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« Reply #120 on: February 05, 2004, 04:21:46 PM »

Evening all!

I'm glad Jane said this first because I was going to have to ask is a Silver Daddie better or worse than a Gold Daddie or a Bronze Daddie  because I didn't have a clue what that meant.  I won't be going to that site.  


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thanks for the warning Dan-in-Toronto.   Jennifer you should have heeded Dan’s advice.
 
Well the thing is, when people say something is inappropriate (but don't elaborate) it makes me curious.

If Dan (or anyone) had said it showed full frontal of older naked men, I would not have looked :)


I do have to say that I heard something on TV tonight that just floored me and I can't even repeat it here.  I didn't catch the first part but it was a commercial about a drug for men.  I won't say more but my jaw hit the floor...

I hope everyone is doing better today than yesterday.  

Good job on the weight loss,  Bruce!  We are the new light weights of the board!
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« Reply #121 on: February 05, 2004, 04:42:34 PM »

I would sincerely like to know, however, how it is that London is able to so successfully keep its ticket prices within reach of the average person, while Broadway seems destined to wind up the sole province of the rich.  I'm not being sarcastic here, I truly can't figure out why the difference is so striking.

Lulu, I don't know a lot of the details about this, but here are some of the reasons tickets cost so much more in New York than in London:

1) Advertising costs.  In New York, you simply have to have an ad in the "ABCs" section of The New York Times every day.  The Times charges a forture for this and there's no similar cost for a London newspaper.

2) Union costs.  You may have read about the recent musicians' strike.  On Broadway, if you score your musical for 8 musicians, you may still have to pay for 18.  Such are the union rules and the unions honor each others' strikes.  Say you create a show with a set that goes beyond the procenium.  Therefore, no curtain.  You're still going to have to pay a good salary to a union curtain rope-puller.  Sounds like a joke.  Isn't.  Unions in England are so much more reasonable.

3) Corporate investors.  Broadway is usally funded by mega-corporations who are looking to earn a huge return on their dollar.  In London, you're more likely to find an individual investor, more willing to take a risk.

And of course Britain's National Theatre is subsidized by the government.

But here's something I don't understand.  Compare 42nd Street and I Am My Own Wife.  One has a very large cast with tons of costumes and scene changes; the other a cast of one on a single set.  Why should the ticket prices for these two shows be remotely similar?
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« Reply #122 on: February 05, 2004, 04:54:26 PM »

Thanks for the good vibes yesterday DR's one and all.

Budget constraints were causing problems in my department and as the last person hired (10 years ago) I thought I would be the easiest to get rid of.

WELL....at any rate, it was decided instead that things would ease if those you could would volunteer to take a week without pay...which I was first in line to do....1 week is better than 52!  And I think this solution will work, or so they say.

Whew!!!  That was close!  Thanks again!
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« Reply #123 on: February 05, 2004, 05:03:45 PM »

Congratulations, Jrand53! And enjoy your vacation.
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« Reply #124 on: February 05, 2004, 05:04:48 PM »

LOL Feb 16-20

And I also got offered a directing gig - which I accepted.....  
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« Reply #125 on: February 05, 2004, 05:06:09 PM »

Ecck--That still is bad, JRand.  Not to make you worry but I hope it's not "Out of sight, Out of mind".
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« Reply #126 on: February 05, 2004, 05:22:37 PM »

Janet Jackson may have been hypocritical in her apology, but CBS & MTV are just as hypocritical.  Very interesting letters in the Times today.  One saying everyone gets obsessed with Janet Jackson's breast but not the anti-social, foul, misogynistic lyrics of most of the singers who were singing during half-time and then, of course, there were all the erection ads and bimbos displaying cleavage and plenty of flesh in all the other ads.  Hollywood, TV, and Madison Avenue pander to the American audience almost exclusively through sex and violence and that sort of "I'm so hip, I'm such a rebel" slacker image.  Then they get up in arms when someone shows a breast?  Get it off it!  And the height of hypocrisy has to be CBS calling the SuperBowl..."our family programming".  Yeah, right, testosterone programming is family programming.  It gave all those teenage boys and their dads a break from scouring the internet for porn.   I was in the emergency room Sunday (don't ask) and the doctor told me Superbowl Sunday has the highest incidences of spousal abuse in the year.  Guess all those poor wifeys aren't getting the chips and the brew out in front of the TV fast enough.  Family programming indeed.

Also the very fact that the Janet Jackson boob clip has been the most Tivo'd clip and the most downloaded clip ever, shows that there's a whole Hell of a lot of people not nearly as upset about it as CBS & MTV pretend to be.
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« Reply #127 on: February 05, 2004, 05:26:18 PM »

This very topic is discussed in tomorrow's notes which I have written today (or at least partially written today).  

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« Reply #128 on: February 05, 2004, 05:26:44 PM »

Some costs for seats in London have gotten up to 37.50 or 38 pounds, that's getting close to sixty pounds for a ticket.  The National, I think, has pretty much stayed under thirty pounds.  Fairly reasonable.  Now I rarely go to see the big musical productions there...like Lion King and similar Broadway transplant crap (I'll see musicals that originate or are revived there), I don't know what that stuff goes for.
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« Reply #129 on: February 05, 2004, 05:27:16 PM »

You want offensive TV?  How about $#!% like "The Bachelor" and "Who Wants to Marry A Millionaire."  That's offensive TV.  But they do lead to marriage, so under Bushamerica's so-called morality, they are sacrosanct.

I have more to say on this, but I gotta go.  I'm gagging.
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« Reply #130 on: February 05, 2004, 05:27:54 PM »

I had a nice lunch at Art's Deli.  I had scrambled eggs, lox, and onions, no bread, no potatoes.  Also, a small salad beforehand.

The question is: Do I make one of these Trader Joe's sausages I bought yesterday.  The package says they're fully-cooked and all I need to do is slap 'em in a frying pan for a few minutes.  I'm giving it serious thought.
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« Reply #131 on: February 05, 2004, 05:28:50 PM »

Good news JRand. Nice to know that someone has a sense of direction.
Do you have to work the week without pay or is it unpaid leave?
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« Reply #132 on: February 05, 2004, 05:33:07 PM »

Ok, guys, here is another one of those times that I remember reading something but I don't remember when or where.

It seems there was a very church/bible town somewhere in Texas.  The local cable company was going to start offering subscriptions to the Playboy channel.  Well,  the whole town was in an uproar.  They didn’t want that kind of “trash” messing with the morals with their wholesome little town.  There was no point in even offering because “no one” was going to subscribe.  

Three or Four months after all of this, can you guess what the most popular new channel in the town was?  ;D
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« Reply #133 on: February 05, 2004, 05:36:38 PM »

Unpaid leave...LOL....working a week without pay would be VERY close to what I regularly do!   ;D

Now DRCHARLESPOGUE has gotten me started thinking about Van Heflin....  I think that he and Maureen Stapleton were so very good in AIRPORT.  And as for Count Three and Pray, if you would take a look at at in IMDB DR CP and are interested I would be glad to make you a copy of it.  Van, Joanne  :P, Raymond Burr, Jean Willes, Nancy Kulp, Phil Carey, and YES Allison Hayes!  "The rowdy, rousing, rollicking story of Luke Fargo...and his three women!"

"Luke Fargo was through with sin....but sin wasn't through with him!"



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« Reply #134 on: February 05, 2004, 05:38:44 PM »

MR BK - did you watch GODZILLA MOTHRA KING GHIDRAH?
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« Reply #135 on: February 05, 2004, 05:47:39 PM »

DR Pogue - I agree with everything you said (although I didn't see the Super Bowl - but I can imagine). And I certainly was not suggesting that the networks were the victims of the Jackson boob. There are very few - if any -  innocent parties involved here. I suppose I'm just more pissed of than usual at Ms. Jackson because I am SO tired of seeing her brother and his apologists all over the airwaves. As for further fallout, I've just been reading that a scene on ER tonight in which an 80 year old woman's breast was shown has been cut. Let's face it, the whole world is nuts.

I hope your "don't ask" visit to the ER had satsifactory results and there were no loose breasts around to shock you.
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« Reply #136 on: February 05, 2004, 05:51:19 PM »

bk - I hope your serious thinking has led you in the direction of having the sausage. It's a grand night for sausage, says I.
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« Reply #137 on: February 05, 2004, 05:55:32 PM »

I had a nice lunch at Art's Deli.  I had scrambled eggs, lox, and onions, no bread, no potatoes.  Also, a small salad beforehand.

I was also in Art's today around late lunchtime. I did not eat, however. I went in to buy two packs of Sugarless Bubble Yum - which I love and they sell. A heavy man who was called "Art" by those around him was behind the counter. Could that have been Art, himself? A celebrity sighting!

Let's have a detailed report on the sausage.
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« Reply #138 on: February 05, 2004, 06:00:45 PM »

Charles, we paid £37.50 for tickets to Chitty Chitty Bang Bang. The exchange rate was lousy so that turned out to be about $65 but we were in the orchestra 5th row Center and in any Broadway theatre those tickets would have cost (at full price which is what we paid for Chitty) $86.25 to $101.25 (the Theatre Restoration Fee of $1.25 is automatically added to each ticket in NY now) so even for a top price ticket in London, it's cheaper. I never saw a top price above £37.50 but I didn't check out every show. There are also graded seat prices as someone mentioned earlier. There is a real difference between the cost of a balcony seat in London and a seat in the stalls (orchestra) unlike in NY.
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« Reply #139 on: February 05, 2004, 06:13:52 PM »

JRand - That sounds like a sane solution. All the best with the directing gig.
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« Reply #140 on: February 05, 2004, 06:23:53 PM »

Thanks DinTO - I will talk more about it when it gets going a bit.
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« Reply #141 on: February 05, 2004, 06:26:12 PM »

Ben, The lovely wife always likes to sit in the front of the dress circle (mezzanine, I guess it would be called in America), because she likes to be able to see the blocking (old director, that she is)...And front of the Dress Circle is the same as the front half of the stalls.  Top ticket.  It seems to me the going rate is usually, as you said, 37.50pds in the West End, but then you must factor in another 2.50-3.50 for a programme (and then I must have my ice cream at interval). Still and all it's cheaper than here.   And the one thing I won't stint on over there is great seats. I get the best I can get.  I just looked at an old flyer for the National. It seems their prices go from 10pds up to about 32pds.  Though that's from a few years back and I think they've perhaps gone on a cost cutting mission. I paid less than that the last time I was there ($28pds to see Joe Fiennes in an exquisite production of Love's Labour's Lost), but it was a matinee.

I did notice...though I didn't go to it...that the last time I was there, there was a production of THREE SISTERS with Kristen Scott Thomas starting up that was going to charge 40pds.  I hope it wasn't a harbinger of things to come.
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« Reply #142 on: February 05, 2004, 06:30:00 PM »

You know what.  I've seen the light and agree with the President.  He thinks protecting the sanctity of marriage is really, really, really (that is three reallys) important.  In his State of the Union address, he even mentioned that he will submit to the Congress for funding an initiative to promote marriage amongst us red-blooded Americans.  (Well, that is, Americans of the heterosexual variety.)  The President and many of his cronies  colleagues have told us on multiple occasions that marriage is this very, very, very (that is three verys) holy thing that needs to be protected.  I mean, this is hugely, hugely, hugely (that is three hugelys) enormous, since the President's party is one that supposedly believes in small government and not intervening into the business of the states or its individual citizens' private lives.

So I was thinking.  What I was thinking was that the worst action one can take to harm a marriage is getting a divorce, right?  So, what I'd like to see is this:  while everyone right of Dennis Kucinich is getting a twist in their knickers about the events in Massachussets and the possibility of gay marriages and redoubling their energy into passing a Constitutional amendment outlawing gay marriage, I do believe a parallel Constitutional amendment is in order.  A Constitutional amendment outlawing divorce.  After all, nothing is more harmful to a marriage than divorce, right?

Ahh.  Now that debate would be far more interesting than anything else on TV right now, wouldn't it, Dear Readers?  And that includes the discussion over Janet Jackson right breast.
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« Reply #143 on: February 05, 2004, 06:40:09 PM »

Yes, Panni, that was Art himself.  "Every sandwich a work of Art".  

I'm watching Godzilla now and will have a report in tomorrow's notes.

Haven't made a sausage decision yet.

Why, do you know if we had a lively night of postings we would achieve a new record of 25,000 posts?  It will happen tonight or tomorrow.
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« Reply #144 on: February 05, 2004, 06:54:29 PM »

Art himself. I am breathless. ( a Godard reference) He even spoke to me - asked me what cap I was wearing today. As though he keeps track of my caps on a daily basis.

DR Jay - A brilliant idea. Although, being a wanton divorced woman, myself, would this mean I would lose my precious Greencard and be deported?
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« Reply #145 on: February 05, 2004, 06:58:31 PM »

I am through writing for today. Finished. Done. Fertig. Now I have to decide what to have for dinner. I'm leaning in the direction of a Cobb Salad. I should stop leaning before I fall into said Cobb Salad - and what a mess that would be!
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« Reply #146 on: February 05, 2004, 06:59:27 PM »

What's with the monologue? I see live people - but nobody's saying anything.
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« Reply #147 on: February 05, 2004, 07:01:07 PM »

Don't you love the word "wanton"?
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« Reply #148 on: February 05, 2004, 07:01:42 PM »

DR Jay - A brilliant idea. Although, being a wanton divorced woman, myself, would this mean I would lose my precious Greencard and be deported?

I suppose, if you stone those of your neighbors who do not honor the Sabbath, things would even out.
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« Reply #149 on: February 05, 2004, 07:02:18 PM »

LOL Feb 16-20

And I also got offered a directing gig - which I accepted.....  

GREAT NEWS!  
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