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« Reply #90 on: January 30, 2004, 01:36:01 PM »

Best of thought to WFO and Joe.  Sounds as if you've really been dragged through the mud again and again with all this.  Hope it all ends soon, and as painlessly as possible at this point.

Happy early birthday to Michael Shayne.

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DVD - nothing since The Pianist about a week ago
VCR - Eddie Izzard Definite Article
CDs - City of Angels OBC, Merrily We Roll Along (York revival), Al Jarreau Tenderness
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« Reply #91 on: January 30, 2004, 01:37:47 PM »

I'm afraid the laserdisc for HAWAII doesn't offer much help in sorting out the answer to the sound controversy. On the laser, the sound is billed as having been "digitally enhanced for Surround Stereo." The liner notes says that in doing the reconstruction of the original 3 hour roadshow release, they returned to composer Elmer Bernstein for the stereo sound stems for music cut from the original release (23 minutes cut from the original roadshow presentation for the general release print including Overture, Intermission, and Exit Music.)
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« Reply #92 on: January 30, 2004, 01:38:14 PM »

BK: I just did a search on "Hawaii". You did not it seems answers Mike Shayne's question about "My Wishing Doll". Did the song make it to the recording you have been playing? Some of us song collectors have been searching for years.
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« Reply #93 on: January 30, 2004, 01:42:27 PM »

First off...Happy Birthday to Mr. Micheal Shayne...!

Second off...in the deeveedee player is Blacula and the new double-disc of Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country.  The latter movie has been slightly re-tooled from the previous releases of the film.  Whether that's good or not depends on your point of view; personally, I didn't think it needed any modification.

Plus, all these deeveedee re-dos are getting a bit ridiculous, and makes me wonder if what I saw in the theater was just a rough draft or something.  Star Trek, isn't the only guilty party in this: the Alien movies, Dances With Wolves, Raiders of the Lost Ark, Superman: The Movie...if it was good enough to get into the theaters, shouldn't be good enough for release on home video?  

Ah....but I digress...!

In the CD player is Miklos Rozsa's score to The World, the Flesh and the Devil, and (because it was mentioned here, and I hadn't listened to it in quite a while, Jerry Goldsmith's Mephisto Waltz/The Other.  I haven't seen either film, but when Goldsmith goes into avant-garde territory, it's always worthwhile.  Another recent find was Gert Wilden's funky Schoolgirl Report, which is terrific, fun music written for German softcore porn movies, apparently.  (I'd post a pic of the cover, but this is a family site, right?

Today, it's -12 degrees in Minneapolis, with a -20 wind chill.  It's nice to be in my toasty-warm condo's computer room....!
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« Reply #94 on: January 30, 2004, 01:44:18 PM »

Oh DR Noel: Didn't you and your DW Joy see Wicked very recently. I was hoping you guys would give us a report.
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« Reply #95 on: January 30, 2004, 01:47:28 PM »

I haven't heard The Wishing Doll yet, but am only in the middle of disc one.  I'll check the inlay later.

Interesting laser stuff.  I doubt that they got anything from Elmer because when they were doing this CD that's who they went to see if he had stuff.  He had nothing.  What they found (the mono tracks) was supposed to have been delivered to him ages ago but never was.  Further complicating matters, what I'd assumed were the damaged Hawaii tracks were, in fact, The Hallelujah Trail tracks in the Hawaii boxes.  So, there is no clear story in the booklet about whether they ever actually found the Hawaii tracks or not.
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« Reply #96 on: January 30, 2004, 01:54:26 PM »

LOL....a mystery....yes I thought that was strange as well....if it was released in 6 channel why wouldn't it be shown in stereo?  Strange.

http://shop.store.yahoo.com/buysoundtrax/hawdeledorso.html

The above track listing does NOT include "The Wishing Doll."  :'(
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« Reply #97 on: January 30, 2004, 01:54:29 PM »

Thanks BK.  I shall stay tuned.
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« Reply #98 on: January 30, 2004, 01:59:26 PM »

On the original LP "My Wishing Doll" theme was included on the Main Title and then reprised on track 11 "Abner" which I am assuming is a music only track as well.  I had the LP, but don't know if I still have it.
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« Reply #99 on: January 30, 2004, 02:05:22 PM »

This from a FilmScore Monthly column 6/27/03:

3) If Julie Andrews recorded a full-length version of "My Wishing Doll" (as she did for STAR), it has been unavailable to date. Not even on the new expanded soundtrack. It's possible there were recording company issues at the time or G.R. Hill recorded the sound live during filming (the latter is doubtful given a star of Andrews magnitude at the time.)

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« Reply #100 on: January 30, 2004, 02:21:46 PM »

I have 2 questions for DRs:

1. How many people went and ate Chinese food yesterday? :)

2. Can anyone recommend any newly released dvd/videos? I am heading to the video store tomorrow and am not sure what to rent.
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« Reply #101 on: January 30, 2004, 02:24:11 PM »

Oh DR Noel: Didn't you and your DW Joy see Wicked very recently. I was hoping you guys would give us a report.

What to say about Wicked?

Well, it has a trio of star performances: Idina Menzel, Kristen Chenoweth and Norbert Leo Butz certainly deliver the goods.

But what are these goods?  It's quite frustrating, really.  There's SO much that is good about Wicked, but, moment after moment, it fails to deliver emotionally.

The book has some charming twists and funny lines.  And things happen, and you're waiting to be moved, musically, by a turn of the plot.  And yet there's often no pay-off.

This is because the creators haven't effectively dramatized their story.  It's hard to go into details without giving away plot points, so I can only speak in very general terms: Twoards the end of the first act, the heroine discovers something that deeply disappoints her.  Do we feel her disappointment?  Nope.  The dialogue is whizzing by too fast, without stopping to flesh out the protagonist's feelings.  When she finally sings Defying Gravity, it's too late.  We're ahead of her.  The curtain comes down later than it needed to, and we're left without the sense of excitement we expect from an act finale.

In a musical that features an intricate plot (and I like musicals that feature intricate plots), an audience being ahead is a serious defect.  And that's what stops Wicked from being a very good musical.
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« Reply #102 on: January 30, 2004, 02:30:13 PM »

Still can't wait to see/hear it! next month.
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« Reply #103 on: January 30, 2004, 02:45:49 PM »

also can't wait to wiggle and belt, when it's my turn for Follies. Elderly opera soprano given one more chance to haul out tattered remains of a once-lovely voice and spin the magical spell of that shimmering melody... ah. Waitin' for it. I can taste it. Look for me in 20 years...
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« Reply #104 on: January 30, 2004, 02:50:24 PM »

Watched THE WOMAN IN GREEN and the first part of PURSUIT TO ALGIERS, and the new Sherlock Holmes transfers look just fine. Really looking forward to TERROR BY NIGHT as this one has been in release in ghastly public domain prints for years. This one may well be the acid test for the series. It also happens to be one of my personal favorites.

Regardless, though, I am thrilled to have the 12 Universals in my DVD collection looking as wonderful as they do.
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« Reply #105 on: January 30, 2004, 02:52:23 PM »

also can't wait to wiggle and belt, when it's my turn for Follies. Elderly opera soprano given one more chance to haul out tattered remains of a once-lovely voice and spin the magical spell of that shimmering melody... ah. Waitin' for it. I can taste it. Look for me in 20 years...

Hell, PennyO, I won't be around in twenty years.  Couldn't you just cheat, and do it in ten?
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« Reply #106 on: January 30, 2004, 02:52:59 PM »

I love Basil Rathbone. He is the greatest of the Sherlock's, imho.
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« Reply #107 on: January 30, 2004, 02:54:04 PM »

Hell, PennyO, I won't be around in twenty years.  Couldn't you just cheat, and do it in ten?

Well, my Angel, the way I'm going, it may not be cheating in 10 -- or even 6!!
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« Reply #108 on: January 30, 2004, 03:01:55 PM »

Okay, gang - I'm diving into the murky roiling torrent of automobiles sloshing toward Hollywood - for sheet music and, ultimately, no-carb dining with our own bk. bye!
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« Reply #109 on: January 30, 2004, 03:03:45 PM »

Well, my Angel, the way I'm going, it may not be cheating in 10 -- or even 6!!
TCB has just been confused with his cat (Angel).
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« Reply #110 on: January 30, 2004, 03:09:57 PM »

I agree, DR Penny, about Basil Rathbone, and he was also a wonderful actor in other roles, too. I wish I could have seen him in his Tony-winning role as the original Dr. Sloper in the Broadway version of THE HEIRESS. Alas, I wasn't born yet.
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« Reply #111 on: January 30, 2004, 03:10:23 PM »

FOLLIES has always worked for me, as a young adult when I saw the Broadway production and now even more passionately as someone well into middle age who can look back at choices he made with some humor and also some regret.


DR MattH – I hope you didn’t misunderstand what I was saying about Follies.  I love almost every moment of that show.  I love the themes that are raised, I love the characters, I love the setting, and I especially love the fantastic music.  But still, with all that going for it, the show slams into a brick wall when it gets to Loveland.  You can see the people in the audience looking at each other trying to figure out what is going on.  I don’t know if it needs a different set-up, or what, but that is the one thing that keeps Follies from being a total masterpiece.

Still, I will run to see Follies produced, anytime or anywhere.  And maybe, in a few years, when PennyO does her production; I can do the Ethel Shutta role!  I'm just a Broadway Baby......
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« Reply #112 on: January 30, 2004, 03:13:35 PM »

TCB has just been confused with his cat (Angel).

Maybe PennyO was speaking to my cat.
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« Reply #113 on: January 30, 2004, 03:26:14 PM »

Drat! The Cat!

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« Reply #114 on: January 30, 2004, 03:33:51 PM »

MATTH, I do have to admit to liking the song that Mary Eaton sings in Cocanuts...MONKEY DOODLE-DO! It is fun. I definately do not dislike the movie, it just isn't one of my favorites.
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« Reply #115 on: January 30, 2004, 03:35:05 PM »

DR TCB,. I understood exactly what you were saying about FOLLIES and OTHER audience members' confusion about "Loveland." I said that FOLLIES had always worked FOR ME, and that's what I meant. I understood exactly what "Loveland" was about and it caused me no confusion then or now. In fact, if the actors are really strong in the four leads, "Loveland" con be incredibly moving, even heartbreaking. The original certainly was for me. When the sequence ended, and we went back to the Weissman Theater, I was so devastated that the few remaining moments were almost lost due to my emotions being so wrung out. But I tend to get DEEPLY involved in everything I see.
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« Reply #116 on: January 30, 2004, 03:52:46 PM »

Good afternoon!  Good evening!

Here we go again:

The Good News: I was up and adam - not with adam unfortunately - at 4:00am.  I showered, I dressed, I re-packed my bags. The cab showed up right on time at 5:00am.  He got me to the Amtrak station in about 10 minutes, and about $4.00 cheaper than that fare usually runs - of course, the early morning hour and no traffic could have had something to do with that, but still...  I got a nice seat on the train, and even got to catch a few more winks on the way up to DC.  The venue for the auditions was just a block away from the Metro station.  I was done by 3:40, and I'll be done by Noon tomorrow!  -Even though I'm officially booked - and paid(!) - until 5:00!  So, I should be back home in Richmond by 4:00!
The Bad News: There's a strong possibility I may have left my cell phone in the cab this morning in Richmond.  UGH!!  -First in Orlando, now in Richmond?!?!  -Which happen to be the only two times I've taken a cab in the past year!  The driver is on the late shift, so I'll be calling him later - thankfully, I asked for a receipt.  What I'm hoping is that it's just sitting in my apartment, hiding from view from my roommate, with the ringer still off from last night's class.  Ah, well... At least the calling card I bought at CVS at lunch was on sale!

Oh, and I had Chinese food for lunch today!  Very good Chinese food too: Hot & Sour Soup, and Yu Shiang Chicken - and the restaurant I went to uses only fresh,  organic veggies - well, that's what all their ads and menus say.  And, best of all, I only paid about $6.00 for all of it - and that included a 25% tip!  -It's also a block from the venue, and I may end up grabbing lunch there tomorrow before heading back to Union Station to catch Amtrak southbound.

Well, that's it for me today.... Oh...

Media Check - I've been playing catching up on CDs this week - kinda-sorta: Avenue Q, Wicked, Cyndi Lauper's "At Last", a Holly Cole album I can't remember the name of right now (her version of "I Can See Clearly Now..." is still my favorite), Little Shop of Horrors revival, Josh Groban's new one (eh... can you say "overproduced"?), Elton John and Time Rice's Aida... I think that's it.  OH, and I arranged the rest of my stack of unplayed CDs, and set up an empty rack to place them on once I listen to them... so that's progress in one form or another.
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« Reply #117 on: January 30, 2004, 03:58:39 PM »

Taking a posting break... I discovered the other day (from our esteemed bk) that the Tex Avery laser disk which I sold at a garage sale just before moving here, for - get ready - two dollars - you heard me - TWO DOLLARS - is worth around 100 times two dollars. Oy. And I even had to convince the old guy who bought it to buy it. At first he thought it was a record. He was disapponted that it wasn't, but thought his son-in-law might have "something to play it on." I don't even want to think about the other laser disks I sold.
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« Reply #118 on: January 30, 2004, 04:02:02 PM »

...And the ones I didn't sell I gave to the Humane Society Thrift Shop and Goodwill.
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« Reply #119 on: January 30, 2004, 04:03:14 PM »

I keep doing stuff like this and people will start calling me "that wacky blonde."
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