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Re:FASTER THAN A SPEEDING BULLET
« Reply #90 on: November 06, 2004, 02:43:05 PM »

Maybe my indifference to La Cage is that I have never really understood the whole gay fascination for drag and drag queens.  I've never seen much talent displayed in dressing up as a woman and lip-synching to records.  

For that matter, I have never understood the whole cross-dressing drag thing as entertainment from a heterosexual point-of-view either.  The British seem to go wild for it.  But for the rare exception of plays like Charley's Aunt or rather brilliant impressionists like Charles Pierce, I've always found it  a crushing bore and mostly not funny.  Dame Edna gets old with me real fast.  And I can think of nothing more dreary than the idea of going to see Jim Bailey do Judy Garland or Barbara Streisand.  (Of course, while I never disliked Judy, I've never understood the whole cult around her anyway.  Other than her on a couple of soundtracks, I own no Judy Garland albums.  Streisand, while a good singer, got more interested in showing off her instrument rather than serving the song  which is something I find utterly tedious in a singer and I own no Streisand albums either.  My wife may have one or two early ones.  Neither of them can hold a candle to Rosemary Clooney or Ella).
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« Reply #91 on: November 06, 2004, 02:47:06 PM »

Tonight I am going to theater, to see When Pigs Fly. If they can make helicopters fly on stage why not pigs?

When Pigs Fly.... I will, because I'm such a pig!! ;D
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Re:FASTER THAN A SPEEDING BULLET
« Reply #92 on: November 06, 2004, 02:52:50 PM »

Noel wrote: "Older folk sometimes tell me that when I get closer to the age of Ben, Buddy, Sally and Phyllis, I'll have an easier time empathizing with them.  If middle-age is anything like what's portrayed in Follies, shoot me now!"

As one of those older folk, I was about to tell you the same thing, but I saw the show as a 22 year old and was spellbound. I don't know about the adults in your life, but both my parents had expressed regrets about roads taken and not taken while I was growing up. I used to ask them about their choices all the time. FOLLIES vibrates with that longing and angst (and reminded me in many ways about my parents' wishes and regrets), but that doesn't mean all older folks are filled with nothing but regret. In fact, people like Hattie and Carlotta seem to have enjoyed every moment of their lives, hard and frustrating as they might have been.

I've never seen a more dazzling musical that worked on so many levels, that stirred up SO many emotions, and left me with something to think about as I walked out of the Winter Garden as FOLLIES did. I don't suspect there will ever be another musical in my lifetime that will mean more to me.
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« Reply #93 on: November 06, 2004, 02:57:17 PM »

Mr Pogue,
I don't have a clue why, and that must be a cultural difference between the US and the Old Europe, but people here LOVE to see men in drag; SOME LIKE IT HOT was turned into a stage musical in the sixties as La Polka Des Lampions, and was quite a success!

I don't think the success of La Cage relies on the drag queen element!

The message is that people with a different sex orientation are people too, with feelings and a heart, and the production I saw was terribly moving on that level. At the end, one realized that one was watching two people in love and could not care less if they were of the same gender!

If La Cage had a message, that's the one I got, and I'm not even sure if the French play was heading the same way; it was really making fun of gay people in a very heterosexual way.... Like most of the TV shows nowadays, matter of fact! "
We "accept" them because they're funny but they are weird and, thank God, I'm straigth".
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« Reply #94 on: November 06, 2004, 02:58:39 PM »

And I'd bet that had I seen the original production of Oklahoma, with its original cast, and in the context of its time, I, too, would be touting that as brilliant.  
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« Reply #95 on: November 06, 2004, 02:58:42 PM »

Charles Pogue said:

"Dame Edna gets old with me real fast."

Wow, I never mentioned it before because I thought I was the only one here who felt that way.
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« Reply #96 on: November 06, 2004, 03:25:19 PM »

Charles Pogue said:

"Dame Edna gets old with me real fast."

Wow, I never mentioned it before because I thought I was the only one here who felt that way.

No, Ben you are not alone!

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Stephen Sondheim! ;)

May I venture that RLP and Tomovoz would not agree with you!

Me, I never saw Dame Edna, but.... she can't be that... old! :D
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« Reply #97 on: November 06, 2004, 03:27:53 PM »

Now, what if... we were to combine La Cage and Follies!!

Hmmmmm....
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« Reply #98 on: November 06, 2004, 03:28:56 PM »

And I'd bet that had I seen the original production of Oklahoma, with its original cast, and in the context of its time, I, too, would be touting that as brilliant.  

I was damned close to calling OKLAHOMA! over-rated, after all, SHOW BOAT was earlier and successfully combined song and story with character.
I have only seen one production of OKLAHOMA! which I might call memorable, the first one I saw which featured Judy Knaiz (as in film's HELLO, DOLLY!) as Ado Annie.
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« Reply #99 on: November 06, 2004, 03:42:54 PM »

Good Afternoon!

Back at the hotel between shows... Just cooked dinner: Szechaun Chicken with Broccoli.  Tasty!  *I'm finally cooking some of the food I bought three and/or four weeks ago when I got here, so..  -At least I'm "saving" some money this final weekend by not eating out. ;)

Alas...

Eric, our Richie, ended up having a torn muscle in his leg, so he's out for the final shows.  And since his understudy is also out, the other swing went on.  Parker is doing a great job, and we all wish Eric a speedy and complete recovery.  -He'll be flying back tomorrow morning so that he can see his doctor back home in NYC first thing Monday morning.  -Oh, and Parker came in today at 10:00 and learned his new track.  Go!  *But it is quite interesting having a white Richie... "... and I'm white!"  -No, we didn't change that line in the "roll call".  :P

Thanks for the between show reading...  Great choices (good and over-rated) and great discussion.

OK - I need to wash some dishes and get some stuff together before tonight's show.  And after tonight's show, there's a reception being held for us at the Shell Oil headquarters. <puff-puff>  -So I might not be back until "tomorrow"...

Laters...
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« Reply #100 on: November 06, 2004, 03:43:43 PM »


I do have a question.  Forgive the ignorance but if I don’t ask I’ll never learn.  For my Jewish friends here on the board, is it ok to send you a Christmas card or would that offend you?  I bought some (C)hanuka (is that with a C or a H I see it both ways) cards but if I slip up and send you the wrong kind of card, will you be ok with it?
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Danise thank you for asking.  I have found different people have varied reactions to your question.

You may send me either since I celebrate both.  I send a holiday card unless, as it is this year, Chanukah is early.  Then I send two sets of cards.  There are certain people I only send Chanukah cards to but most of my Jewish friends and family receive the generic.  It does bother me to receive a Chanukah card for Christmas when Chanukah has come and gone.

I noticed the first night of Chanukah is my birthday.  So you can send me three cards this year. ;)
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« Reply #101 on: November 06, 2004, 03:48:45 PM »

We survived the first week of our project.  The workers are gone for the weekend and the house has been dusted and cleaned and my hair washed.  Now my throat doesn’t hurt anymore.   :D
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« Reply #102 on: November 06, 2004, 03:54:19 PM »

Oh well....it's just that I liked ICE STATION ZEBRA....no need for celebration at HHW.  Really....really.

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« Reply #103 on: November 06, 2004, 04:00:34 PM »

Francois, I got the theme of La Cage okay.

But I have never understand why gay men who are attracted to men delight in seeing them dressed as women.  Just don't get it.

But then I don't get the European delight, regardless of sexual preference, for drag comedy either...Truthfully, I've never been as big a fan of Some Like It Hot as others are...and I'm a huge Billy Wilder fan.  Anytime I see a film or play touted with gender role switching...either men or women dressing as the opposite sex... I mostly just don't care.
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« Reply #104 on: November 06, 2004, 04:01:23 PM »

Does MOVIN OUT count?

WICKED
FIDDLER ON THE ROOF
THE MUSIC MAN
SECRET GARDEN

This list looks too small, but then I am only mentioning my favorites from live performances.  I'm sure I'm missing something but I'm super tired.
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« Reply #105 on: November 06, 2004, 04:04:15 PM »

We survived the first week of our project.  The workers are gone for the weekend and the house has been dusted and cleaned and my hair washed.  Now my throat doesn’t hurt anymore.   :D

So,

You Had To Wash That Dust Right Out Of Your Hair?? :D
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« Reply #106 on: November 06, 2004, 04:08:47 PM »

Oh, my personnally autographed Asturd Gilberto CD of her album The Shadow on Your Smile just arrived! I am very happy and am listening to it right now! Thank you BK for letting me know about this! Hurray...it is a beautiful CD!

"To Michael, affectionately Astrud Gilberto
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« Reply #107 on: November 06, 2004, 04:10:50 PM »

Francois, I got the theme of La Cage okay.

But I have never understand why gay men who are attracted to men delight in seeing them dressed as women.  Just don't get it.


I don't know either!
My guess is that a lot of gay men would like to be .... women in some way! They like the grotesque side of it too...

What I understand is that your not understand that makes you not liking shows based on cross-dressing! Right?

But that's ok! I know a few good shrinks who can help you! ;)
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« Reply #108 on: November 06, 2004, 04:30:42 PM »

Re: sending Jewish people X-mas cards

I think it might depend how religious they are.  I know I wouldn't be offended.  But most people I know would probably send a generic holiday/Season's Greetings card vs something that says "Merry Christmas" on it.
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« Reply #109 on: November 06, 2004, 04:37:16 PM »

DR Jane, thanks for letting me know that Chanukah is earlier this year.  I actually hate it when it turns out this way.  I find it really hard since many of my family members celebrate Christmas.

Oh, I feel crappy!  I just slept for 1 1/2 hours.   And I could easily fall asleep for the night for night I think.

Btw, I have another musical that I love: Jane Eyre!
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« Reply #110 on: November 06, 2004, 04:46:37 PM »

Glad you're enjoying the Astrud album - a total beauty.  I am going to my beloved Musso and Frank this very evening with our very own Pogue and his very own Julieanne.  I'm so hungry, I can't wait.
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« Reply #111 on: November 06, 2004, 05:43:34 PM »

No, no, no, we don't let one hour go by, do we?  You'd think this was a Saturday night or something.  Let us play, let us romp, let us have lettuce, let them eat fish, let the games begin.
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« Reply #112 on: November 06, 2004, 05:49:00 PM »

I don't have much to report, except that I hurt my thumb fencing Thursday night. I kept on fencing after that, which probably wasn't the best idea. I was hoping it would get all swollen and purple, but it didn't.

Wasn't that a great story?
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« Reply #113 on: November 06, 2004, 05:50:22 PM »

Has anyone bought The Invisible Man the Legacy Collection yet?  I didn't even see The Invisible Man on DVD yet!
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« Reply #114 on: November 06, 2004, 06:10:10 PM »

I did not buy the Invisible Man set. I thought about it, but didn't. It would be fun to see THE INVISIBLE WOMAN again.

On the other hand I should be getting the W.C. Fields set and the Marx Bros. set...which hasn't shipped yet :(
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« Reply #115 on: November 06, 2004, 06:11:13 PM »

I'll ditto what many DR's say are their fave live musicals. Guys and Dolls is a fave of mine, and Sweeney, of course. And I have to add The Producers - gosh, I laughed and smiled and hummed and cheered... I totally LOVED it. One of the Fun-est evenings I've ever spent. The whole thing, every aspect of it - and I saw it without the original cast. Didn't matter to me. GREAT, every minute!!! I think Damn Yankees is a swell show! I love 1776 - even if it's not per se A Musical, but rather an historical drama with music. Still love it. I think Phantom is overrated...
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« Reply #116 on: November 06, 2004, 06:12:40 PM »

And so, Good Night!
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« Reply #117 on: November 06, 2004, 06:27:22 PM »

I think I got the Invisible Man collection on DVD, but the problem is it's invisible and I can't find it.  Damn them, damn them all to hell.  These Saturday night gadabouts (of which I'm about to be one) better get their butt cheeks in here when they return from gadabouting.
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« Reply #118 on: November 06, 2004, 06:37:00 PM »

I am not gadabouting...I am here...but I am all alone it would seem!  :-\
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« Reply #119 on: November 06, 2004, 06:38:55 PM »

Tomorrow I shall get letters out to three more cast members of WILD WOMEN OF WONGO whom I have just managed to locate, so as to interview them for my big WILD WOMEN OF WONGO article that I have been working on for a couple of years now. These people arent' easy to find (it is one of those independed made on location in Florida type movies from the 50s).

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