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Re:THE PRISONER OF SECOND AVENUE
« Reply #90 on: May 25, 2004, 01:31:33 PM »

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« Reply #91 on: May 25, 2004, 01:31:50 PM »

My favorite Jerry Lewis (and Dean Martin) picture is Artists and Models.  Shirley Maclaine is darlingly darling in it, too.

My favorite Jerry Herman song is "I Don't Want to Know" from Dear World, followed by "And I Was Beautiful" from the same show.  I've never seen Dear World on stage, and I'd really like to.  

My favorite Jerry Goldsmith score is Chinatown...followed very closely by Star Trek: The Motion Picture.  Yeah, yeah, yeah...I know Jerry Goldsmith wasn't included in the Jerrython, but the Jerryness of it all was inspiring me to Jerrymander the Jerrylist.  (I think I have more Jerry Goldsmith music in my CD collection than any other composer/artist.)
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« Reply #92 on: May 25, 2004, 01:31:53 PM »

...and here I am, a God once more!
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« Reply #93 on: May 25, 2004, 01:34:14 PM »

(Insert Page Four Dance here.)
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« Reply #94 on: May 25, 2004, 01:39:28 PM »

Hmmmm....that might be an interesting sound if you did!

I think the recording is a miracle, though....so spacious and all the parts beautifully balanced.

Every time I hear "The Tea Party," I then have to haul out "A Little Night Music" and revel in "Now, Soon, Later."

And "vice-a versa!!!"

I LOVE songs that do this, when songs have more than one part sung at the same time.  I think someone used the term "quodlibet."  I've put together 13 compilation CDs of songs like this (13 so far...I'm already collecting songs for my 14th)!
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« Reply #95 on: May 25, 2004, 01:40:11 PM »

Congratulations HHW GOD RLP reDux!
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« Reply #96 on: May 25, 2004, 01:42:13 PM »

Hello all1

I would have posted sooner but I got up early to take the tour of NYC and it took longer than I thought.

I can't say enough about how nice it was to meet Elmore and how much I enjoyed the dinner.  I was so stressed and frazzled but after dinner I felt so calm.

You are a prince among men, Elmore.  I thank you from the bottom of heart for taking time from your busy schedule to give someone who was so overwhelmed a chance to catch her breath and have have someone to talk to.  I said it last night and I'll say it again.  You are the highlight of this whole trip.

You and DR Jane who I just got off the phone with (again!).  I can't believe that someone would call me long distance just to check on how I'm feeling/doing.  

I have never had a big family/brothers or sisters so it really brings tears to my eyes and a full heart to be so well thought of.

Believe it or not I went out shortly afterwards and walked down Broadway, stopped at the Toys R Us store and rode the feris wheel (sp?) and even bought myself a stuffed black lab who reminded me of Bear.

Going to see Wonderful Town tonight.  I hope to go see a show tomorrow afternoon and I have a ticket for Wicked, Thursday I meet with another friend and we go to see Boyz from OZ then Friday, go home.

It was the time spent with friends that made this trip something I will never forget.

Talk with you all again soon.
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Re:THE PRISONER OF SECOND AVENUE
« Reply #97 on: May 25, 2004, 01:48:28 PM »

...and here I am, a God once more!

Be careful, or you'll turn into one of those folk who see the Virgin Mary in oil slicks and raisin cookies!
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« Reply #98 on: May 25, 2004, 01:57:09 PM »

You are a prince among men, Elmore.  I thank you from the bottom of heart for taking time from your busy schedule to give someone who was so overwhelmed a chance to catch her breath and have have someone to talk to.  I said it last night and I'll say it again.  You are the highlight of this whole trip.

You and DR Jane who I just got off the phone with (again!).  I can't believe that someone would call me long distance just to check on how I'm feeling/doing.  


DRDanise,  I blush at your generous assessment of my character and thank you for your kind words.  I'm sure I have both critics and friends who would disagree with you.  We are in agreement that DRJane is one of nature's wonders and the salt of the earth.

I should be thanking you for a wonderful break from a tedious job.  I hope the rest of your visit goes swimmingly, that each show and sight you see fills you with joy and amusement, and that you return safely.
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« Reply #99 on: May 25, 2004, 01:59:52 PM »

...and here I am, a God once more!

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Re:THE PRISONER OF SECOND AVENUE
« Reply #100 on: May 25, 2004, 02:13:40 PM »

Robin, my favourite Goldsmith score is either Legend or Wind & The Lion.
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« Reply #101 on: May 25, 2004, 02:14:19 PM »

DANISE - enjoy enjoy enjoy!!!!
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Re:THE PRISONER OF SECOND AVENUE
« Reply #102 on: May 25, 2004, 02:15:19 PM »

DR BEEKAY, I think that Mack & Mabel is one of those B'way failures that really does deserve a second chance.  I've loved it ever since my senior year high school class performed it.  I disagree with the experts like Mandlebaum who say that the book and/or subject matter is unworkable--I think it's a pretty solid book. And the score is one of the best around!  

If it were revived, I would hope that they would cast someone a little off-kilter as Mabel instead of going for the obvious.  The role calls for a good physical commedianne and not just someone who can belt out the songs.  Anyone have any ideas?

Caroline o'Connor was brilliant. London and here in Melbourne.
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Re:THE PRISONER OF SECOND AVENUE
« Reply #103 on: May 25, 2004, 02:16:32 PM »

DR CharlesPogue - I remember sitting in the theatre watching THE WIND AND LION and thinking it was one of the most exciting movies EVER.  A wonderful cast, lovely photography, an interesting story....and MUSIC!  

I wish I could see it at the theatre again....it's okay on TV....but in a theatre....it was a movie MOVIE!!!!  I was a bit surprised that Brian Keith didn't get an Oscar nomination for Best Supporting Actor....or did he?
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Re:THE PRISONER OF SECOND AVENUE
« Reply #104 on: May 25, 2004, 02:16:33 PM »

CONGRATULATIONS MAYA!  You are a great addition to the clouds.  


Aww, thanks, Jane, you're so sweet!

I hate Times Square.  I've been known to shout at people.  "Hey, it's called a sideWALK, not a sideSTAND"

Usually, I'm pretty courteous...but Times Square is the one place in the world where I feel no compunction pushing people out of my way.

I'm not a huge Herman fan either, but I do love the scores of "Mame" and "Mack and Mabel."

Some favorites--

If He Walked Into My Life
Bosom Buddies
It's Today
I Won't Send Roses
Time Heals Everything
Wherever He Ain't
Look What Happened to Mabel
I've Never Said I Love You
I Don't Want to Know
Kiss Her Now
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Re:THE PRISONER OF SECOND AVENUE
« Reply #105 on: May 25, 2004, 02:43:47 PM »

I LOVE songs that do this, when songs have more than one part sung at the same time.  I think someone used the term "quodlibet."  I've put together 13 compilation CDs of songs like this (13 so far...I'm already collecting songs for my 14th)!

Wow!  As a great fan of quodlibet, I'm envious of such a collection!  Hmm... perhaps I should start going through my collection and pulling tracks... :)
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Re:THE PRISONER OF SECOND AVENUE
« Reply #106 on: May 25, 2004, 02:44:28 PM »

I agree with you, Ben about A DAY IN HOLLYWOOD/A NIGHT IN THE UKRAINE. It's a brilliant yet unheralded revue (if you have the multi-talented cast to pull off its effects in both acts; it's a painful long night if you don't), and Jerry Herman's three numbers are precious.
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« Reply #107 on: May 25, 2004, 02:48:24 PM »

Wow!  As a great fan of quodlibet, I'm envious of such a collection!  Hmm... perhaps I should start going through my collection and pulling tracks... :)

If you're interested, I could send you my Word file of all the discs.  I didn't, however, write which shows or CDs they came from, just the song title and artist(s)...or do you have a Mac?  If you do, a Word file probably wouldn't work, would it?  Or can it be converted? (almost a Starlight Express reference)
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« Reply #108 on: May 25, 2004, 02:54:30 PM »

DR Jrand wrote: "DR CPOGUE it could have happened.  In addition to the 2-Hour Jerry Lewis Train Wreck, I recall an hour show on Tuesday or Thursday evening sometime afterwards where one of his characters was Ralph Rotten, a crippled mad scientist...and it made me laugh."

Yes, Jerry Lewis' first variety show (I thought it was 90 minutes) was one of THE bombs of all time. Horrendously low ratings and was pulled off the air relatively quickly, I think, which was unusual back in those days.

His Tuesday night NBC variety hour ran two seasons which was a little better for his ego. I read somewhere that the ABC fiasco left him close to suicide.

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« Reply #109 on: May 25, 2004, 02:55:11 PM »

I LOVE songs that do this, when songs have more than one part sung at the same time.  I think someone used the term "quodlibet."  I've put together 13 compilation CDs of songs like this (13 so far...I'm already collecting songs for my 14th)!

DR George, do you know "A More Than Ordinary Glorious Vocabulary" from the Off-Broadway ALL IN LOVE by Jack Urbont?  It's a second-rate score with 2 or 3 first-rate items like the quodlibet I just asked if you knew.  I'd like that on CD.  I believe that Jonathan Tunick once told me some of the recording charts are his.
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« Reply #110 on: May 25, 2004, 02:57:53 PM »

DR CharlesPogue - I remember sitting in the theatre watching THE WIND AND LION and thinking it was one of the most exciting movies EVER.  A wonderful cast, lovely photography, an interesting story....and MUSIC!  

I wish I could see it at the theatre again....it's okay on TV....but in a theatre....it was a movie MOVIE!!!!  I was a bit surprised that Brian Keith didn't get an Oscar nomination for Best Supporting Actor....or did he?

No, Brian Keith didn't get an Oscar nomination for it, but I rememeber many people being shocked that he didn't. The DVD is supposed to look VERY good, but I don't have it. To be honest, I've never made it all the way through the film. Never saw it at the theater, and haven't lasted through TV renditions, but I'd be more than willing to give it another chance.
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« Reply #111 on: May 25, 2004, 02:59:47 PM »

Wow!  As a great fan of quodlibet, I'm envious of such a collection!  Hmm... perhaps I should start going through my collection and pulling tracks... :)

I just realized I wrote a quodlibet for a production of WINNIE THE POOH in 1972.   Pooh sang "It's very very funny but I thought I had some honey" in 2/4,  Piglet sang "Cottleston Pie" in 3/4 and then the two songs went together.  I wonder where that score is these days?  This might be the start of a Guy Haines album!
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« Reply #112 on: May 25, 2004, 02:59:55 PM »

Of course, DRMATTH, it was not a train wreck compared to Jimmy Durante presents The Lennon Sisters which I think Jerry replaced on ABC or vice versa in the Saturday night ABC Graveyard of the early 1960's!

Wait for WATL at a revival theatre, MATTH....it isn't nearly the same on TV....not as bad as what TV does to EL CID...but close.

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« Reply #113 on: May 25, 2004, 03:01:15 PM »

COngratulations to new god DR Dan and to our first repeat deity, DR RLP.

And I'm happy to say the A/C has finally been fixed, and I now am typing in relative comfort and a definite lack of humidity.
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« Reply #114 on: May 25, 2004, 03:04:05 PM »

DR MATTH - it's always nice to be comfortable!  ;D


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« Reply #115 on: May 25, 2004, 03:07:19 PM »

DR JRand wrote: "Of course, DRMATTH, it was not a train wreck compared to Jimmy Durante presents The Lennon Sisters which I think Jerry replaced on ABC or vice versa in the Saturday night ABC Graveyard of the early 1960's!"

Yep, it was bad, and Pearl Bailey's variety show didn't last but half a season either. Except for THE HOLLYWOOD PALACE (which ran four years) and LAWRENCE WELK, ABC didn't have much luck with variety shows in the 1960s and afterwards.

I suspect Julie Andrews' brilliant hour wouldn't have made it a full season if she hadn't had an ironclad contract for two seasons. (The second season reverted to a series of specials, but she still got paid for a full year of shows - good for her!)

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« Reply #116 on: May 25, 2004, 03:15:41 PM »

DR George, do you know "A More Than Ordinary Glorious Vocabulary" from the Off-Broadway ALL IN LOVE by Jack Urbont?  It's a second-rate score with 2 or 3 first-rate items like the quodlibet I just asked if you knew.  I'd like that on CD.  I believe that Jonathan Tunick once told me some of the recording charts are his.

I've never heard of this!  Like I wrote earlier, I'm compiling my 14th disc so any suggestions are most appreciated!  Not that I'll be able to get everything ::), but it's nice to have the suggestions.
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« Reply #117 on: May 25, 2004, 03:19:01 PM »

I just realized I wrote a quodlibet for a production of WINNIE THE POOH in 1972.   Pooh sang "It's very very funny but I thought I had some honey" in 2/4,  Piglet sang "Cottleston Pie" in 3/4 and then the two songs went together.  I wonder where that score is these days?  This might be the start of a Guy Haines album!

If he's interested, I'd be more than willing to send BK (Guy's very own inimitable producer) my list for suggestions!
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« Reply #118 on: May 25, 2004, 03:25:20 PM »

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« Reply #119 on: May 25, 2004, 04:15:08 PM »

DR MattH, it's good to see you up and posting regularly again.

You were missed!
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