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« Reply #90 on: June 29, 2004, 02:34:31 PM »

It Should Happen to You is being remade with Kate Hudson. Kate Hudson the '04 Judy Holiday...
Is there anything that's NOT going to be remade??

Nope. ::) I think I remember reading that even "The Rocky Horror Picture Show" is going to be remade! :o
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« Reply #91 on: June 29, 2004, 02:36:54 PM »

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« Reply #92 on: June 29, 2004, 02:38:42 PM »

DRPANNI - I was about the say "Attack of the 50 Foot Woman" would never be remade....and then I remembered....IT WAS...for HBO with Miss Daryl Hannah in the title role.
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« Reply #93 on: June 29, 2004, 02:39:55 PM »

Yes, RLP, but these are specific songs that are supposed to be presented at  the time they were written by Porter at a specific time.  I am not trashing it, I am dismayed at the liberties they are taking, when they NEED NOT be to present the story they are claiming to present.

Porter probably wouldn't mind, that's true, but even Peter Bogdanavich was fairly faithful to notes and arrangements in his AT LONG LAST LOVE.

Not exactly true.  Porter's music is used on the soundtrack to counterpoint the events of his life as they are played out on the screen.  Songs that were written late in Porter's life are used here and there to accompany scenes that depict Porter before he wrote them.

This is definitely NOT an "and then he wrote..." biopic.  It may be helpful to think of Porter's oeuvre as a body of work from which the film makers drew to create appropriately dramatic scoring for the action on-screen.

As I said previously, the film is at its strongest when the songs are used as counterpoint for the dramatic action being depicted.  It stumbles when the characters on screen (especially when it's more than just Cole and Linda) suddenly break into song and dance.

At least we are spared "In the Still of the Night" being sung as a Christmas carol by preternaturally cute children in the snow.

And this Dear Reader holds the opinion (apparently none too popular in these parts) that Porter's music is perfectly ripe for "interpretation."  Think of the variety of treatments that a song like "Love for Sale" has had over the years, ranging from dark and slow to dance-rhythm bright.  I do believe that this film offers a noble attempt in the handling of the music.  Some folks won't like it and others will, perhaps including people who've never been exposed to this music before.  My suggestion is that people judge the film on its own merits, and the soundtrack in the context of the film.

(To be clear, I am not saying that De-Lovely is the greatest film ever made.  Trust me, it has ample flaws.  It does have its merits though, and, in my humble opinion, it is worth seeing.)
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« Reply #94 on: June 29, 2004, 02:45:31 PM »

Thanks DRJAY.  I am all for re-interpretation....no matter what some readers may I think I am saying.  

I am just saying that nothing gets old faster than the "brand new" and "now" sound of some instant star singers.  And trusting the material, especially when it is Porter, is not necessarily a bad thing to do.
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« Reply #95 on: June 29, 2004, 02:47:43 PM »

Hmm...

Since there are some teachers here on HHW...

Since there are some students here on HHW...

Since DR Jason is at home in Louisville right now...

Since I'm currently visiting my parents in Fairfax...

Here's a little something from today's Washington Post:

Mishap Forces Some in Fairfax to Retake SOL

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By Rosalind S. Helderman
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, June 29, 2004; Page B05


More than 270 students at Edison High School in Fairfax have learned that a UPS conveyor belt in Kentucky ate their Standards of Learning exams.

A box containing hundreds of completed answer sheets for the standardized state tests disappeared at a massive United Parcel Service sorting facility in Louisville this month. Some Edison students will have to retake tests over the summer or in the fall because of the shipping accident -- the second in two years for the school in the Alexandria section of Fairfax County. More than 90 students retook tests last fall because a box of answer sheets was accidentally delivered to a private residence.

>>>>>>>>>>>

Here's the link to the full article... It's kind of funny.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A13248-2004Jun28.html

-Also note, that the "Standards of Learning" tests are known as the "SOLs".  So, in essence, if you fail the SOL, you'll be SOL.  ;)
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« Reply #96 on: June 29, 2004, 02:52:43 PM »

Don't these schools make copies of these things????
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« Reply #97 on: June 29, 2004, 02:54:20 PM »


*And, DR JRand53 - It actually took me a few reads to get the inflection in "A doctor....child....it's a dream come true." ;)

Put this image in your mind:



and then think Molly Goldberg!
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« Reply #98 on: June 29, 2004, 02:54:36 PM »

I have never seen a bunny that wasn't a pet.

I feel so out of the fluffy-tailed-rodent loop :(
OZ has rabbits destroying the countryside. They are a pest. We have them in the garden and the dogs ignore them. All attempts to rid Australia of the rabbit population have met with failure. I don't eat them. I'm always worried I might be eating the Easter Rabbit.
We have foxes (also an imported pest) but their numbers are out of control too - they prefer chicken to rabbit it seems!
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« Reply #99 on: June 29, 2004, 03:08:06 PM »

I'm DELIRIOUS!


I'm DELECTABLE!


I'm DELICIOUS!


I'm DELIMIT!


I'm DELUXE!


I'm DELOVELY!

Thanks for your perspective, DR Jay.  And you won't get more grief from me, JRand53.  I find you openminded and ever-tolerant (and you don't LECTURE or PRONOUNCE), and I think we were approaching the issue differently, although I think there is a lot of talent out there that we do not normally associate with theater or movie music that can add vitality in both genres.

I've spent a bit of time looking up reviews and have gotten some rather positive spins from critics I respect.  When Ebert and Roeper agree on something, there's usually something very worthwhile going on.

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« Reply #100 on: June 29, 2004, 03:18:50 PM »

Off to rehearsal.

LOL...DerBrucer, exactly what I meant.
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« Reply #101 on: June 29, 2004, 03:22:54 PM »

I am returning from a heart-stopping work incident. I was writing away, my characters chatting amongst themselves as I listened. Decided to print out. Hit Print and everything DISAPPEARED. Got it all back - hit Print - same thing. Finally I called Final Draft and discovered I was to have downloaded a new version of their latest software because of this very glitch. (I deleted the letter containing this information without looking at it. Who needs to read another Final Draft Newsletter? Well, obviously I DO.) Anyway, all seems to be working now. And the Tech Support person with the lovely name of "Anna" was actually very clear and helpful.
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« Reply #102 on: June 29, 2004, 03:24:21 PM »

Put this image in your mind:



and then think Molly Goldberg!

Got it loud and clear...

Now I think I need to find another image to get that one out of my head! ;)
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« Reply #103 on: June 29, 2004, 03:27:19 PM »

DR Panni -  WHEW!  Is your heart-rate back down to normal now? ;)

I had a similar incident after spending hours working on some scores in a music notation program.  I never lost any of the work, but it did take a few work-arounds - and consultations - to fix the problem.  Oh, and there were a few moments of, "NOOOO!!  Stay away from the computer!!" ;)
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« Reply #104 on: June 29, 2004, 03:28:20 PM »

While I agree with both Jay & RLP that Porter's music is open to re-interpretation and I won't judge the film until I've seen it and heard the music, I also agree with MattH that forsaking the knowledgeable and true fans of Porter to try and scoop in the "younger crowd"or the "lowest common denominator" audience is always dangerous.  

If there is one thing I learned in the movie business (something David Selznick learned a long time ago) be true to classic material, trust the material, and go for your core audience first...Chances are if you spurn and alienate your core audience, you'll fail.  

I do have my doubts that just because Elvis Costello and Alanis Morisette (who may be true fans of the music...and even good interpretors) are singing Porter songs, the under thirty crowd will suddenly be flocking to the movie and snapping of CDs of the soundtrack.  But if it exposes more people to Porter's work...that can't necessarily be  bad either...

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« Reply #105 on: June 29, 2004, 03:28:40 PM »

Jose - I'm to have dinner tonight with a friend. We made the plans a week ago. She's a very efficient person, so I wasn't going to confirm, but decided to do it anyway. Good thing I did. She had us down for NEXT Tuesday. It's alll straightened out now and we're dining tonight. But if I had just gone to the restaurant to meet her, I would have been (from my POV) stood up. And pissed off. This long boring tale is simply related to say to you that perhaps your doctor date got something mixed up. Check before you write off the poor medic.  :P
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« Reply #106 on: June 29, 2004, 03:29:45 PM »

We have jackrabbits here. And their cousins, the jackalopes. We sometimes see a jackalope in the yard and we have to keep Joshie the kitten inside because the jackalope attacks him with his antlers.
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« Reply #107 on: June 29, 2004, 03:30:13 PM »

Well.. Since I was supposed to be out and about right now... And since I'm not out and about right now... I might as well head out and about right now...  There is 14-screen Multi-Plex just a 15 minute walk from here... Hmm...

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« Reply #108 on: June 29, 2004, 03:34:02 PM »

Is there anything that's NOT going to be remade??

Yes, my bed The Attack of the Killer Tomatoes

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« Reply #109 on: June 29, 2004, 03:46:41 PM »

Yes, I was going to point out that our very own Jay had given his thoughts on this film quites some weeks ago.  I also have no problem with different interpretations of songs, none at all.  I do have problems with certain "hip" singers, though.  But none of that is a hurdle for me - the hurdle is Irwin Winkler, the film's "director".  He's one of the world's worst, most lethargic and uninteresting directors and I've hated every film he's put his name on as director (I've liked some of his producer efforts).
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« Reply #110 on: June 29, 2004, 03:47:58 PM »

Got it loud and clear...

Now I think I need to find another image to get that one out of my head! ;)

One of these should do the trick!





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« Reply #111 on: June 29, 2004, 03:48:33 PM »

I MARRIED A MONSTER FROM OUTER SPACE was even remade a couple of years ago....called I MARRIED A MONSTER..it was pretty good, too.

I am not adverse to remakes. Some of my favorite movies are remakes...IMITATION OF LIFE, ALICE IN WONDERLAND, DANTE'S INFERNO, THE TEN COMMANDMENTS...
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« Reply #112 on: June 29, 2004, 04:07:14 PM »

One of these should do the trick!





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Thank you! ;D
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« Reply #113 on: June 29, 2004, 04:19:04 PM »

More on re-interpreting music.  If a musical film is depicting a specific time such as the thirties, forties, or fifties...I think the style and arrangement of the music should reflect those eras.  I would, for instance,  find it quite jarring and iritating to hear modern-day rock vibratos and American Idol runs and key changes laced into Mr. Porter's music in the current movie.  Don't take me out of the story by betraying its time frame.
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« Reply #114 on: June 29, 2004, 04:32:27 PM »

Jennifer: Tonight it's grilled porkchops with broccoli casserole and leftover potatoes from last night. YUM!
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« Reply #115 on: June 29, 2004, 04:35:06 PM »

Well, I'm not exactly looking forward to seeing De-Lovely, but I'm willing to give it a chance.  But in all honesty, of all the musicians in the trailer, the only one I'm more than passingly familiar with is Elvis Costello.  
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« Reply #116 on: June 29, 2004, 04:35:22 PM »

OZ has rabbits destroying the countryside. They are a pest. We have them in the garden and the dogs ignore them. All attempts to rid Australia of the rabbit population have met with failure. I don't eat them. I'm always worried I might be eating the Easter Rabbit.
We have foxes (also an imported pest) but their numbers are out of control too - they prefer chicken to rabbit it seems!

Well..according to this web site Chicken Little of Oz you have grave problems with:

Rabbits
Foxes
Wild Pigs (“bore”)
Goats
House Cats
Myna Birds
Carp and Rainbow Trout
Cane Toads

(and as if life wasn't tough enough, killing the rabbits reduced the food supply for the foxes, endangering other mammals)

Reviewing this web site suggests that N.S.W stands for New Scared Wales - this guy really thinks the sky is falling (actually it was MIR falling that was going to infect all of OZ with microbes).

I did, however, learn the following:

Results of research confirm gravity as a new travel medium with a new speed for gravity, the final analysis of research shows gravity can be over a thousand times faster than the speed of light.

This will also explain how extraterrestrials might exploit travel within the known universe with the ability to suddenly vanish from radar screens and eye witness accounts of extremely fast, impossible maneuvers


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« Reply #117 on: June 29, 2004, 04:38:16 PM »

I MARRIED A MONSTER FROM OUTER SPACE was even remade a couple of years ago....called I MARRIED A MONSTER..it was pretty good, too.


Maybe we'll get a new version with Liza!
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« Reply #118 on: June 29, 2004, 04:39:53 PM »

Has anyone here on HHW ever seen the movie Cane Toads: An Unnatural History?  Truly, one of the funniest, and strangest true stories I've ever seen...and when I first saw it, I thought it was all some kind of elaborate hoax.  Uh-uh.  
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« Reply #119 on: June 29, 2004, 04:48:18 PM »

Has anyone here on HHW ever seen the movie Cane Toads: An Unnatural History?  Truly, one of the funniest, and strangest true stories I've ever seen...and when I first saw it, I thought it was all some kind of elaborate hoax.  Uh-uh.  

Cane-Toad Hysteria from Oz:

Cane Toads are the terror from the lily pond.

The Cane Toad has now made it to Port Macquarrie and is headed to Sydney, by the time the Olympics happen the swimmers may have to duck the toads in the Olympic Aquatic Pool.

What is needed obviously is a cane toad roundup in Queensland and also Northern N.S.W.

A bounty could be put on their heads for the toad roundup, baging them up by number or weight to send them to that great toad god in heavens pond.

Collectors would have to cover up with gloves because these toads are poisonous and excrete a white poison from glands near their head, gloves will stop you putting your fingers on your mouth.

The list of animal casualties by these poison pots is :

Dogs
Cats

Australian Fauna
birds including
Magpies
Crows
Currawongs
Native Frogs
Birds of prey

Reptiles
Goannas
Snakes
Crocodiles

If anyone can supply further names of our native fauna killed by theses toads please E-Mail the webmaster.
These toads eat our native frogs and tadpoles and small fish and insects.  

News -April 2000

The Cane Toad is on the verge of Kakadoo National Park a World Heritage Park
and will cause massive damage to wildlife as reported on the Television News.

Funding for reasearch work has been cut back by the present Federal Liberal Government.

News
It seems there has been a deliberate process of keeping the public in the dark about the spread of this pest into N.S.W.

Telegraph 22nd May, 2000 page 15
Invading cane toads spread across Sydney

The article states that permanent colonies of this pest are expected to become established in suburbs all over Sydney.

Suburbs where the toad has been found below:

Bicentenial Park - Homebush Bay
Brooklyn
Dural
Flemington Markets - imports from Queensland (fruit).
Kenthurst
Miranda
Mt. Annan near Campbelltown
Richmond
Sydney
Warringah Mall

All our drinking water supplies could be infested like Woronora Dam, Lake Burragorang / Warragamba Dam, no one has stated what effect this would have on our drinking water.

Don't forget large water storages could sustain millions of toads, they live in water.

Imagine - On all highways, driving over toads in Sydney, when you drive over one, they go pop - highway pizza, road kill, everywhere you go. What sort of impression are we going to give tourists?  

The article states there is no government funding for cane toad research at present and once they are established that will be it, we will not be able to do anything! The cane toad can produce 30,000 eggs/tadpoles at a time.

States that toads may be crossing the border from Queensland in landscaping supplies but people may be bringing them in also as this article mentions one that turned up from Fiji in a backpack.

Anyone remember the quarantine inspections on the Queensland border years ago, inspectors checked for fruit at this checkpoint to stop the fruit fly, somehow the bean counters have not added up the costs for the cane toad yet.

The National Parks and Wildlife are concerned that people might mistake our native toads and frogs for cane toads.

Cane toads now in Kakadu National Park
The Dialy Telegraph 14th of March 2001 page 4.

Several toads were found by rangers in the park on the eastern border about 30 km upstream.
This intrusion may affect the World Heritage status of the park as the bio-diversity will change.

This world famus park needs complete protection for the thousands of species that live there.

The international community needs to send a damming message to Australia's Environment Minister Senator Robert Hill via E-Mail or snail mail.

Help save Kakadu National Park.

Special Report - ABC 7.30 Report, 3rd of April 2001
Cane Toads in Kakadu National Park

Native Frogs

Eastern banjo frog
Striped marsh frog

Often people club the wrong ones ! ! ! !
If your not shure, what you have found, ring the Frog and Tadpole Study Group via your local National Parks and Wildlife service office in your area, check the phone book and ask them if they can put up a web page for reporting any sightings and show pictures of our native species and dirty big ugly pictures of the cane toad, yuck, its ugly.


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