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Re:WAXING NOSTALGIC
« Reply #30 on: August 29, 2006, 08:04:41 AM »

The musings about record stores of old were certainly wonderfully nostalgic and brought back lots of memories.

Listening booths! Haven't thought about those in many decades, but I can remember the first time I ever went into one: I was trying to decide which version of "Volare" I wanted my father to buy for me. I eventually opted for the Dean Martin version, but I listened to all the versions that record store in Charlotte had.
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« Reply #31 on: August 29, 2006, 08:05:31 AM »

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« Reply #32 on: August 29, 2006, 08:07:41 AM »

I can remember when drug stores had bins for cast recordings. In fact, Columbia had a special cardboard bin that housed just their cast recordings with the mono versions on the left and the stereo versions ($1 more) on the right. There was also a black and white catalogue you could take free that listed all their cast recording catalogue with thumbnails of the covers. How times have changed!
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« Reply #33 on: August 29, 2006, 08:13:23 AM »

Looking forward to the season finale of RESCUE ME tonight. Will also get to DEADWOOD's finale and last night's VANISHED which I hope is as twisty and surprising as the pilot.

Still have MUTINY ON THE BOUNTY to finish as well. The mutiny had just begun when my surprise visitor showed up Sunday afternoon.
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« Reply #34 on: August 29, 2006, 08:29:18 AM »

When I was growing up, I didn't get a weekly allowance. I did my chores around the house, did what I was told, and I was pretty much bought anything I wanted (within reason) when I asked for it.

I did save money I'd get for birthdays, Christmas, etc., and I can remember the first LP I bought with my own money. After I saw the movie of THE MUSIC MAN, I wanted the soundtrack album. My mom happened to be in a record store and bought me THE MUSIC MAN, but she bought the Broadway recording. Much as I liked it (and it did have some of the same people as the movie and most of the same music as the film), I wanted the movie soundtrack, so I went to the store as soon as I could get someone to drive me and bought the soundtrack with my money. Both my parents thought I had wasted my money buying two of "the same thing," and no amount of explanation could convince them otherwise.

I remember once when I got home from college one weekend, my mother said she had been cleaning my bedroom, got to my LPs, and couldn't believe how many duplicates I had. Once again, I had to explain to her that the cast recording of WEST SIDE STORY or THE KING AND I or MY FAIR LADY or LI'L ABNER was very different from the respective soundtrack recording. She just shook her head.

I was a total alien to my family.
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« Reply #35 on: August 29, 2006, 08:37:30 AM »

Off to tend to a few things and then start on preparing lunch.

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« Reply #36 on: August 29, 2006, 08:48:24 AM »

Record stores, now there's a way to get me talking...

My first record that I purchased was Journey's "Evolution," but I had been given the STAR WARS soundtrack, and had older siblings who had records, and my folks kept a cabinet of records in the basement. When I got my first stereo, I would just go grab records from downstairs and pretend I was running a radio station in my bedroom.

There was only one little record shop on the town square, but if you wanted the good stuff, there were two chain shops in the mall: Recordland and Camelot. Then, if I was really lucky, mom might take me beyond the mall to a store called Hegewisch Records.

Hegewisch was like walking into a different world. Covered with heavy metal posters, t-shirts, drug parephenalia for sale, but a selection of music I just couldn't get anywhere else in NW Indiana.

When we left Indiana for Atlanta, I refused to let my folks trash any of their old albums, and I have stewarded these records around wherever I lived as my own collection grew.
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« Reply #37 on: August 29, 2006, 08:53:59 AM »

Atlanta was like another world, however. Great record stores abounded. There was a chain there called Turtle's that was everywhere. I mean probably 50 stores in the area. Then my favorite place out by the flea market called Eat More Records, which was finally gone, last time I went to Atlanta. It was run by an immense man, maybe 500 lbs, hence the name of the store. Then there were good stores in Atlanta proper Wax and Facts and Wuxtry, where I could get all kinds of the stuff I was into.

But I also found at that time, you could get used records on the cheap, and so, one could haunt flea markets and thrift shops and make some really great finds, as I do to this day.
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« Reply #38 on: August 29, 2006, 08:56:49 AM »

I'm up, I'm up.  

My first version of Volare was, I believe, the original by Dominico Modugno (have no idea if that's spelled correctly or not).

Must begin proofing right this very minute.

elmore, Steve Gurey used to be a poster here - then, as others have done, he left. He still reads, though, and does the trivia contests.  I wish he'd post, too, and I've said so, but, you know, people do what people do.

And where is William F. Orr?
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« Reply #39 on: August 29, 2006, 08:57:35 AM »

Since in NYC, I have seen so many stores close, big chains like HMV, smaller chains like Record Explosion, mom and pop shops like Holy Cow Records and Footlight... Various Coconuts and Sam Goodie's have disappeared.

A few decent spots remain, and then Virgin and Tower. Much as Amoeba may have gone downhill, that place seems like heaven when I am out west compared to stores here.
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« Reply #40 on: August 29, 2006, 09:05:03 AM »

My most ethereal record shopping experience:

In the early 1980s, I was aware of, but wholly without access to, a slew of re-pressings of classic soundtrack albums that had long been deleted in American record label catalogs.

I had no idea exactly what was out there, but I had a good idea I wanted most of it.

As fate would have it -- and the luck of the Irish blood within me -- I was in the right place and right time -- and favored by the officer in charge of the school -- to be selected as the military journalism instructor to travel to an Air Force Base in Luton, UK, to teach a 3-day class on how to write stories for a base newspaper.  The USAF was footing the bill.  The trouble was that this base was divided between "general access" and "no access-highly restricted".  Of course, those in the "highly restricted" areas NEVER saw themselves, or anything they did, reported on in the base paper.  My job was to teach them to write stories about their jobs and their interests without compromising security.

Enough background...I tacked three days of vacation to the end of my trip and spent those days in London at the Tower Hotel.  My goal was to re-visit this glorious city AND to find some of those re-pressed jewels of recorded film music.

I went through the UK version of the yellow pages, and found only addresses of shops.  I struck out on my own to see if I'd get lucky.  In the first day of looking, I found one item I wanted.  In the second day, I widened my search and went far afield, asking questions of clerks who seemed unaware that anyone other than themselves sold records.

By the end of the 2nd day, I was deflated.  I wanted nothing more than to return to my hotel and soak in a hot tub and sip a nice cup of tea.  I managed to get within a block or two of Piccadilly Station when I became a bit disoriented.  I stopped to check my map...as I turned it round to find where I was, I looked across a street to find its name.   What I found instead was a storefront with a HUGE plate glass window.

And on that window, I discovered the words that confirmed my belief in angels or, at least, "the force."

There was "58 Dean Street" -- Specialists in Original Soundtracks, Cast Recordings and Celebrity Recordings.

I carefully crossed the street (lest fate laughingly smite me down) and entered the shop (56 minutes before its closing time).  Bins and bins and bins of recordings.

And along one wall...SOUNDTRACKS...bins and bins of them.

As time was of the essence, I started at one end and worked my way toward the other.  I pulled and stacked LPs as I went along.  I was on a "budget", but I'd been generous in my preparations by buying sufficient American Express checks to cover me should I be in an emergency.  After having winnowed through the lot, and keeping my eye on the ticking clock, I found myself with a pile of 30-plus LPs.  

I sorted through them, made a few difficult decisions and got the lot down to 25 LPs (not purely CHEAP, either).

After the ringing up, I had to rush from the shop to a nearby exchange office to convert a few checks to pounds.  I rushed back and still had time to chat a bit with the owners.  I was very pleased with my findings, and those records are still cherished prizes in my collection.

Over the years, 58 Dean Street was a source for the unobtainable for me (pre-internet, of course).  

They are no longer there, having relocated a number of years ago (rather sad, actually, like the ending of "84 Charing Cross Road").  They may not be at the new site any longer.  I believe they might do business online, but I've forgotten the name.

There IS a P.S.  I took that hot bath, and I sipped that hot cup of tea.  I had a nice dinner.  And I had a nice night's sleep.  However, by the time I had called a taxi to take me to Gatwick, I'd decided I wanted two of the cast-offs from the day before.  So...we stopped, I dashed, I grabbed and I paid...and made it to Gatwick in plenty of time.
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« Reply #41 on: August 29, 2006, 09:14:23 AM »

The one time I went to New York, I went to Colony (fool that I was).  Everything was SO expensive, but I was in New York and I had a credit card!  I spent over $500 in one shopping trip!!  I bought a couple of CDs, the complete London concert cast recording of Nine with Jonathan Pryce (not yet available in the US) and the 1994 Swedish live cast recording of Chess in Concert , but I also got on vinyl the aforementioned London cast recording of 1776 and the original London cast recording of Children of Eden...with Ken Page!  I was in heaven!  I know I got more than those four recordings, but I can't remember what else I got there.

I eventually did get to Footlight, but I couldn't stay more than a few minutes.  If I'd gone there first, I would definitely spent more money!
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« Reply #42 on: August 29, 2006, 09:21:22 AM »

Don't know if this is still true, because the same site has Footlight still around, but here is what became of Ron's place:

Rare Discs, 18 Bloomsbury St, London WC1, England; ph: 0171-580-3516 • Has LPs and CDs, soundtracks, musicals, casts, personalities, and nostalgia. Formerly 58 Dean Street Records.
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« Reply #43 on: August 29, 2006, 09:22:49 AM »

I never had the pleasure of listening booths, as I think those went out of style by the time I came around to shopping at record stores.

Ashland had a wonderful record store called RARE EARTH. They eventually opened a second store in Medford. As a teenager I remember going to buy the first CULTURE CLUB album with my friend Steve Bartlett. We were quite shocked, yet intrigued, when we saw the album cover as we had expected to see a group of black singers and instead saw Boy George. Steve bought the album and I bought the lates Bonnie Tyler offering.

Later I recall buying some of those cool picture LPs where the LP was shaped oddly and/or had the album cover actually printed on the album...I think the first one I bought was a Kid Creole and the Coconuts...it was beautiful, but I don't know whatever happened to it. I also bought a WHAM U.K. album...this was just prior to their becoming popular in the U.S.
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« Reply #44 on: August 29, 2006, 09:24:40 AM »

Rare Earth is still here.  I haven't checked out the music section since they downsized the store.

MBarnum was it only music way back when?  Now they sell clothing & all sorts of fun things.
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« Reply #45 on: August 29, 2006, 09:25:36 AM »

Salem has two very large used CD stores which also have huge sections of LPs, a format which must still be popular here. Portland also has quite a few used cd stores that also carry LPs.

And as I mentioned to DR Rodzinski, you can find loads of vintage LPs at many of our local thrift shops...I believe ST Vincent DePaul has a 5 for a buck special going on right now, still!
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« Reply #46 on: August 29, 2006, 09:26:30 AM »

I myself do not miss LPs or cassatte tapes, and much prefer the CD format. However, I do appreciate the beauty of many of the old LP covers.
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« Reply #47 on: August 29, 2006, 09:27:48 AM »

Ginny - thanks very much for the suggestion to have an exercise in tomorrow evening's workshop, wherein participants focus on a successful achievement, what personal resources they brought to the project and how they used their intellignece, skills, talent, etc. to create a successful outcome!!! I know it works - they'll love it.
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« Reply #48 on: August 29, 2006, 09:29:50 AM »

Rare Earth is still here.  I haven't checked out the music section since they downsized the store.

MBarnum was it only music way back when?  Now they sell clothing & all sorts of fun things.

If I recall, RARE EARTH also sold candles, some hippy type clothing and t-shirts, and other odds and ends.
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« Reply #49 on: August 29, 2006, 09:31:46 AM »

Atlanta was like another world, however.


When were you in Atlanta?  Did you live there?

Where in Indiana did you live?
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« Reply #50 on: August 29, 2006, 09:34:28 AM »

Don't know if this is still true, because the same site has Footlight still around, but here is what became of Ron's place:

Rare Discs, 18 Bloomsbury St, London WC1, England; ph: 0171-580-3516 • Has LPs and CDs, soundtracks, musicals, casts, personalities, and nostalgia. Formerly 58 Dean Street Records.

BINGO!

Thanks!
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« Reply #51 on: August 29, 2006, 09:37:33 AM »

DR PENNYO - yup those of use who spend a lot of time in front of people take it for granted that everyone can do it.

However the NUMBER ONE fear in the US (even more than death) is speaking in public.

That statistic was actually in my grant proposal to the Arts Commission!!! isn't it a strange one!
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« Reply #52 on: August 29, 2006, 09:40:19 AM »

I've told one of my favorite record-store stories before, but it's a favorite family memory (it gets told over and over at family get-togethers) so I'll repeat it, or actually cut-and-paste it from the last time I told it.

The first place I lived in after "officially" moving out of my parent's place in 1986 was a studio apartment that came fully furnished on 57th Street between 2nd and 3rd Avenues. I had worked part-time during college at 57th and 3rd, and had always told myself that I wanted to live in that area someday when I could afford it, and six years later, I could sort-of manage a studio in that area, so i grabbed it when I found it. The furnishings were quite simple but sweet, and the move in was oh so simple, since I was able to leave so much of my stuff at my parents' place in Brooklyn, and move in slowly.

My mother and father did everything they could to keep her 26-year-old baby from leaving home, but the situation was ideal. Fully, tastefully furnished, rent not that exorbitant for Manhattan, lovely neighborhood. Finally, with nothing else to say, my Mom (who has delicious comic timing, even when she tries to be serious) looked at me and said, starting off deadpan but hitting the word "Crazy" real hard: "Well, to be honest with you, I don't know if this is such a safe block to live on, I mean, with that CRAAAAZY Eddie store right downstairs." (Only my Mom could make CRAAAAZY Eddie sound like it must be some sort of nuthouse.)
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« Reply #53 on: August 29, 2006, 09:47:16 AM »

I don't remember going into record stores as a kid. We didn't get much of an allowance, so I didn't go to much more than the local down-the-block candy store once a week. I do remember being with my mom in a drugstore or someplace like that, maybe I was eight or nine. I saw a bin of records and flipped through them and found one with a ballerina on the cover. My ballerina mom bought it for me - and her. It turned out to be excerpts from great ballets - Tchaikovsky, Delibes, "white ballet" stuff. I kept it for a long time - wonder if I still have it somewhere, or if it's in among my mom's old records? Funny - I wanted it for the picture on the cover and had no idea what music might be on it.
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« Reply #54 on: August 29, 2006, 10:00:44 AM »

Ginny - thanks very much for the suggestion to have an exercise in tomorrow evening's workshop, wherein participants focus on a successful achievement, what personal resources they brought to the project and how they used their intellignece, skills, talent, etc. to create a successful outcome!!! I know it works - they'll love it.

DR PennyO - I think it was Cillaliz who suggested the exercise - I just found the quote which elaborated on it!  At any rate, it's great that you're the kind of teacher who can be so responsive to students' needs and adapt your agenda accordingly.  They'll love it!
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« Reply #55 on: August 29, 2006, 10:05:39 AM »

More TOD - Ann Arbor, MI, late '60's/early '70's.  Discount Records on the corner of State and Liberty and Liberty Music Store a couple blocks west.  Of course, this was when Borders was a brother-owned used bookstore on State Street, too.  The last time I visited that corner, in 2002 as the mom of a prospective student, I was saddened by the homogenization of A2.
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« Reply #56 on: August 29, 2006, 10:32:31 AM »

DR PennyO - I think it was Cillaliz who suggested the exercise - I just found the quote which elaborated on it!  At any rate, it's great that you're the kind of teacher who can be so responsive to students' needs and adapt your agenda accordingly.  They'll love it!

Thanks to Cillaliz! (all intelligent professional women look alike to me...) I have used this very exercise in my Art As Lifework seminars... I think I was doing "Factual" on my syllabus for this round of workshops - but it always comes down to the same challenge, and that is inspiring people to dare to be themselves and do their heart's work.

It does help if one was something of a Misfit, growing up - there is less of a temptation to try to be "good" or to please others or get approval. If you learn early on that you annoy people and just can't get it "right" perhaps you are more inclined to go off on your own and please the ONE person you have a chance of pleasing...
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« Reply #57 on: August 29, 2006, 10:37:30 AM »

More TOD - Ann Arbor, MI, late '60's/early '70's.  Discount Records on the corner of State and Liberty and Liberty Music Store a couple blocks west.  Of course, this was when Borders was a brother-owned used bookstore on State Street, too.  The last time I visited that corner, in 2002 as the mom of a prospective student, I was saddened by the homogenization of A2.

In 1999 while driving back to NY from a Thanksgiving trip to Minnesota we stayed with a friend who lived in Ann Arbor on Liberty St. While he was at work we went wandering and found the same record store. I was estactic because at that store I finally found the Chad Mitchell Trio album that would complete my collection on vinyl. When I found it I was so happy I stopped looking for anything else and we left the store with me walking on air!
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« Reply #58 on: August 29, 2006, 10:49:17 AM »

When I was young I don't remember buying records in any special place...usually in a department store or anyplace that sold them.  There was a record shop in downtown Cincy, but I don't recall its name.  And I used to buy used records at Ohio Book Store down on Main Street, Cincinnati.  I always like to look in record bargain bins and found many a gem in those...like Heiroynmus Merkin and those Hundred and One String thingies.

I remember the University bookstore at the University of Kentucky at a great bargain bin.

But I think the first time my jaw dropped when I saw a record store was when a chain called PEACHES opened up in Dallas, Texas.  I thought I'd died and gone to heaven.  

There used to be a very good record shop right on Hollywood Boulevard amidst all the bookstores on the northside.  It's name, alas, escapes me.

BK, I assume Canterbury is still in Pasadena, though they really haven't had records for years.  And there is, of course, our beloved Counterpoint down on Franklin in Hollywood.   If you ever get out here, we've got a place called Pops that you'd loved!  Lots and lots of old records!

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« Reply #59 on: August 29, 2006, 11:19:57 AM »

I'm definitely getting out there, Pogue.  I NEED a vacation.

Back from the jog - three more stories to re-proof.  Haven't heard from Grant, so don't know if we're on or not.  I've found a handful of new corrections - couple more that I just hadn't caught the first time through (or that my two expert proofers had caught), and a couple of things that happened because of other fixes we made on Sunday.
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