I also talked to the folks doing the work, and they've already begun "cleaning" everything on the site - whatever is causing the virus warnings to pop up (we don't have any viruses, BTW) - it's some malfunction and so they're just methodically cleaning every aspect of the site and the board before they actually update the software for both to the latest version - we're about five versions behind on both site and board. Once that's happened (probably in the next day or two) then I'll be able to go in to the mirror site, nose around, see what's new and exciting and different and how everything will work - and then Doug can start the actual redesign of the site itself. Meanwhile, I'm probably going to ask for two volunteer dear readers to go to the mirror site and make sure that when they log onto the updated board that everything works - passwords, avatars, all of it.