finally resounds with some simple echo of clarity and intelligence?...I tried calm reasoning, cajoling, humour, rage, pleading, and weeping.  Nothing stopped the simple-minded march to destruction.

"...And maybe it will make money.  God knows it wouldn't be the first time a bad movie has turned a profit (and regardless of how much money it might make, make no mistake, it will always be a bad movie).  Maybe [the star's] cachet is enough to turn this sad, sloppy-silly, slap-dash, mish-mash piece of hash into a money-maker.  I personally doubt it.  This labour of indifferent, insipid, uninspired film-making seems destined for critical contempt and audience ennui.

"But let's hope it makes money, for NO ONE CAN TAKE ANY SENSE OF ARTISTIC PRIDE OR ACCOMPLISHMENT IN THIS PEDESTRIAN PUDDLE OF PATHETIC, UNPROFESSIONAL, PANDERING POOP!"

It did not make money needless to say, though I did get a nice residual cheque for it the other day.  Which since I ain't getting any artistic satisfaction from it, I'm glad to scrape the occasional financial one from it.
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Re:A PARTRIDGE IN A PEAR TREE
« Reply #31 on: December 16, 2003, 08:36:11 AM »

Is anyone else dying to know what the name of  this movie was?
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« Reply #32 on: December 16, 2003, 08:41:49 AM »

Well, I suppose we could offer a non-prize for whoever can guess it.  I'll give you a hint, however.  If it had been done the way it had been written and the way I intended.  The tone would have been more Lord of The Rings rather than the rolling juggernaut of cartoon illogic it became, preceding LOTR in being a movie to take dark fantasy seriously and maturely.
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« Reply #33 on: December 16, 2003, 08:41:54 AM »

I have a feeling it isn't "Dr Zhivago."
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« Reply #34 on: December 16, 2003, 08:42:31 AM »

Oh, I think I have a t-shirt for "Dragonheart."
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« Reply #35 on: December 16, 2003, 09:00:03 AM »

One quick note before the trip begins and I don't post for 15 days (maybe I'll be able to sneak in a look at the board while I'm gone but probably not much more).

We leave at 8pm tonight for Merry Olde England. Now it's just waiting for the car to the airport. Anthony hasn't been out of the country so it's very exciting for him. I haven't been to Europe since 1992 so I'm looking forward to the whole thing. Friends in Nottingham, a cousin in Sheffield, a possible meeting with the host of the radio show on BBC Radio Wales (Beverly Humphreys). It's all too, too.

I'll be back, but not for a while. See y'all later.
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« Reply #36 on: December 16, 2003, 09:06:56 AM »

Good travels, DR Ben. Say hello to your namesake clock tower for me!  :D
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« Reply #37 on: December 16, 2003, 09:08:08 AM »

Condolences to Dan!
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« Reply #38 on: December 16, 2003, 09:18:19 AM »

JRand53, DRAGONHEART was merely a disappointment; this one was a disaster.
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« Reply #39 on: December 16, 2003, 09:20:41 AM »

AHHHHHHHHHHHHH...okay.
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« Reply #40 on: December 16, 2003, 09:23:01 AM »

Oh....Kull the Conqueror....  
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« Reply #41 on: December 16, 2003, 09:26:32 AM »

One of these days I'm going to get myself to England. It's a gift I haven't given myself yet, but one day!
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Re:A PARTRIDGE IN A PEAR TREE
« Reply #42 on: December 16, 2003, 09:29:32 AM »

Have a good and safe trip Ben and Anthony!

Go away, but come back soon!  ;D
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« Reply #43 on: December 16, 2003, 09:38:35 AM »

OH, Ben, I am envious! Have a wonderful, wonderful trip! And bring back lots of pics for us to look at!
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« Reply #44 on: December 16, 2003, 09:40:46 AM »

So, little Mister, how was the date last night?  

What?  You thought we wouldn't ask?
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« Reply #45 on: December 16, 2003, 09:47:20 AM »

Just finished my Speech exam, which thankfully was open book and fairly simple (oh, a Maury Yeston reference!)

Dan--I'm so sorry to hear about the loss of your mother.  I can only imagine how painful that was for you.  My deepest sympathies.

Charles--you astound me with your vocabulary.  I mean, I've always had a fairly extensive vocab. but you put me to shame.

My favorite words are plangent, twee and idiosyncrasy.
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« Reply #46 on: December 16, 2003, 09:48:19 AM »

Good travels, DR Ben. Say hello to your namesake clock tower for me!  :D
An understandable misperception.  The namesake is not the tower, but the bell itself.

So go with bells on, Ben!  We'll all look forward the the stories you ring bring back!
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« Reply #47 on: December 16, 2003, 09:48:37 AM »

Ha, ha! It was very nice. His name is George (not to be confused with DR George) and we dined on grilled salmon and topped it off with some delicious chocolate cake at Konditari.

Went back to my place and watched some Jack Benny and some Burns and Allen...my kind of guy!!! LOL!

It was a good date, and there will be more...of course he lives on the beach which is a two hour drive from Salem, so future dates may be far between, but such is life.
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« Reply #48 on: December 16, 2003, 10:18:04 AM »

Yes, it HAD to have been "Kull the Conqueror."  I'd never have suggested "Dragonheart" because I thought it had an uncommon amount of heart to it.

And I love Randy Edelman's score, as well.

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« Reply #49 on: December 16, 2003, 10:29:41 AM »

They were hoping for a hit based on the stardom of...KEVIN SORBO?   :P

- S. Woody (who wonders if KS uses a blade or electric razor, or perhaps Neet, to keep his chest so hair-free!)
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« Reply #50 on: December 16, 2003, 10:33:19 AM »

Buster, attentive pup that he is, is all aquiver (a very nice word, come to think of it).  He has been looking through the front window and spotted...a squirrel!

Everybody SING!

It's a small squirrel, after all
It's a small squirrel, after all
It's a small squirrel, after all
It's a small, small squirrel!
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« Reply #51 on: December 16, 2003, 10:41:22 AM »

Dear Reader Dan-in-Toronto:  My condolences to you on the recent loss of your mother.

Dear Reader Ben and DFO (Dear Friend of) Dear Reader Ben Ant:  Bon Voyage!  Have a wonderful trip!
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« Reply #52 on: December 16, 2003, 10:48:57 AM »

Rizzo:  You hauled your cookies all the way out to the beach for some GUY?

Remember DR MATTH - there are NO new Federation steps!
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« Reply #53 on: December 16, 2003, 10:49:02 AM »

Regarding the topic of the day:  do words borrowed from other languages count?

I've already gone on record saying that fahrblondjet, which comes from Yiddish, is one of my favorite words.

Another favorite of mine (in both meaning and sound) comes from the German:  schadenfreude.
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« Reply #54 on: December 16, 2003, 11:01:45 AM »

I really hope that some Ebay/Nehaflix/Amazon.com/IndiaWeekly purchases arrive in the mail today!!!!!!!!!!

...but please Mr. Postman, don't bring my Visa bill! :(
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« Reply #55 on: December 16, 2003, 11:04:20 AM »

They were hoping for a hit based on the stardom of...KEVIN SORBO?   :P

- S. Woody (who wonders if KS uses a blade or electric razor, or perhaps Neet, to keep his chest so hair-free!)

Maybe Charles was referring to the wonderfully talented and multiple Tony winner Harvey Fierstein, who was also in the movie!

As far as words are concerned, I like "Obsequious"

Jed, I also love Sondheim's "imperturbable perspicacity"

However, my most favorite new word is Dear Reader Maya's term, "Idiocracy"
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« Reply #56 on: December 16, 2003, 11:08:57 AM »

Ha, ha! It was very nice. His name is George (not to be confused with DR George) and we dined on grilled salmon and topped it off with some delicious chocolate cake at Konditari.

Went back to my place and watched some Jack Benny and some Burns and Allen...my kind of guy!!! LOL!

It was a good date, and there will be more...of course he lives on the beach which is a two hour drive from Salem, so future dates may be far between, but such is life.

This sounded sort of rueful...like it needed music, and this just popped into my head (to the tune of Cole Porter's "It's All Right With Me"):

It was a good time, in a good place
Oh! His face was charming, it's a good face
It's a beach face, but such a charming face
That it's all right with me

It's a good song, in a good style
Yes, his smile was lovely, it's the right smile
It's a beach smile, but such a lovely smile
That it's all right with me

It's the right game, with the right chips
Yes, his lips are tempting, they're the right lips
But they're beach lips, they're not convenient lips
But if some night he’s free
Then it's all right, yes, it's all right with me
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« Reply #57 on: December 16, 2003, 11:13:15 AM »

LOL Ron - dear Cole from Peru Indiana is smiling....it's all right with him.

And don't forget DR Emily's Canuckistan!
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« Reply #58 on: December 16, 2003, 11:13:47 AM »

Words I love:

sasquatch

splendiferous

Brobdingnagian

pachyderm

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« Reply #59 on: December 16, 2003, 11:17:26 AM »

And two words that are probably at the top of everyone's favorite word list:  "Hainsies" and "Kimlets"
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