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« Reply #30 on: February 28, 2004, 08:52:42 AM »

Wait! WAIT! I thought it was Bert Kaempfert. We've gotta look this up and have an informational shoot-out.

ROUND ONE:

According to Chris Lambert:

The '70s theme, along with a portion of the famous Think Music, is available on Varese Sarabande Records' "Classic TV Game Show Themes" CD, copyright 1997. Your local music store should be able to order it. The theme to the '60s version is Bert Kaempfert's "A Swingin' Safari", available on various discs, and is also included on "The Best of TV Quiz & Game Show Themes" - which is the follow-up to the earlier disc. The '83 and '90 shows' theme songs are available on The '80s TV Theme Supersite.

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« Reply #31 on: February 28, 2004, 08:56:49 AM »

While I was showering just now, A Question for the DRs popped into my head. (Ouch.) I know it's not Ask DRs Day, but it's the weekend so let's be wild and crazy and break the rules.
My question: If you could have one date with any famous person, alive or deceased, who would it be? Now I'm talking about a date, nothing sexual, got it? He or she would come to your home and pick you up (or vice versa), you would go to dinner, perhaps theater, a movie, whatever... then come back home and say good-night. A date. So... I'm curious...

What a great question!

Can I be a serial dater?  Off the top of my head, my evening escorts would include:

Bennet Cerf
Dorothy Parker
Montogomery Clift
Rock Hudson
Richard Gere (I can play the piano with my tuchus too, you know.)
Elaine Stritch
Frank Lloyd Wright
Stanford White (I look good in a velvet swing, too.)
Totie Fields
Leonard Bernstein
Cole Porter
Joseph Mankiewicz
George Cukor

Who knows?  Maybe something serious could come from at least one of these dates.
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« Reply #32 on: February 28, 2004, 08:59:31 AM »

The gentleman who wrote the Match Game Theme was Robert Israel who has also written the themes to The Family Feud, 20/20, The Price is Right, one of themes to All My Children etc etc

Not the original!

Israel wrote the theme for "Match Game 73".

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« Reply #33 on: February 28, 2004, 09:01:54 AM »

One thing that is completely unforgivable about CAMP:

In a film about a summer camp devoted to musical theater, there are practically no gay people - no gay teachers and no gay students.

 Of course, the SOLE gay guy that is depicted has a crush on the straight boy.  And sleeps with a female student in desperation. God forbid we should see two gay boys snogging or at least hanging out together.

What year is this, 1972?
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« Reply #34 on: February 28, 2004, 09:02:26 AM »

Turns out we're BOTH right. There were a number of different versions of Match Game through the years:

Theme 1 (NBC): "A Swingin' Safari"
[Legal title, as per BMI... aka: "Bailando En El Safari";

     Composer Kaempfert was a German-born orchestra leader
     who often used African Kwela music influences in his
     arrangements and compositions; this pop instrumental
     had been on worldwide pop charts ;

   Curiously, the version used on the air was not the
     Kaempfert original, but the one recorded by American
     Billy Vaughn and his Orchestra which had reached #13
     in 1962 on the American Top-40 charts]

     Composer: Bert Kaempfert (GEMA, affil. with BMI)
     Recordings:
           CD: TV Quiz and Game Show Themes (2000)
              [a production of "The Game Show Network"]
               Varèse Sarabande Records 302 066 159 2
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Theme 2 (CBS): "The Opening"
    Composer: Morrie ("M.") Krantz (BMI)

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Theme 3 (CBS and Syndicated): "Match Game Opening and Closing"
     Composer: Robert Arnold ("Bob") Israel (BMI)
              [Robert Israel is president of the New York
               music production company "Score Productions"]
    2001 Publishers: Togo Music (BMI)
                             Recordings:
           CD: TV Classic Game Show Themes (1998)
              [a production of "The Game Show Network"]
               Varèse Sarabande Records VSD-5881
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Theme 4: "The Match Game/Hollywood Squares Theme"
     Composer Kalehoff also worked for Score Productions at one
     point; so it's possible this THEME was written as a work
     for hire for Robert Israel's "Score Productions" and is
     the same as #3 above]
    Composer: Edward Woodley ("Edd") Kalehoff (BMI)
     

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« Reply #35 on: February 28, 2004, 09:06:48 AM »

My question: If you could have one date with any famous person, alive or deceased, who would it be? Now I'm talking about a date, nothing sexual, got it? He or she would come to your home and pick you up (or vice versa), you would go to dinner, perhaps theater, a movie, whatever... then come back home and say good-night. A date. So... I'm curious...

How about an evening for four; my guests:

Alexander Pope
T. S. Eliot
Noel Coward

der Brucer (and no Coward plays while Eliot sings songs from CATS jokes!)

If we have room, let's add Oscar Wilde
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« Reply #36 on: February 28, 2004, 09:09:21 AM »

I forgot to cite the URL for my Match Game info
http://www.classicthemes.com/50sTVThemes/themePages/matchGame.html
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« Reply #37 on: February 28, 2004, 09:11:53 AM »

I love your list, DR Jay! Could I come along on your date with Monty?
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« Reply #38 on: February 28, 2004, 09:13:24 AM »

Der Brucer - Quite an evening that would be!
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« Reply #39 on: February 28, 2004, 09:14:44 AM »

In today's Notes, BK avers:

But, since toom isn’t a word....

As much as I take the greatest glee in hestitate to correct you, Mr Webster says:

Main Entry: toom
Pronunciation: 'tüm
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English, from Old English tOm —more at TEEM
Date: before 12th century
chiefly Scottish : EMPTY

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« Reply #40 on: February 28, 2004, 09:19:47 AM »

I love your list, DR Jay! Could I come along on your date with Monty?

To quote the seagulls from Finding Nemo:  

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« Reply #41 on: February 28, 2004, 09:20:48 AM »

DR Jay - I once spent several days  in New York (doing research for a movie) with a fascinating elderly lady who, as a young lawyer, was hired by Harry K. Thaw, the murdered of your date Stanford White and the husband of your Girl on a Velver Swing (Evelyn Nesbit) to defend a young woman accused of murder. In the course of all this, Thaw fell in love with the lady lawyer, but she would not have him, no sir.
One day I'll write more about this encounter because it was truly fascinating. But I still haven't had breakfast!
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« Reply #42 on: February 28, 2004, 09:21:41 AM »

To quote the seagulls from Finding Nemo:  

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Selfish, selfish, selfish!
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« Reply #43 on: February 28, 2004, 09:32:09 AM »

Selfish, selfish, selfish!

Nah.  You can have at him when I'm done.

 ;)
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« Reply #44 on: February 28, 2004, 09:38:06 AM »

I'm off for a haircut now Dear Readers.  I want to be a kempt man, just like Dear BK.

After that, I will be heading to downtown L.A. to join an architectural walking tour, focusing on the use of terra cotta in many of the historic buildings to be found there.  That probably strikes many of you as incredibly boring, but hey, it strikes my fancy.  Besides which, it is a fabulously sunny and crisp day here in L.A., and there are worse things I could be doing than walking around in the outdoors for a few hours.

Have a great day, Dear Readers.  I'll check in when I return late this afternoon.
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« Reply #45 on: February 28, 2004, 09:38:54 AM »

Miscellaneous comments from yesterday:

TomOvRooland said:
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Thanks for using my favourite word "awry"!

As in: I bought three loaves of bread, one an Italian, one a French and one awry.

Danise was happy to state:

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My face seems to be where I notice it the most.

Between your ears, we trust. We would all be chagrined should you lose your face.

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...my Mom used to pack Ketchup and cheese for my lunch.  I HATED them.

The Ketchup  the cheese and Mom?

My school days brown bag was always a treat. Good old Pop also took a lunch, so Mom took great pains to please him (and me in the process). Liverwurst, tomato and onion on Rye -with mustard!  Salami and tomato on Whole (or cracked) Wheat with Mayo. (The tomato and a big Kosher Dill were separately wrapped in wax paper to keep the bread from getting soggy)! [Note: Tim Robbin's wife had not yet invented her now famous "Wrap".]

JMK reminisced:
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It also starred Garry Marshall and was replaced by "The Fying Nun".

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He (Copolla) then made some nudie films and his first real film although uncredited was The Terror with Boris Karloff. He was one of five directors, Roger Corman (credited director), Monte Hellman, Jack Hill and Jack Nicholson (who was also in it) were the other directors

I read this just after unpacking my latest grab from Wal Mart's 2fer11 DVD bin - Boris Karloff Classics: The Ape, The Ghoul, The Terror, Dick Tracy Meets Gruesome - sounds like a JRand/Mbarnum film fest.

To add to the aforementioned fest I also got "Cult Classics- Collection 1 : The Atomic Brain, The Brain That Would Not Die, Carnival of Souls and Night Tide.

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« Reply #46 on: February 28, 2004, 09:39:15 AM »

I was indeed referring to "A Swingin' Safari" by Bert Kaempfert.  That is the tune my lovely wife and I sang to the Rayburn lookalike (giving us even more to atone for :) ).  And of course we all know who wrote the "Jeopardy" theme.  Don't we?   ::)
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« Reply #47 on: February 28, 2004, 09:52:20 AM »

I'm off for a haircut now Dear Readers.
 
After that, I will be heading to downtown L.A. to join an architectural walking tour, focusing on the use of terra cotta in many of the historic buildings to be found there.  That probably strikes many of you as incredibly boring, but hey, it strikes my fancy.  

Just hope a tile doesn't fall; it might strike more than your "fancy" - and ruin the handiwork of your coiffeur/coiffeuse.

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« Reply #48 on: February 28, 2004, 09:54:55 AM »

And of course we all know who wrote the "Jeopardy" theme.  Don't we?   ::)

Of course, TCB's mentor.
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« Reply #49 on: February 28, 2004, 09:56:29 AM »

DR Michael Shayne, I remember the series Sirens! Did you work on it at the same time the John Terlesky was on it? If so would you mind telling me everything there is to know about the man (one of my few modern day favorite actors)!

Favorite reality shows:

1950s- You Bet Your Life and This is Your Life

1960s/70s - Candid Camera and this one show that was sort of like star search. It had a contestant and, I think, a celebrity reenact a scene from a classic movie. Whatever the show was it was a favorite of mine as a kid around 1974 or 1975.

1980s - I remember Real People, and I watched it, but don't recall if I really liked it or not.

1990s- Hmmmm...not much to choose from other then the first couple of seasons of Real World (San Francisco was my favorite season)

2000s- Big Brother, Survivor, (non-celebrity) The Mole, The Amazing Race.
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« Reply #50 on: February 28, 2004, 10:00:53 AM »

Der Brucer, you have some interesting film viewing in your future! LOL! You must report your thoughts as you watch each motion picture entertainment!

DR Panni - Hmmm...for a date, well, I would love to take the lovely Allison Hayes on a date. I imagine that she would be one very interesting person to chat with. Also, Lillian Gish (when she was in her 90s).

Jay, I actually think that walking tour would be quite fascinating. If I had known there was such a tour I would have gone on it during one of my visits to L.A. I love vintage architecture and walking around L.A. in the nice weather would be a great pleasure!

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« Reply #51 on: February 28, 2004, 10:39:33 AM »

Game Shows:  I confess I had an affection for "Treasure Hunt" with the great Jan Murray!

And I loved "The Gong Show" with that idiot host with the stupid hat.

and "The Newlywed Game" was tons of fun.

Reality shows:

Survivor
Big Brother
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« Reply #52 on: February 28, 2004, 10:50:30 AM »

Good Afternoon!

And I had a wonderful morning too!

I finally dragged myself out of bed around 9:00, and got myself ready to head up to school for Shirley Verrett's master class.  Boy am I glad I decided not to laze is bed this morning.  What a wonderful class!  When I walked in, they were showing some footage from a tele-bio about her which included some of her classic performances in/as Tosca.  Lots of goosebumps.

After being introduced, Ms. Verrett came out and proceeded to do what she was there to do.  They had five singers this morning - current and graduate students from VCU.  They sang, then she commented and coached.  Some very good general comments, and some illuminating fine points too.  All in all, a very educational and inspirational morning.

-And Ms. Verrett looked fabulous!  ;) At the end of the master class, members of the administration came out - including the president of the university - and conferred an Honorary Doctorate upon her.  Then a very nice reception.

-And now I'm home taking care of my usual daily internet stuff...  And it's a gorgeous day here in Richmond too!  -I'm hoping to go for a run in another hour or so.

So...

Reality shows:  Hmm... I do remember liking "Real People" a lot.  And I also remember my cousins and I always keeping an out for funny signs, billboards and newspaper ads so that we could send them in and hear our name on TV!  Oh, and I guess "That's Incredible" would also have to be included in this bunch.  "The Real World" - The first three seasons.

I come and go with "Survivor" - usually just catch the final two rounds of each location/season.  -Of course, I'm a die-hard Must-See TV viewer, so that has more to do with it than anything else.

Game shows: "The Price is Right" - A definite classic.  It is so weird/sad not hearing Rod Roddy's voice anymore. :(  "Match Game" - Of course, most of the jokes ended up going over my head at the time, but I did pick up something very "adult" in some of the answers - I just didn't know what it was.  "Joker's Wild" - Just remember watching this when I was growing up... Oh, as well as "Tic-Tac-Dough"... Oh, and, of course, "The Family Feud" with Richard Dawson.  And "Jeopardy" - which evolved into the one show that my whole would watch before/during/after dinner.

Ramble, ramble, ramble...
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« Reply #53 on: February 28, 2004, 10:54:33 AM »

 And of course we all know who wrote the "Jeopardy" theme.  Don't we?   ::)

I thought this might be of interest. Here's Merv, aka TCB's mentor, talking about the theme:

" That 'Jeopardy' theme is simply amazing," Griffin does allow. "I've written the shortest, most recognizable song. There was a list compiling the shortest songs: 'Happy Birthday to You' is 17 seconds. 'Jeopardy' is 14 seconds. So I rewrote it in another key, then added the 'bum-bump' to get it to 30 seconds, which was the amount of time contestants needed to write the question to the Final Jeopardy answer. Now, it's played at sporting events; I've played it with the Boston Pops in a huge arrangement. It's one of the most lucrative themes in history."
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« Reply #54 on: February 28, 2004, 10:59:41 AM »

I must add WHEEL OF FORTUNE to game shows - not because I love it, but because my daughter is amazingly good at it. She'll see two or three letters of the most obscure phrase or name and just calmly tell you the whole thing as if she were channeling it from some game show spirit in the sky. She maintains that if she could get on the show, she'd win her college tuition and I could stop shelling out. Sounds good to me.
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« Reply #55 on: February 28, 2004, 11:01:53 AM »

As bk is busy helping people in the Simi Valley make fools of themselves, I  feel someone should say - and I elect me... WHERE IN TARNATION IS EVERYONE?
You'd think it was the weekend or something.
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« Reply #56 on: February 28, 2004, 11:37:37 AM »

WHERE IN TARNATION IS EVERYONE?
You'd think it was the weekend or something.

I have an animal joke I could post.
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« Reply #57 on: February 28, 2004, 11:49:44 AM »

Robin Anderson & MBarnum-hope you are both feeling better today.

Ben thank you for your detailed post regarding the calendar, information I shall save.  I didn’t have a clue we can personally add or subtract information on it, making one more nice addition to this new format.

Jed thanks for answering Bruce’s question regarding Echo’s birthday.
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« Reply #58 on: February 28, 2004, 11:53:45 AM »

The Mole was far and away my favorite reality show.  It was a mental game, and focused on the competition, not the heightened-for-tv dramatics between people.  The celebrity versions leave me absolutely flat... everyone just always trying so hard to be mole-ish, and not really playing the game at all.  I do like The Amazing Race quite a bit (is it coming back?), and I must admit that Survivor has grown on me the past couple seasons.  I have been watching American Idol this season (hadn't watched any of the first two seasons), but my interest there is quickly waning.
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« Reply #59 on: February 28, 2004, 12:05:20 PM »

After that, I will be heading to downtown L.A. to join an architectural walking tour, focusing on the use of terra cotta in many of the historic buildings to be found there.  That probably strikes many of you as incredibly boring, but hey, it strikes my fancy.  Besides which, it is a fabulously sunny and crisp day here in L.A., and there are worse things I could be doing than walking around in the outdoors for a few hours.

It stikes me as interesting, if done on a beautiful day.
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