Speaking of TP, I'm trying out TP made from bamboo, no trees at all. I love the concept. Bamboo is so prolific, it grows like a weed and it difficult to get rid of. Plus, even when conventional TP is sold out, the bamboo variety is often still available. That alone is a reason to try it. So far so good. Not as soft as what I usually choose, but not bad at all. Definitely an acceptable substitute.