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Matt H.

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Re:A PARTRIDGE IN A PEAR TREE
« Reply #90 on: December 16, 2003, 02:32:21 PM »

Is this a major lull or what?  :(
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« Reply #91 on: December 16, 2003, 02:43:12 PM »

I taught journalism for five years in the military.  And one of the phrases we'd have on a sign in our writing classes was:

"eschew obfuscation"

Now that I find very hard to believe.  Have you ever seen a military press conference.  It's all obfuscation!

A sign on my desk says eschew cliché

and I've used a couple of your words in recent lyrics: splendiferous referred to Jerry Bock's melodies, and

If a pack of pachyderms can take the Midtown Tunnel
What does it say about my fate?


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« Reply #92 on: December 16, 2003, 02:53:16 PM »

DRs Joy and Noel:

Listened to your cd today.  It is lovely.

DR Joy you have a beautiful voice!

I especially loved the bestman's song at the end. She also has a lovely voice. And I liked DR Joy's song right after that.

Really touching cd.

DR Noel, very good job.
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« Reply #93 on: December 16, 2003, 03:10:32 PM »

I've just come back home/office and have been catching up on the tail-end of the rant discussion. I must admit that, talented as he is, I'm not a huge Harlan Ellison fan, not in large doses anyway. But I have to say that I truly admired him at the 2001 WGA Awards where those in attendance were asked to wear "work clothes" rather than the usual formal wear, in recognition of the horror of 9/11. Ellison, who was presenting, showed up in pajamas and a bathrobe, saying, "This is what I work in."

My fave ranter was Terry Southern. He was totally outrageous and wildly original. Some magazine (Newsweek?) called him"a hip social anrachist and comic pornographer with a moral sense." Right on. For those interested in reading a collection of his writings, you could try NOW DIG THIS: THE UNSPEAKABLE WRITINGS OF TERRY SOUTHERN, 1950-1995.
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« Reply #94 on: December 16, 2003, 03:14:24 PM »

No LULLS
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« Reply #95 on: December 16, 2003, 03:34:45 PM »

Why are there movies like CHEAPER BY THE DOZEN being made...movies that I don't even think would amuse me much....and yet I can sit and watch DINNER AT EIGHT on TCM and still laugh and marvel at the skill of some of the performances.  Rhetorical question, I guess.

MATTH did you watch STRICTLY BALLROOM yet?
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Re:A PARTRIDGE IN A PEAR TREE
« Reply #96 on: December 16, 2003, 03:40:37 PM »

Now that I find very hard to believe.  Have you ever seen a military press conference.  It's all obfuscation!


Oh, I quite agree.  But the folks who write THOSE statements never attend our school.  We trained the folks who did the base newspapers.  

"Speechifying" is a specialty that seems to have a language all its own...and so many different folks have a hand in what you ultimately hear, is it any wonder that it's double-talk that reveals nothing but a talent for gobbledygook?
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« Reply #97 on: December 16, 2003, 04:02:11 PM »

LOL, Jrand!

Charles Pogue--oh, I've heard wonderful things about Terry Pratchett!  My sis keeps bugging me to read that one book he wrote with Neil Gaiman...damn, I can't remember the name of it now...it's right on the tip of my tongue...ah, well it will come to me.

I try to balance heavy and light reading...like I'll read a classic alongside a fantasy novel or something.  Have you ever read "Gloriana" by Michael Moorcock?  It's the historical fantasy based on the life of Elizabeth I...very raunchy and piccaresque, but also very literate.  Highly recommend it!
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« Reply #98 on: December 16, 2003, 04:03:07 PM »

That's another awesome word...piccaresque, however you spell that...
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« Reply #99 on: December 16, 2003, 04:11:17 PM »

Does Harlan talk like he writes?  Well, he can certainly go off on a tear and is very quick-witted, of course.  My wife says I do a great impersonation of the way he speaks. I'm surprised you never caught his many appearances on Tom Synder and on the old Bill Maher show, Politically Incorrect.  In fact, the essay I mentioned is centered around a performance request from that show.

Though I wasn't in attendance the year did his "work-clothes" walk-on at the WGA Awards ceremony, I did hear about it in advance...but I had been on the Board the four previous years and the novelty of the awards dinner had by then worn off for me.  The first year we were seated next to Jon Voight.  It was never that good again.

Long before I became buddies with Ellison though, I remember his hilarious appearance at a WGA rally at the Sportsman's Lodge during the prolonged 88' strike.  Not only he got up and spoke but Richard Brooks and a host of others.  Talk about rants against the man...one of those times when I felt most proud to be a writer.

Actually speaking of strikes and Harlan, he just called a little while ago to ask about my thoughts on the WGA pattern of demands for the contract negotiations coming up....and to express again his mortification at missing our party.   Ellison and I are both Creative Rights men in the guild.  We believe money follows power, so get power.  And neither of us much like people screwing around with our words.  I'm known as the Pit Bull of Writers' Creative Rights.
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« Reply #100 on: December 16, 2003, 04:18:44 PM »

Charles Pogue--oh, I've heard wonderful things about Terry Pratchett!  My sis keeps bugging me to read that one book he wrote with Neil Gaiman...damn, I can't remember the name of it now...it's right on the tip of my tongue...ah, well it will come to me.

Maya, the whole title is "Good Omens:  The Nice and Accurate Prophecies of Agnes Nutter, Witch" and Terry Pratchett is the main author (as far as library cataloging goes).  I read it when it first came out in 1990 and loved it.  I had read a few months ago that it's been optioned for a movie.  When I read the book, I really felt like it was written with that in mind...of course, it's now 13+ years later, but finally it might be happening.  I highly recommend it! :D
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« Reply #101 on: December 16, 2003, 04:19:09 PM »

DR Maya, I have read a small bit of Moorcock, but not a lot.  I actually know his friend Jim Cawthorn, an illustrator/writer with whom he has on occasion collaborated...Jim sends me a wonderful Christmas card every year with an original drawing in it...We all more or less know each other through our Edgar Rice Burroughs connections...It was, in fact, at a Burroughs convention out here that I met Ellison (who is also a friend of Moorcock's...It's all so incestuous).

The Gaiman/Pratchett book you're probably thinking about is Good Omens.  Have it, but haven't read it yet.   Pratchett is one of the few living authors I actually read (as well as Ellison and our own BK, of course).  Most of my favourite writers are dead guys.  

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« Reply #102 on: December 16, 2003, 04:23:36 PM »

Charles - you might be amused by the Private Message I sent you this evening...
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« Reply #103 on: December 16, 2003, 04:26:34 PM »

I have been following the fascinating discussion in today's posts, but I am afraid I have nothing to add to the mix.  My walking pneumonia has returned, only this time it has apparently decided to sit down.  My brain, which seems to be floating in a bowl of cranberry punch, is incapable of contributing anything to this enjoyable diatribe.  Therefore, I shall sit back and enjoy the posts until my head finally comes to rest on my keyboard.

However, let me express my sympathies to Dan-in-Toronto on the loss of your mother.

Favorite word:  loquacious, which I am anything but, today.
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« Reply #104 on: December 16, 2003, 04:36:34 PM »

More hot posts, more hot posts.  I ate way too much mediocre food at our catered lunch, and everyone seemed to enjoy the screening of episode one.  Still some tweaking to do and network notes will be coming tomorrow.
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Re:A PARTRIDGE IN A PEAR TREE
« Reply #105 on: December 16, 2003, 04:37:32 PM »

Fumfer is one of my favorite words.  As is snot.
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« Reply #106 on: December 16, 2003, 04:43:18 PM »

DRs,

First, thanks to the members of this wonderful group for expressing their condolences. The support of friends, old and new, has gotten me through this hard time. My mom's death was not unexpected. A few weeks before she passed away, she said she was ready to move on. "Why?" we asked. "So I can make my own sandwiches again!" Still, we miss her terribly. It's been sad, but also sweet, going through the letters she saved and the notebooks she kept over her rich life.

I haven't been in much of a posting mood, but it's been good to lurk. I've had some excellent laughs. Thanks. The few times I did post, it's been a pain. Since HHW introduced its new format, I've found it next to impossible to scroll or to type on the site (and on a few others). I've checked with my computer guru. He spent a long day defragmenting and then told me it's a cookie problem, a temporary file problem, and a time to send-the-computer-to-upgrading-camp problem.

The good news is that I can now maneuver like a normal person, thanks to eBay's help line. The problem, it turns out, is that one of my Internet option boxes was checked and it shouldn't have been. (Options/Accessibility/Format Documents Using My Style Sheet.)

As for today's topic. Years ago we belonged to a temple, where there was no love lost between the rabbi and the cantor. When the rabbi left for a new congregation, he gave a parting speech in which he thanked everyone and said he would long remember the cantor for his "ubiquitous contumaciousness." The cantor kvelled (which is Yiddish for swelled with pride).
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Re:A PARTRIDGE IN A PEAR TREE
« Reply #107 on: December 16, 2003, 04:47:44 PM »

Fumfer is one of my favorite words

One of mine, too, but go try and find it in a dictionary.

I once dated a girl who told me the word fumfer didn't exist and this so enraged me I dumped her forthwith.  Go question my command of the English language, will you . . . so there!
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« Reply #108 on: December 16, 2003, 04:53:24 PM »

THANK YOU, CHARLES!  Yes, I absolutely must read Good Omens.  

Noel...that anecdote just reminded me of the part in Kissing Jessica Stein where Jessica is on a date and they guy she's with says that he's very self-defecating....and then there's the part where she's sitting at the table with a group of friends and her friend's date says someone is malcompetent.  Jessica gets a complete look of disgust on her face, it's great.
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« Reply #109 on: December 16, 2003, 05:22:55 PM »

I'd have to say one of my favorite words is recalcitrant.  As in "The RECALCITRANT Lulu has been away from HHW for quite awhile."

And, I fear, I shall be recalcitrant for awhile longer, for tomorrow morning I am headed up north for the wilds of central Indiana, where I will dance a jig and an hora while wearing the Official Hat of Indiana, which, as everybody surely knows, is the bowler.

I don't believe I'll have internet access while there, so my recalcitrance shall continue unabated until, possibly, the New Year.  So Happy Holidays, everyone!  Eat some ham chunks and cheese slices (or even ham slices and cheese chunks) for me.
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« Reply #110 on: December 16, 2003, 05:24:52 PM »


Noel...that anecdote just reminded me of the part in Kissing Jessica Stein where Jessica is on a date and they guy she's with says that he's very self-defecating....and then there's the part where she's sitting at the table with a group of friends and her friend's date says someone is malcompetent.  Jessica gets a complete look of disgust on her face, it's great.

And, if I recall correctly, Jessica was criticized in the film for being too picky because she rejected those prospective suitors for their misuse of the language.  And I thought to myself, "You go, girl!"
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« Reply #111 on: December 16, 2003, 05:26:43 PM »

[move=left,scroll,6,transparent,100%]Come back, Lulu, come back![/move]
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« Reply #112 on: December 16, 2003, 05:29:33 PM »

Yes Lulu, Indiana wants you....some come on home for awhile.

Thank you DR CHARLES POGUE for the Harlan Ellison insights.  Had I read the listings, I am sure I would have watched him on Snyder and Maher....grrrrrrrrrrr....the things you miss.

Watching STRICTLY BALLROOM on IFC....DR MATTH did you see it yet???

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« Reply #113 on: December 16, 2003, 05:32:49 PM »

DR Jay:  What, are you makin' like Ed Norton all of a sudden?  Don't sleepwalk over me, okay...I ain't worth it. ;)
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« Reply #114 on: December 16, 2003, 05:41:36 PM »

DR Jay:  What, are you makin' like Ed Norton all of a sudden?  Don't sleepwalk over me, okay...I ain't worth it. ;)

Actually, it was my Brandon De Wilde imitation.
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« Reply #115 on: December 16, 2003, 05:47:51 PM »

TCB - My father told me last night that he's got pneumonia, too... coincidence???  I think not! :D

Am currently enjoying a yummy bit of BK's Wacky Noodles, along with some also yummy cheese-garlic bread.
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« Reply #116 on: December 16, 2003, 05:52:29 PM »


A favorite combo of mine, whether it's legit or not:

post-tumescent

And I'm fond of

smarmy

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« Reply #117 on: December 16, 2003, 05:57:39 PM »

Fershluganah has become a regular part of my vocabulary.  A very fine word, that one.
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« Reply #118 on: December 16, 2003, 06:03:19 PM »

In honor of the 100th Anniversary of their first flight....you can go to this website, and if you have MacroMedia Shockwave - you can make the simulated Wrights Bros. flight.  It's noisy and scary!

http://firstflight.open.ac.uk/takeoff04.html
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« Reply #119 on: December 16, 2003, 06:15:53 PM »

Favorite Cheesy Films:

One of my very favorite "cheesy" movies is "Grease II" -- don't ask me to 'splain it.  I can't.  But I love it, love it, love it!  And I love the "I'll Be Your Girl For All Seasons" number.
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